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I am getting very mad at Windows

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Right now, as I'm burning a CD, Windows Explorer decides to crash. Fine enough, but it wants to keep restarting. I can't reboot yet because my CD is still burning. But, each ****ing moment I have to hit cancel in this "this program has generated errors and a log is being made" box. This is not good at all; I'm getting very mad and am trying to restrain myself from shouting many favorite expletives at Explorer.exe because my parents are home. :disgust:

Perhaps I should accelerate my switch to Linux. 😛
 
Ok, problem fixed via reboot after CD finished, but this has still motivated me to boot into that lonely debian installation that has been sitting unused for a while. I guess that's a good thing, isn't it? 🙂
 
Yeah, explorer.exe is pissing me off too. I have one box with win2k on it, and explorer.exe keeps restarting. If that's not bad enough, when I try to find out what's causing it via event viewer, I find out that the event logs are corrupted :| But such is the way of Windows... :frown:
 
Becareful.....the "windows is really pissing me off" and "getting very mad at windows" slogans are trademarked by MS.

They could sue you, and since you (more than likely) don't have as much money as they do, you will be forced to state such things as "I am getting very mad at Windows because I can't break it" or "Windows is really pissing me off because I can't get a mythical BSOD".

🙂 😀

Let's face it...it has bu.....err lots and lots of "features".
 
JL,

Sorry to hear you are having so many problems with Explorer.

Fortunately I do not have that problem on two boxes. Explorer in ME is perfectly stable and has not crashed. Explorer in XP Pro has not crashed either. IE6 on both systems are also super stable.

Have you checked your hard drive for errors or corrupted files? That could be the cause of all your problems.

Run CHKDSK/R from a DOS window and see if it can find any errors on the drive(s) Using /R will cause CHKDSK to check all the free space on your HD also. So it is a rather thorough check for the HD. If your hard drive is partitioned you will have to run CHKDSK/R on all partitions which is a good idea.

Far as I can tell the /R command appears only in XP and XP Pro. For older systems you can run Scandisk or Norton System Works DiskDoctor. For older Windows you should have NSW 2002. For XP you should have NSW 2003 for best results.

 
Originally posted by: johnlog
JL,

Sorry to hear you are having so many problems with Explorer.

Fortunately I do not have that problem on two boxes. Explorer in ME is perfectly stable and has not crashed. Explorer in XP Pro has not crashed either. IE6 on both systems are also super stable.

Have you checked your hard drive for errors or corrupted files? That could be the cause of all your problems.

Run CHKDSK/R from a DOS window and see if it can find any errors on the drive(s) Using /R will cause CHKDSK to check all the free space on your HD also. So it is a rather thorough check for the HD. If your hard drive is partitioned you will have to run CHKDSK/R on all partitions which is a good idea.

Far as I can tell the /R command appears only in XP and XP Pro. For older systems you can run Scandisk or Norton System Works DiskDoctor. For older Windows you should have NSW 2002. For XP you should have NSW 2003 for best results.
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It is most likely not a hard disk problem, since explorer.exe is working fine now. It could have been a memory corruption problem, since I'm not running ECC RAM. The system is overclocked slightly, but it runs Folding@Home for two weeks stable, so I don't think that's a problem, though it might be.

Oh well, it's not as bad as the "good old days" of Windows 98 where on occasion explorer.exe would just get FUBAR and start crashing, even after a reboot or three. A reboot into DOS would be necessary to change the system.ini to point the shell to the wonderful progman.exe (program manager holdover from windows 3.1) so SFC (the system file checker) could be run to restore explorer.exe. No, it was not the result of a hard disk corruption, as I ran scandisk many times, and it never found anything. 😕
 
I used to get explorer.exe crashing on me all the time with 98 and ME but hardly at all with windows 2000. The only time I recall did get a lot of explorer crashes was after installing Internet Explorer 6.0 SP1......if you have that installed...go back to the original IE 6.0....it may help!

Corm

edit: Just to confirm that I know you are talking about windows explorer but installing this update to internet explorer did seem to be the root of the problem.
 
Originally posted by: TheCorm
I used to get explorer.exe crashing on me all the time with 98 and ME but hardly at all with windows 2000. The only time I recall did get a lot of explorer crashes was after installing Internet Explorer 6.0 SP1......if you have that installed...go back to the original IE 6.0....it may help!

