It is called Overseas Citizenship of India, and yes it is completely legal.
It does not give you the same rights as a full Indian Citizen. However, it reduces the hassles of going to India.
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I am going to india next week.. its an emergency trip
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It is called Overseas Citizenship of India, and yes it is completely legal.
It does not give you the same rights as a full Indian Citizen. However, it reduces the hassles of going to India.
You are the dumbest person I've ever encountered on ATOT, and that's saying a lot. Mugs posted something from the USA. I asked what that had to do with anything because the US does NOT prohibit Dual Citizenship. I never said a goddamn word about India. Can you fvcking read, or do you need to go back to India so you can be more comfortable? Perhaps you should learn English before posting anymore here.
The Stigenator
Lifer
you're telling me.. damn the last time i got to 'dum dum' it was really 'dumb dumb'.. that was in 1998.. hope its better now.
the domestic airport is so much better than the intl one which doesnt even have a proper terminal.
Legendary
Diamond Member
Same thing for me. Got to love the uncles with hookups.
Regarding the OP, call the Indian consulate to find out exactly what the situation is with the passports. That's the only way to get a real answer. Otherwise, you should be fine with the Vonage. Unlocking your phone can be found online (IIRC Cingular won't let you do it for free, but that might've changed) For survival materials, don't forget to only buy bottled water obviously, and remember that on international flights, booze is free 🙂
I haven't forgotten anything. You just can't admit you were wrong. Mugs posted something about the US, and I said it was irrelevant because the US doesn't prohibit dual citizenship. It had nothing to do with India, and I never mentioned India, so I'm not sure why you stuck your nose in and ran your c0cksucker. You are the absolute most idiotic person that I have ever met. I can only assume that you haven't yet evolved past the state of Mongoloid.
AznAnarchy99
Lifer
I agree with Mill, what the hell are u talking about?
AmphibSailor
Golden Member
Interesting thread. I had heard that the US does not recognize Dual Citizenship, also... But, I found the following...(I haven't verified its authenticity, though).
Dual Citizenship and the US.
[/quote] But I thought US law didn't permit one to be a dual citizen -- that if you were (by birth or otherwise), you either had to give up the other citizenship when you came of age, or else you'd lose your US status. And that if you became a citizen of another country, you'd automatically lose your US citizenship. So what's all this talk about dual citizenship?
It indeed used to be the case in the US that you couldn't hold dual citizenship (except in certain cases if you had dual citizenship from birth or childhood, in which case some Supreme Court rulings -- Perkins v. Elg (1939), Mandoli v. Acheson (1952), and Kawakita v. U.S. (1952) -- permitted you to keep both). However, most of the laws forbidding dual citizenship were struck down by the US Supreme Court in two cases: a 1967 decision, Afroyim v. Rusk, as well as a second ruling in 1980, Vance v. Terrazas.
Rules against dual citizenship still apply to some extent -- at least in theory -- to people who wish to become US citizens via naturalization. The Supreme Court chose to leave in place the requirement that new citizens must renounce their old citizenship during US naturalization. However, in practice, the State Department is no longer doing anything in the vast majority of situations where a new citizen's "old country" refuses to recognize the US renunciation and continues to consider the person's original citizenship to be in effect.
The official US State Department policy on dual citizenship today is that the United States does not favor it as a matter of policy because of various problems they feel it may cause, but the existence of dual citizenship is recognized (i.e., accepted) as a fact of life. That is, if you ask them if you ought to become a dual citizen, they will recommend against doing it; but if you tell them you are a dual citizen, they'll almost always say it's OK. [/quote]
Also, this:
[/quote] It depends on exactly what is meant by "recognizing" dual citizenship. If the official meant to say that dual US/other citizenship violates US law, he was, simply put, wrong. If he meant that foreign citizenship makes no difference under US law if one is also a US citizen, he was right.
US citizenship law is primarily concerned with whether or not a given person holds US citizenship. If a person is a US citizen and is currently within the jurisdiction of the US, any other citizenship(s) he or she may hold are really not relevant in US law.
A "dual citizen" has no special status in the US by virtue of holding citizenship in some other country too. In particular, if you are a dual citizen and get into some kind of legal trouble while in the US, you should not expect the US to acknowledge any efforts by consular officials of your other country of citizenship to intervene in your behalf.
Also, when a "dual citizen" enters the US, he/she is expected to identify himself to US immigration and customs officials as a US citizen (not as a citizen of some other country) -- and in cases where a passport is required to enter the US, a dual US/other citizen is expected to enter on a US passport, just like any other US citizen.
