I am having fun with Unreal II

[DirtylilTechBoy]

I have heard a lot of noise about how Unreal II wasn't any good and that it was only 10 hours of gameplay. Who cares! I love this game, and I understand that even with only 10 hours of gameplay, thats still just $4 per hour for a lot of fun. Instead of thinking of all of the bad things, I am thinking of what makes this game fun, and it helps out alot.

I am on the living planet right now.

 

[ICEVaPa]

In some sense, i agree with you, however,
Would it not be MORE fun if there was MORE
to do, In this day and age it is QUALITY AND
QUANTITY!

Just stating the ovious, no offence meant!

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: ICEVaPa
In some sense, i agree with you, however,
Would it not be MORE fun if there was MORE
to do, In this day and age it is QUALITY AND
QUANTITY!

Just stating the ovious, no offence meant!

I don't think Unreal II could ever live up to the original . . .especially with the HYPE and EXPECTATIONS.

Look at what it DOES have - "next generation" graphics that will be powering many of the game engines coming out over the next couple of years. It also has the Unreal Editor that allows you to make Unreal II mods . . . . . . think we'll see a "return to Na Pali II?"

Some of the game is really "neat" - especially co-operating with (decent) 'bot AI in setting up "defense".

But it IS a FPS . . . it's not Dues Ex . . . that'll be along later this year . . . (same game engine, right?)

I am also looking forward to the newer HDs (10,000 RPM and Serial ATA that should take "care of" the insufferable "load" times) and hardware that will really make this game('s engine) "shine".

But . . . i think it's worth the $35 i paid for it . . .

 

[Mavrick007]

At the very least, you can look forward to an expansion to be put out for the game

Not to mention the many user mods that should show up very soon.

 

[DARRIN]

I think it was an awesome game although I played it in 7 hours.

 

[mrbass]

P.T. Barnum was correct.

 

[ChurchOfSubgenius]

Originally posted by: mrbass
P.T. Barnum was correct.

Meaning?

 

[BoomAM]

Thats the problem, with most games, people dwell on the bad things in the game, and forget about the good things.
Sure, Unreal2 is buggy, unstable, short, easy. But its a dam good game, and not one that i`ll forget in a hurry. IMO its the best FPS out at the moment.

 

[Glitchny]

i dont seem to have any of these long load times i keep eharing about takes maybe 30 secondes at most for anyhting to load in the game with my rig. and i think it has taken 30seconds once.. but somebody imed me and i think that had something to do with it

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Glitchny
i dont seem to have any of these long load times i keep eharing about takes maybe 30 secondes at most for anyhting to load in the game with my rig. and i think it has taken 30seconds once.. but somebody imed me and i think that had something to do with it

I guess I am whining about 30-40 seconds . . .

 

[ROTC1983]

Originally posted by: BoomAM
Thats the problem, with most games, people dwell on the bad things in the game, and forget about the good things.
Sure, Unreal2 is buggy, unstable, short, easy. But its a dam good game, and not one that i`ll forget in a hurry. IMO its the best FPS out at the moment.

ACtually, I believe that Half-Life is still the best out there. I wish they would have added multiplayer to Unreal 2. Base D with turrets and those laser walls would have been cool

 

[BoomAM]

Ive gota admit, i dont seem to have these long load times that people moan about, my load times are roughly 10-15seconds, about the same as most of my games.

 

[nitrousninja]

Mine are about 15 seconds long. Right now I'm going through again using invisiblility to get cool screenshots and stuff. I can't get the "all weapons" cheat to work though. I'd like to go through the game with the "Singularity Cannon" which is the greatest weapon ever!

 

[dem0nic]

Half life is the best FPS out there period..

The only thing i can remember of Unreal2 that stands out for being dull, is the defend missions.

1) Defend your position with the marines, until you get picked up.
2) Defend your position with turrents until Isaak fixes the ship
3) Defend until the scientist fixes radio

Not forgetting... some babysitting missions..

oh, and rinse and repeat daily

It seems this is all Unreal 2 is...

Also, the game is far to linear.. this is the easiest game i have played to date.

Not forgetting this game is buggier than h3ll.. and performance was was poor on 256mb.

Worth the $40.. or the £30 I paid for ??? Definately not.. With the ending, I don't even want to play this again..

Not even, when i get a better graphics card, to play on 1600x1200 with everything on..

For a real game, with better graphics and hopefully far, far longer... Deus Ex 2

 

[BoomAM]

Agreed, DeusEx 2 will rule. But a new GFX card aint gonna make that much of a difference. Unreal2, and most unreal baced games are CPU limited, not GFX limited.
Unreal2 isnt that bad. IMO, its a gem of a game.
And HL, although good, has been surpassed by several games already. MOHAA, NOLF2, and again, IMO Unreal2

 

[Lonyo]

Deus Ex probably won't be all that long, but there will be so many ways to complete it it will last and provide more than one go through, hopefully.
You can go through it all the way without firing a single shot, there are all the nanite technologies, it'll be one hell of a game.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: BoomAM
Ive gota admit, i dont seem to have these long load times that people moan about, my load times are roughly 10-15seconds, about the same as most of my games.

I have a "feeling" my long load times are related to my O/S - Win2K - Win98SE seemed much faster (but then I only have384MB RAM).

ANd IF you have the same (unreal) expectations for Deus Ex, you are going to be disappointed (also). Deus Ex II won't have "better" graphics - it's the same game engine. And I am looking forward to Thief III . . .



I am taking my time with the game (playing AvPII, also . . . now that is a "game" for $5) . . . and enjoying the "scenery" (yep, the "defensive" parts of the game is "best" . . . I am looking forward to the MODS for this game !!!)

