I am going to get an iPad

[Oyeve]

No, it's not sarcasm.

My hate for Apple is more sarcasm. I own and owned many Apple products.

But... they still suck because they don't make the iPad I want and their computers are all sorts of inferior and their iPod Touch is a extraneous device. That's the extent of my hate. Oh and Steve Jobs is still a d-bag.

I feel the same...

 

[MJinZ]

Misleading thread title...

Title: I am going to get an iPad
Post: Three reasons why I'm not going to get an iPad.

What's the point of this thread?

Your skills of inference are shockingly poor.

The "If and/or when the three deficiencies are rectified" is implied.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Sure.

 

[Pliablemoose]

I think the 7" Samsung Galaxy Tab is just right for you, amazon UK has it for $937.24 unsubsidized. They dropped the price from $1249.66. :biggrin:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Gala...4976596&sr=8-2

 

[AstroManLuca]

Misleading thread title...

Title: I am going to get an iPad
Post: Three reasons why I'm not going to get an iPad.

What's the point of this thread?

MJinZ is a troll.

 

[KLin]

I'm sure Apple is devastated that you won't be buying an iPad if those 3 features aren't added.

 

[MrX8503]

I don't understand why people hate companies or can't stand to let people be happy with what they buy. The CEOs don't steal your money or run your dog over. There's more things to be concerned about.

If you don't like the iPad then buy something else.

 

[MJinZ]

I'm sure Apple is devastated that you won't be buying an iPad if those 3 features aren't added.

Jobs is sobbing himself to sleep you know.

 

[akugami]

You're trying to condone proprietary connectors??? Proprietary connectors do no good for the industry or the consumer, only the company that sells the product that it is on.

Not here to condone multiple connectors but a lot of companies do it. The only reason for companies like Samsung, LG, Sandisc, etc not to include proprietary connectors is because they don't have the leverage to do so. Apple does. Heck, even MS has proprietary connectors for their Zune.

You may not like it but you can't blame them for trying to milk an extra buck out of you because ultimately every business is here to milk a few bucks from the consumers.

I haven't looked cause I don't have, nor do I currently want, an iPad but I'm sure there will be generic (and unlicensed) connectors for it soon enough to allow you to hook up a camera or allow expansion slots.

USB can't do what the Apple Dock Connector does. It's one connection that does multiple things.

It's no more versatile than a regular USB port. I haven't looked because I don't care but it's likely higher speed than a regular USB port for use with add-on devices but nothing USB 3 can't do and USB 3 is at its heart a higher speed USB port. The major differentiator between the Apple connector and the different variants of USB is speed.

Do you know of any USB cable that does video out?

Do a Google search for "USB video card" and report back what you get.

Yes, but Apple also did it because they wanted to consolidate and only wanted to put 1 port on their devices.

Also, if you use the camera connector kit, you can attach USB devices to the iPad.

No. zerocool84 is right. Apple's connector is purely for profit reasons only. Apple could have consolidated the port with a standard USB port. It'll do everything the current Apple connector does. Again, I don't know if the Apple connector is capable of higher speed than USB 2.0 but likely USB 3.0 will even the playing field on the speed front.




I do think the second gen iPad will likely include an integrated camera just like the new iPhones have a front facing camera and the iPod Touch's have a front facing camera.

I do not think there is a snowball's chance in hell that Apple will include a SD (or other memory card) slot on their iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad devices.

 

[Wonderful Pork]

It's no more versatile than a regular USB port. I haven't looked because I don't care but it's likely higher speed than a regular USB port for use with add-on devices but nothing USB 3 can't do and USB 3 is at its heart a higher speed USB port. The major differentiator between the Apple connector and the different variants of USB is speed.

No. zerocool84 is right. Apple's connector is purely for profit reasons only. Apple could have consolidated the port with a standard USB port. It'll do everything the current Apple connector does. Again, I don't know if the Apple connector is capable of higher speed than USB 2.0 but likely USB 3.0 will even the playing field on the speed front.

While I agree Apple could have phased out the dock connector, as it stands, it has 30 pins, and USB only has 4, 2 power & 2 data.

I'm certainly not well versed enough in the full implementation, but it (used to) carry USB, Firewire, audio, video, controls, and whatever else sometimes simultaneously depending on the cables connected to it. It would prove more difficult to just put that through a single USB connector...and we all know Apple won't put more than 1 connector on their devices, hence the adapters for USB and all.

 

[Oyeve]

I don't understand why people hate companies or can't stand to let people be happy with what they buy. The CEOs don't steal your money or run your dog over. There's more things to be concerned about.

If you don't like the iPad then buy something else.