I've heard of recent cases where dual US/other citizens briefly got into sticky situations while entering the US, when they attempted to identify themselves either as "dual" citizens or as citizens of another country. In former times (before the latest round of State Department policy reforms), attempting to enter the US on a foreign passport could even be used as "evidence" of intent to relinquish US citizenship. Although this apparently isn't a danger any more, the best thing to do is probably to make life simple and assert only your US citizenship rights when entering the US.
Remember that US immigration officers are primarily interested in determining whether a person wishing to enter the US should be let in. If you hold US citizenship, then you have a legal right to enter, remain in, and work in the US. Holding some other citizenship as well as US citizenship is completely irrelevant in this case, and if you make an issue of holding a second citizenship, you're just making it more likely that US officials will think something is amiss. [/quote]
Talk about a thread hijack....
Hope you get your issues worked out in India.
Dual Citizenship and the US.
[/quote] But I thought US law didn't permit one to be a dual citizen -- that if you were (by birth or otherwise), you either had to give up the other citizenship when you came of age, or else you'd lose your US status. And that if you became a citizen of another country, you'd automatically lose your US citizenship. So what's all this talk about dual citizenship?
It indeed used to be the case in the US that you couldn't hold dual citizenship (except in certain cases if you had dual citizenship from birth or childhood, in which case some Supreme Court rulings -- Perkins v. Elg (1939), Mandoli v. Acheson (1952), and Kawakita v. U.S. (1952) -- permitted you to keep both). However, most of the laws forbidding dual citizenship were struck down by the US Supreme Court in two cases: a 1967 decision, Afroyim v. Rusk, as well as a second ruling in 1980, Vance v. Terrazas.
Rules against dual citizenship still apply to some extent -- at least in theory -- to people who wish to become US citizens via naturalization. The Supreme Court chose to leave in place the requirement that new citizens must renounce their old citizenship during US naturalization. However, in practice, the State Department is no longer doing anything in the vast majority of situations where a new citizen's "old country" refuses to recognize the US renunciation and continues to consider the person's original citizenship to be in effect.
The official US State Department policy on dual citizenship today is that the United States does not favor it as a matter of policy because of various problems they feel it may cause, but the existence of dual citizenship is recognized (i.e., accepted) as a fact of life. That is, if you ask them if you ought to become a dual citizen, they will recommend against doing it; but if you tell them you are a dual citizen, they'll almost always say it's OK. [/quote]
Also, this:
[/quote] It depends on exactly what is meant by "recognizing" dual citizenship. If the official meant to say that dual US/other citizenship violates US law, he was, simply put, wrong. If he meant that foreign citizenship makes no difference under US law if one is also a US citizen, he was right.
US citizenship law is primarily concerned with whether or not a given person holds US citizenship. If a person is a US citizen and is currently within the jurisdiction of the US, any other citizenship(s) he or she may hold are really not relevant in US law.
A "dual citizen" has no special status in the US by virtue of holding citizenship in some other country too. In particular, if you are a dual citizen and get into some kind of legal trouble while in the US, you should not expect the US to acknowledge any efforts by consular officials of your other country of citizenship to intervene in your behalf.
Also, when a "dual citizen" enters the US, he/she is expected to identify himself to US immigration and customs officials as a US citizen (not as a citizen of some other country) -- and in cases where a passport is required to enter the US, a dual US/other citizen is expected to enter on a US passport, just like any other US citizen.
I've heard of recent cases where dual US/other citizens briefly got into sticky situations while entering the US, when they attempted to identify themselves either as "dual" citizens or as citizens of another country. In former times (before the latest round of State Department policy reforms), attempting to enter the US on a foreign passport could even be used as "evidence" of intent to relinquish US citizenship. Although this apparently isn't a danger any more, the best thing to do is probably to make life simple and assert only your US citizenship rights when entering the US.
Remember that US immigration officers are primarily interested in determining whether a person wishing to enter the US should be let in. If you hold US citizenship, then you have a legal right to enter, remain in, and work in the US. Holding some other citizenship as well as US citizenship is completely irrelevant in this case, and if you make an issue of holding a second citizenship, you're just making it more likely that US officials will think something is amiss. [/quote]
Talk about a thread hijack....
Hope you get your issues worked out in India.
Vonkhan
Diamond Member
Calcutta's changed a lot since '98 ... new flyovers, malls, etc. - actually a nice place to live in. Pollution's still a b!tch tho.
I dont know what to say about the water situation. I've been in the US for the last 10 years and when I go back to India, I drink water at road side stalls, tube wells, temple matkas - basically whenever I'm thirsty and never had any problems.
I dont know what to say about the water situation. I've been in the US for the last 10 years and when I go back to India, I drink water at road side stalls, tube wells, temple matkas - basically whenever I'm thirsty and never had any problems.
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