 

[BoomAM]

"ANd IF you have the same (unreal) expectations for Deus Ex, you are going to be disappointed (also). Deus Ex II won't have "better" graphics - it's the same game engine. And I am looking forward to Thief III . . . "

apoppin, i dont expect the same form DeusEx2, They are entirely different games, played in different styles.

And just because its baced on the same engine, doesnt mean that the graphics wont be better or worse.
Using your logic, Unreal2 doesnt look any better than Unreal1. Technically, they use the same engine at the core, just Unreal2s has be updated more.
Unreal2&UT2003 use the same engine, but Unreal2s visuals are slightly better.
Have you even read the Warren Spector interview, or even seen the new screenshots.
DeusEx2, Looks far better than Unreal2, in all areas, and almost as good a Doom3.
Warren said, that although DeusEx2 uses a Unreal engine, its been modified so much for the needs of DeusEx2, that its graphical performance is hard to benchmark on todays machines using any other Unreal baced game.
What about splinter cell as well, that uses a unreal engine, but looks better than alot of other Unreal baced games that are out.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: BoomAM
"ANd IF you have the same (unreal) expectations for Deus Ex, you are going to be disappointed (also). Deus Ex II won't have "better" graphics - it's the same game engine. And I am looking forward to Thief III . . . "

apoppin, i dont expect the same form DeusEx2, They are entirely different games, played in different styles.

And just because its baced on the same engine, doesnt mean that the graphics wont be better or worse.
Using your logic, Unreal2 doesnt look any better than Unreal1. Technically, they use the same engine at the core, just Unreal2s has be updated more.
Unreal2&UT2003 use the same engine, but Unreal2s visuals are slightly better.
Have you even read the Warren Spector interview, or even seen the new screenshots.
DeusEx2, Looks far better than Unreal2, in all areas, and almost as good a Doom3.
Warren said, that although DeusEx2 uses a Unreal engine, its been modified so much for the needs of DeusEx2, that its graphical performance is hard to benchmark on todays machines using any other Unreal baced game.
What about splinter cell as well, that uses a unreal engine, but looks better than alot of other Unreal baced games that are out.

Being based on the UnrealWarfare engine, Deus Ex II and Unreal II will look pretty similar . . . I am going to guess that DEII will look slightly "worse" than U2 (MY opinion - we'll see).

And IF you expect DEII to be the "be all, end all" of gaming you WILL be disappointed (yes, I have read EVERYTHING I could find on DEII, also). Some people stated they expected to be "blown away" by U2 . . . And your ridiculous "comparison" of U1 to U2 is YOURS, not mine.

 

[Lonyo]

Look at the differences between Unreal/Unreal Tournament and Deus Ex, the 3 games use same engine base and have quite different looks, same will most probably be true of UT 2k3, Unreal 2 and Deus Ex, all three use same engine base, but will all have their own distincations and modifications.

 

[BoomAM]

you obviously havnt seen the very latest screenshots of dx2 have you. How you can say that unreal2 will look better is beyond me.
I dont expect dx2 is be the "be all and end all of gaming", all im saying is that it`ll be a phenominal game when its released. no game is everything to everyone.
and im not the one comparing u2 to u2. using your logic, that cos its baced on the same engine, it wont look any better.
Look at the (few & rare)screenshots on DNF, it looks far better than UT, but is baced on the same code. Just cos DX2 was originally baced on the UWarfare engine, doesnt mean that it`ll have the same graphical quality as other games baced on the engine. ion storm have made very drastic alterations to the engine, so much so that i could be classed as an entirely new engine.

 

[BoomAM]

Originally posted by: Lonyo
Look at the differences between Unreal/Unreal Tournament and Deus Ex, the 3 games use same engine base and have quite different looks, same will most probably be true of UT 2k3, Unreal 2 and Deus Ex, all three use same engine base, but will all have their own distincations and modifications.

Thank you. Thats what ive been saying. but apoppin wont have it.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: BoomAM

Originally posted by: Lonyo
Look at the differences between Unreal/Unreal Tournament and Deus Ex, the 3 games use same engine base and have quite different looks, same will most probably be true of UT 2k3, Unreal 2 and Deus Ex, all three use same engine base, but will all have their own distincations and modifications.

Thank you. Thats what ive been saying. but apoppin wont have it.

I really don't think you "get" what I am saying.

My "whole" point was that IF you have EXTREME expectations for ANY game, you are almost "guaranteed" disappointment.
(argue with "that", if you want . . . I am done defending my "opinion")

And . . .

Deus Ex II won't look "much better" than Unreal II (you decide what "much better" means)

 

[elkinm]

Just wondering as a comparison, how would you compare Unreal II to Unreal I and U Mission pack 1, or to Half Life and lets say Half Life Blue Shift. Blue shift felt short to me, so did the mission pack but the mission pack was better. Half life was quite long, so long that I could not track back the events of the game, and almost the same with Unreal.

How does Unreal II compare among these 4. Do the briefings make it seem shorer as I belive the logs from Unreal Mission Pack took some of the excitement from the game as you didn't have that struggle for your life, no time for a break feeling which makes it more realistic and exciting and seems forever to finish as it is all one mission like in HL and Unreal.

 

[BoomAM]

IMO unreal2 is better than all 4.
Its not the sort of game where you forget what youve done in the game, it memorable.
Also, in your quarters, theres "holiday" photos of the missions that you`ve been on.
The atlantis interlude parts, between the missions, are great, theres things to do, people to talk to.
It helps break up the game, in a good way though. It give you a breather to relax a bit between missions.