I am so angry!! (YAWT)

Unkempt1

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I am the manager of a locally owned cell phone shop. I take care of all of the day to day operations at the store such as scheduling, payroll, inventory management...you get the idea.

One of my employees is the brother-in-law of the store owner. The store owner is a great guy. His brother-in-law (from this point forward referred to as "The Hooligan") is an almost complete waste of flesh. He just turned 18 and is perhaps the least responsible person I know. He already has two children, was kicked out of high school in the middle of his 9th grade year, and is generally ignorant and abrasive when it comes to dealing with customers.

The Hooligan shows up late to work almost every single day. I would say that over the last six months or so, he has been an average of 20 minutes late every day. There have been several days where he has been more than an hour late. When he does show up to work, he is so disinterested in doing his job that customers will often leave in disgust after having spoken with him. On one memorable day, he got into a rather heated argument with a couple of women (not sure how they started arguing, but I know it was The Hooligan's fault), and as they were walking out the door, he actually yelled at them "you fat dykes!"

After hearing that, I promptly fired him, and sent him home. He didn't seem to understand what he had done wrong, and was quite mad. I had the next two days off. When I returned to work, I was greeted by The Hooligan. It seems as though the owner of the store had hired him back. I guess that the owner's wife, sister of The Hooligan, rose hell over me firing him...

Every Sunday it is just myself and The Hooligan scheduled to work at the store. Every once in a while he will give me a call on Sunday morning asking if I can give him a ride to work, since I pass by his house. I normally don't mind, since at least this means that he will be at work on time. Even though he is horrible with customers, it is nice to have another warm body to answer the phone.

This morning he calls, but I don't answer the phone since I am in the shower. I call him back, asking if he needs a ride to work. His reply - "arghhh...I am so hung-over. I can't even stand up. I feel like sh!t. I may not make it in today." I told him that this is not really an option, and that he should drink as much water as he can stand, take a few ibuprofen, and show at least a sliver of responsibility by showing up to work. He tells me that he will try.

I open the store at noon, expecting him to be at least a few minutes late. 1 pm rolls around, still no sign of The Hooligan. By this time I have had several customers walk out, costing myself and the store money, simply because I could not get to them in a timely manner. I sent The Hooligan a text message asking if he was almost here, and he tells me that he may not come in because he "is sick." I replied that being hung over is not the same as truly being sick, and that he had better hurry up and get here. Then, the little punk, apparently forgetting that I had already spoken with him earlier in the day tries to tell me that he is not hung-over, but that he is "just sick, can't stop puking."

Amazed at hearing this, I reminded him that I had spoken with him several hours earlier at which time he told me that he was indeed hung-over. His response to that was simply "oh."

So, I am stuck picking up the slack whenever he does not show up. It is frustrating as hell. I would love to fire him again, but I know he would just be hired back. I have talked to the owner about it, and he knows that The Hooligan is costing him money, but he just won't allow me to fire him. Still looks like his wife has him by the short and curlies. If it wasn't for the fact that I am being paid reasonably well, and that when several more stores are opened later this year I will be paid even better, I would leave this job in a hearbeat. The only comforting thought is that when more stores are open, I can get away from The Hooligan, and staff the stores with employees of my own choosing.

Cliff Notes:

I am the manager of a cell phone shop
One of my employees is the brother-in-law of the owner
This employee sucks at everything related to working at this store
I fired him once, for calling two women "fat dykes" - he was hired back the next day
Currently over 3 hours late to work today - still can't fire him
Owner of the store is quite whipped by his wife - sister of The Hooligan
I am paid reasonably well, so I don't want to quit

:|

I just don't know what to do about this situation...
 

TwinkleToes77

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man that sucks.

Maybe you can find a job elsewhere and quit and leave the owner deal with his family problems?
 

HappyPuppy

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Just think, when you get promoted to general manager the hooligan will no doubt be promoted to manager of your present store. Have fun. :D
 

Unkempt1

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Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Just think, when you get promoted to general manager the hooligan will no doubt be promoted to manager of your present store. Have fun. :D


:shudder:

I don't even want to think about what would happen then. However, I am afraid that this is exactly what will happen when more stores are opened.
 

Don't fire him, just ask him not to come in whenever you can...come up with an excuse of "we are overstaffed" or "slow business day."
 

Unkempt1

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Originally posted by: flashbacck
have you talked to the owner?


Yes, he is well aware of the situation. However, since this is his wife's brother, he simply will not fire him. When I fired him, the owner's wife apparently went ballistic and insisted that her brother be hired back.
 

sixone

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You don't have any good choices, IMHO. You can quit, or try to deal with it.

