I am REALLY digging my new Ubuntu 9.04 setup

Alienwho

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I've been jealous of my friends mac's and the cool VMWare Fusion seamless integration for the past year or so.

I also stopped pretty much all use of *nix environments about 6 months ago when I switched jobs from a system administration position to at a unix heavy company to a developer position at a microsoft heavy company.

So I decided in preparation for my Masters courses I have coming this fall in computer security and for the sake of retaining all that which I have learned, it was time for me to immerse myself in Linux as much as I can (which unfortunately is not possible at work), but I can get my home desktop and laptop. The latest release of Ubuntu 9.04 was a great opportunity for that.

I jumped in and installed it on my desktop. Very quick and easy install. Automatically detected my wireless USB and all wireless networks in range. Immediately the nvidia drivers popup notified me to install the drivers for all the eye candy. 1 minute of downloading later followed by a 24 second reboot and I was in full dual monitor bliss with all the compiz/cube eye candy I could muster.

I then installed the following, ubuntu-restricted-extras, gnome do, ubuntu tweak, compizconfig settings manager, dropbox, samba/sharing. Then I stumbled across an article that talked about Virtualbox's ability for SEAMLESS INTEGRATION, just like VMWare Fusion. I had no idea they had this going on. Last time I used virtualbox was years ago and I was less than impressed. I decided to install virtualbox and Windows XP. About 15 minutes later it was all up and running and I am still in shock at how awesome this is. It just WORKS. I have microsoft office and the other few windows only apps installed on there and it just is seamless right on top of my ubuntu, fully integrated. There are a few hiccups now and then where windows and ubuntu seem to engage in taskbar wars, but it's nothing major.

I also found what really seems to work for me is to simply maximize the windows machine on a separate cube desktop. It automatically switches resolution on the fly to match how the window is. Running Remote Desktop inside the virtualbox is just as fast as running it beforehand.

Also, I immediately performed the same setup on my laptop after it all worked so well on my desktop. I simply exported my Windows XP virtualbox config, copied it over to my laptop, imported it, and it worked flawlessly. I didn't expect it to work as well and easy as vmware, but it worked great.

All in all it works wonderfully and looks absolutely beautiful. I am very impressed and very pleased with this setup and I don't see myself installing windows as a host anytime soon.
 

VinDSL

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Excellent!!!

I've been playing with VirtualBox the last (ahem) week, and due to this post, I now have Win2K Pro, openBSD, and openSUSE running in VM(s) under Ubuntu 9.04 - and all thanks to you!

You (and them) have created a monster! :D
 

tontod

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I was going to install CentOS and install VMWare server/ESXi, but may go with VirtualBox instead. Checked out their screenshots, looks pretty cool and easy to use. Whats cool is that it supports OSX in beta, hopefully they'll have a final version soon, would be cool to give OSX a shot at some point.
 

MedicBob

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I have been using Virtual Box for about 6 months now. I definitely like the product. It is pretty easy to set up and maintain.
 

VinDSL

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I *suppose* it goes without saying (for anybody running it) but...

The VirtualBox package was developed, and is maintained, by Sun Microsystems, so it's a class act! ;)
 

Chiefcrowe

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Very nice indeed?

so just curious - what are the specs of the system and how is the performance of both ubuntu and the VM that you're running on it?
 

Bateluer

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Originally posted by: soccerballtux
How does it handle games?

If the games are 3D in almost anyway, you can probably forget about it. VirtualBox does support 3D acceleration, but I didn't get a chance to test this. I image 2D games, such as Starcraft or Age of Empires 2 would probably work alright.

Unfortunately, the OSE version of VirtualBox does not support USB devices beyond a keyboard and mouse. This negated my use for it, as I wanted to use my Garmin Forerunner under the XP Virtual as Linux support for the Forerunners is a complete crapshoot.
 

SickBeast

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Surprisingly L4D runs quite well under Wine in Ubuntu. I was shocked to see it running at a decent speed on my 8800GTS with all settings enabled.
 

XBoxLPU

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I am sorry but if you want to really want to learn *Nix than you don't want to install Ubuntu. Try Arch or even Slackware
 

pcslookout

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Surprisingly L4D runs quite well under Wine in Ubuntu. I was shocked to see it running at a decent speed on my 8800GTS with all settings enabled.

What about other games like Bioshock ?
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Surprisingly L4D runs quite well under Wine in Ubuntu. I was shocked to see it running at a decent speed on my 8800GTS with all settings enabled.

What about other games like Bioshock ?

Last I tried, its extremely hit or miss with most games, and it usually simply doesnt run as fast if it does at all.

Virtualization or WINE is great for desktop apps, but its a long way to go for gaming.

Dual-booting is quite a viable option though.
 

KeypoX

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Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Surprisingly L4D runs quite well under Wine in Ubuntu. I was shocked to see it running at a decent speed on my 8800GTS with all settings enabled.

What about other games like Bioshock ?

LOL isnt l4d based on a 5 year old HL 2 engine?
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Surprisingly L4D runs quite well under Wine in Ubuntu. I was shocked to see it running at a decent speed on my 8800GTS with all settings enabled.

What about other games like Bioshock ?

Last I tried, its extremely hit or miss with most games, and it usually simply doesnt run as fast if it does at all.

Virtualization or WINE is great for desktop apps, but its a long way to go for gaming.

Dual-booting is quite a viable option though.
Yeah I read somewhere that all the Source-based games will run amazing through Wine.

In fact on the Wine website I'm pretty sure it gives you a red/yellow/green light for compatibility for just about any app or game.
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: KeypoX
Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Surprisingly L4D runs quite well under Wine in Ubuntu. I was shocked to see it running at a decent speed on my 8800GTS with all settings enabled.

What about other games like Bioshock ?

LOL isnt l4d based on a 5 year old HL 2 engine?

Maybe but the graphics really don't look dated to me. They look about as good as COD4 to me, maybe even a bit better.

With all of the stuff that happens on screen, I don't think you would want a more modern engine running the game.

There are other modern games that run well under Wine. Rain on the parade all you want.
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: XBoxLPU
I am sorry but if you want to really want to learn *Nix than you don't want to install Ubuntu. Try Arch or even Slackware

That would kill a new user. They would run from Linux and never come back. IMO Ubuntu is the best way for new users to get into Linux.
 

XBoxLPU

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: XBoxLPU
I am sorry but if you want to really want to learn *Nix than you don't want to install Ubuntu. Try Arch or even Slackware

That would kill a new user. They would run from Linux and never come back. IMO Ubuntu is the best way for new users to get into Linux.

Arch ISN'T that hard to setup and you have a lighter more lean machine that you have full control over from scratch.
 

VinDSL

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Originally posted by: Chiefcrowe
Very nice indeed?

so just curious - what are the specs of the system and how is the performance of both ubuntu and the VM that you're running on it?
Hrm...

Not sure if you were asking me (your post was immediately below mine), but if you were:

You can see the specs by clicking "Vin's System Rig" in my sig.

Basically, it's an OC'ed P4 Extreme Edition machine - light on RAM - but all top-of-the-line components circa 2004. Hardly SOTA... :D

I can't sense any degradation or lagginess with 'Jaunty'.

OpenSUSE seems normal - although it balked at having less than 1GB RAM available during the install. I clicked-through the warning, and the install went just fine!

I don't have enough experience with BSD to tell a difference.

Win2K Pro SP4 actually seems to run faster in a VM! :thumbsup: