I am having difficulty keeping track of all the Apple suits

[Mopetar]

Nice red herring. As mentioned, Sony gets a royalty for the blue laser design, not the "box with a tray" design. And that, in a nutshell hilights the difference between a valid patent (specific laser design) and a generic design feature (box; rectangle with rounded edges, etc.).

It's like you've never heard of a design patent, which covers the ornamental design of an object. They've been around for well over a century and that most countries have patents or other laws of this type. They are valid patents regardless of what armchair lawyers on online forums may say or believe.

Most people also have a terrible misunderstanding of design patents or attempt to make gross simplifications (e.g. "They're just trying to patent round corners.") in order to somehow dismiss the issue. If people can't even be bothered to understand how design patents work or just refuse to accept that their legal existence is valid, it's impossible to have a meaningful conversation. And then whenever a court ruling goes against Samsung, they work themselves up into a froth and start calling the judge an idiot or obviously on the take.

 

[Mopetar]

It really seems like they're just taking one step forward and two steps back with their patent trolling . . .

The only difference between apple and other companies that get shut down for patent trolling . . .

Sorry to be pedantic, but patent trolling is generally a label reserved for non-practicing companies that horde patents to use as litigation against companies that actually make a product. As Apple actually makes a product, they don't fit the definition.

Patent bully would probably be a better term to describe their actions.

 

[Phynaz]

It's like you've never heard of a design patent, which covers the ornamental design of an object. They've been around for well over a century and that most countries have patents or other laws of this type. They are valid patents regardless of what armchair lawyers on online forums may say or believe.

Most people also have a terrible misunderstanding of design patents or attempt to make gross simplifications (e.g. "They're just trying to patent round corners.") in order to somehow dismiss the issue. If people can't even be bothered to understand how design patents work or just refuse to accept that their legal existence is valid, it's impossible to have a meaningful conversation. And then whenever a court ruling goes against Samsung, they work themselves up into a froth and start calling the judge an idiot or obviously on the take.

Here's the factual post I was talking about :biggrin:

Let's see what happens now.

 

[corkyg]

I see it as a dedicated product line in Apple's overall business plan. It probably has its own P&L report.

 

[Dari]

Do you do such diligent research on every company you buy a product from? Your moral compass seems a bit off or persuaded by your own likes. You just sound silly with these types of statements man.

For example, do yourself a favor then and throw away all your clothes that are manufactured from a company based in a country with human rights violations. You should be typing your response naked.

Get over yourself already.

Yes, I do my research. And Samsung is a terrible company. Koreans are proud of Samsung but also wary of the power it holds in their little country.

 

[pm]

Ok, I very rarely do this, but I'm going to pull the plug on this thread on the basis that we have enough legal threads, and I don't see this discussion as being productive. You are welcome as always to send me a Private Message with comments.

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