If things are going to get better in the near future (when you have another store), try to stick with it until then. Don't let him ruin a good job for you.

In the meantime, you're going to lose business whether he's in the store or not. Can you give him something to do in the storeroom, or away from customers? If not, why not send him home early? Tell him he'll be on the clock, so no one gets angry about it, and just do the best you can. Just tell your customers your help called in sick, most people will be understanding. Those who aren't would probably cause other problems anyway.

Maybe you could convince your boss that he'd make more money by providing you additional help, while keeping this bozo on the payroll (to keep his wife happy), but out of the store.
 

Lonyo

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Wait until he offends customers, then "persuade" them to take some action against him, like a formal complaint, or if it's serious ask them to do something else.

Try and get evidence that the wife cannot argue against for him being sacked, and get the customers there, and make them ask for the owner :)
 

Originally posted by: Lonyo
Wait until he offends customers, then "persuade" them to take some action against him, like a formal complaint, or if it's serious ask them to do something else.

Try and get evidence that the wife cannot argue against for him being sacked, and get the customers there, and make them ask for the owner :)

I like this idea.
 

PowerMac4Ever

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Originally posted by: FallenHero
Don't fire him, just ask him not to come in whenever you can...come up with an excuse of "we are overstaffed" or "slow business day."
I take it you didn't read everything.
 

Unkempt1

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Wait until he offends customers, then "persuade" them to take some action against him, like a formal complaint, or if it's serious ask them to do something else.

Try and get evidence that the wife cannot argue against for him being sacked, and get the customers there, and make them ask for the owner :)


I don't know if that would help. The owner of the store has been here several times when The Hooligan royally screwed things up. I can't count the number of times that we have yelled at The Hooligan for quoting incorrect prices, or for ringing things up in such a way that ended up costing the store money.

However, I do like the idea of sending him home early as often as possible, or just hiring someone else and keeping The Hooligan on payroll. With another competent employee, we could still afford to pay The Hooligan, the new employee, and still make more than we do now. But it would still be so much easier if I could just fire him.
 

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Don't fire him, just ask him not to come in whenever you can...come up with an excuse of "we are overstaffed" or "slow business day."
I take it you didn't read everything.

You are a fvckin moron. Perhaps you missed the "whenever you can" part.
 

Originally posted by: Unkempt1
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Wait until he offends customers, then "persuade" them to take some action against him, like a formal complaint, or if it's serious ask them to do something else.

Try and get evidence that the wife cannot argue against for him being sacked, and get the customers there, and make them ask for the owner :)


I don't know if that would help. The owner of the store has been here several times when The Hooligan royally screwed things up. I can't count the number of times that we have yelled at The Hooligan for quoting incorrect prices, or for ringing things up in such a way that ended up costing the store money.

However, I do like the idea of sending him home early as often as possible, or just hiring someone else and keeping The Hooligan on payroll. With another competent employee, we could still afford to pay The Hooligan, the new employee, and still make more than we do now. But it would still be so much easier if I could just fire him.

Hey, the wife can't control how much he works, just whether or not he is employed. Finding ways around it seems to be your best option.
 

Ladies Man

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here's an idea


Take him to a bar..... get him drunk.... have a hooker waiting there for him....
take pictures of them doing stuff.... show to his wife.... she gets rid of him which means you get to get rid of him!

easy as warm apple pie :)
 

sixone

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My money says the wife only cares that he has an income, so that he doesn't come live with her. Don't try to get the boss to choose between the wife and the store, you'll lose that fight. If you can sell the boss on the idea of making more money by hiring another employee to do the work, while keeping the Hooligan on the payroll, but away from anything important, then you'll have it made.

Do you have access to sales records? If you can show the boss that the store made more money on the days the Hooligan wasn't "working", and that he'll make enough more to justify another employee, he'll probably do what you want.
 

PowerMac4Ever

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Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Don't fire him, just ask him not to come in whenever you can...come up with an excuse of "we are overstaffed" or "slow business day."
I take it you didn't read everything.

You are a fvckin moron. Perhaps you missed the "whenever you can" part.
Cry about it
 

Rapidskies

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How about you talk to the owner about hiring another person at your store. Schedule the new person to work when the Hooligan is suppose to and let the Hooligan do whatever he wants (preferably not show up). Eventually the owner will hopefully grow a pair and realize that the Hooligan is costing him money, or he will put up with it as it is cheaper than alimony. :)
 

Nocturnal

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Can't you find someone else to hire? Just try to put him on schedule for say one day a week? lol. I'd truly try to speak to his brother-in-law (owner of company) about him.