We just hate the "tools".

 

[MrX8503]

Apple could have consolidated the port with a standard USB port. It'll do everything the current Apple connector does. Again, I don't know if the Apple connector is capable of higher speed than USB 2.0 but likely USB 3.0 will even the playing field on the speed front.

The 30pin does more than data and power. I'm not sure how USB could replace that.

 

[akugami]

The 30pin does more than data and power. I'm not sure how USB could replace that.

I'm basing my comments by the available peripherals using the Apple connector. To my knowledge, all of them seem to be within the range of USB 2.0's data throughput capabilities. I mean, probably the most demanding peripherals seem to be video or sound based and there are USB 2.0 devices that provide those functions. When USB 3.0 hits, it should be able to supply almost any needs as far as data output goes.

From a power standpoint, there shouldn't be much of a need to draw any significant power from the iOS based devices. Most of them are portable devices and you really don't want to be sucking juice from a device that is already power limited.

 

[Phynaz]

I'm basing my comments by the available peripherals using the Apple connector. To my knowledge, all of them seem to be within the range of USB 2.0's data throughput capabilities.

Analog line out.
Analog video out.

 

[akugami]

Analog line out.
Analog video out.

There are USB video devices supporting analog video output. Here's one. The overwhelming majority of USB video output devices are going to be digital based but that's because a majority of our monitors out now are digital in nature.

Considering the cost of an iPod/iPhone video out cable is $40, the video output devices which are USB based are right in the neighborhood of about $40 and up and can't be considered expensive (relatively speaking). We'd be able to connect our iPhones using a generic USB device and have add-on devices that are cheaper in cost to produce using USB because they don't have to pay Apple's higher licensing fees.

Keep in mind I own an iPhone 4. I'm not against Apple. I'm just trying to call it as I see it. The Apple connector does have benefits. For one, it at least means that there is a somewhat higher quality standard since an approved device means that there was at least some minimal level of quality testing. But that doesn't guarantee any add-on device that uses the port is bug free. It also doesn't mean that a "generic" standard like USB isn't as functional as the Apple connector in terms of device support and usability. A major negative is of course added cost to consumers.

 

[MrX8503]

So far the 30pin has not inconvenienced me. I can also get the connectors from hong kong. I also like that you can drop it in any dock and forget about it. So the 30pin doesn't bother me.

 

[DivideBYZero]

So far the 30pin has not inconvenienced me. I can also get the connectors from hong kong. I also like that you can drop it in any dock and forget about it. So the 30pin doesn't bother me.

Well there is one thing that's annoying about the Dock Connector; Removing support for the firewire charging pin. This means a whole ton of docks, which by default charge on the firewire set of pins which for years was the default charge pin set, are useless for iPhone and iPod touch. The pin is still there, it's just that the devices won't charge from it, just the USB set. D:

 

[preslove]

So far the 30pin has not inconvenienced me. I can also get the connectors from hong kong. I also like that you can drop it in any dock and forget about it. So the 30pin doesn't bother me.

Nothing is wrong with having a 30pin dock. Leaving out a usb port is the problem. Having both would not have added any bulk to the thing.

Where are you getting these connectors? I can't find anything cheap on ebay.

 

[Deeko]

mjinz will only get an ipad if it can extract fat from the food (especially milk!!) he's going to injest, because everyone knows that consuming dietary fat will kill you at 35. And if you die at 35, the ipad won't be useful to you anymore, rendering the purchase a waste of money.

 

[pm]

The most annoying thing about the iPad and the 30-pin connector is that it charges glacially from anything other than a new Mac or the iPad USB charger. Laptops, desktops, car chargers, etc - they result in a message "not charging" in the corner. In reality it is charging, but super slowly.

And if you die at 35, the ipad won't be useful to you anymore, rendering the purchase a waste of money.

This is wrong. Jobs worked out a deal with heaven. You can take your iPad with you.

 

[quikah]

youporn works on the ipad. good enough for me. I am kind of amazed at the number of websites that have working video.

 

[Bman123]

The Ipad is weak, you overpay thru the nose for that damn thing, better off with a laptop

 

[TheStu]

Just so we are clear, everyone also hates the non-standard USB connectors out there right? Like the one on my camera, or a bunch of different cell phones, I am just glad that most of them seem to be settling on MicroUSB.

 

[pm]

I am just glad that most of them seem to be settling on MicroUSB.

The EU helped with that:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10274953-94.html

 

[DivideBYZero]

The Ipad is weak, you overpay thru the nose for that damn thing, better off with a laptop

So go and buy the Samsung Galaxy Pad then. Hope you have big nostrils.