Corm

edit: Just to confirm that I know you are talking about windows explorer but installing this update to internet explorer did seem to be the root of the problem.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I have indeed installed IE 6 SP1, but haven't had any explorer.exe crashes since then. At this point, I'm just going to blame it on an overclocking anomality, or some other mixup of bits. 🙂
 
Becareful.....the "windows is really pissing me off" and "getting very mad at windows" slogans are trademarked by MS. They could sue you, and since you (more than likely) don't have as much money as they do, you will be forced to state such things as "I am getting very mad at Windows because I can't break it" or "Windows is really pissing me off because I can't get a mythical BSOD".
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LOL😀
 
Originally posted by: Suprosonic
Buy A Mac - OS X is a simple, elegant OS and has been much more stable than XP
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Yeah, but who in the hell wants to underclock??? 😀 I have a problem with paying far to much for far too little. Apple needs to get out of the hardware market..


WAIT!!!! I SAW YOU IN ONE OF THOSE SWITCH ADS!!!! YOURE THAT SKINNY HEROIN ADDICTED KID WHOSE DAD WON'T SWITCH OVER TO MAC'S AND HE'S TICKED!!!
 
Originally posted by: igiveup
Yeah, but who in the hell wants to underclock??? 😀 I have a problem with paying far to much for far too little. Apple needs to get out of the hardware market..
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So does that mean you pirated Windows?

Memtest86 is a nice utility, and it's open source too...
 
Originally posted by: Suprosonic
Buy A Mac - OS X is a simple, elegant OS and has been much more stable than XP
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Heh, just another typical Mac evangelist.

When I choose computers / operating systems, I choose them for their functionality; they must be able to do what I need to get done. I don't choose systems for their UI. Unfortunately, some software that I run at this time requires Windows, so I can't switch to Linux completely. But, right now, I have no need for a Mac. Yes, I know I can probably find replacements for most or all of my software, and yes it will probably interface to my digital camera easier (and no, I don't play the cello 😉), but it's not worth the effort to switch because what I have now is (for the most part) working fine.
 

Get a mac?

Your kinding right.

Who plugs a camera into a pc anyway.
Thats what a compact flash reader is for.

"Oh Im a compact flash card reader and I saved christmass!!!"


 
i guess it would suffice to say that mac bashers just dont "get it", even though i'm not even sure i'm qualified to say that.

is it really enough that your computer "works"? is that really "good enough"? there are many different os's or environments one can get into and find a groove in, mac included, linux included, etc. but windows - i honestly dont think it is possible to be that connected with your computer when it is running windows.

(btw this isnt directed at anyone specific, its directed at everyone 😉)
 
Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
i guess it would suffice to say that mac bashers just dont "get it", even though i'm not even sure i'm qualified to say that.

is it really enough that your computer "works"? is that really "good enough"? there are many different os's or environments one can get into and find a groove in, mac included, linux included, etc. but windows - i honestly dont think it is possible to be that connected with your computer when it is running windows.

(btw this isnt directed at anyone specific, its directed at everyone 😉)
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IMO that's true for Windows and any MacOS before 10.

Sure, you can customize Windows (to a point), but not without loads of closed source software that can easilly causes big problems...
 
> guess it would suffice to say that mac bashers just dont "get it", even though i'm not even sure i'm qualified to say that. <<<

Another mac devotee letting off steam because they have an inferior computer compared to a real computer.

I am getting tired of those dirtying up the PC forums with their mac and linux trash.

I played around with a G4 my aunt has but only when it has not crashed and died which it does every week or more often. She is on a friendly first name basis with the mac unTech after so man unsuccessfull attempts to make that G4 run for longer than a week.

I just smile and tell her my PC has not crashed since I installed XP Pro on it and she just gets a sad stare on her face. Wants to know why her G4 cannot run as well as my computer does. So far no one knows why but I do. 🙂

 
Originally posted by: johnlog
> guess it would suffice to say that mac bashers just dont "get it", even though i'm not even sure i'm qualified to say that. <<<

Another mac devotee letting off steam because they have an inferior computer compared to a real computer.

I am getting tired of those dirtying up the PC forums with their mac and linux trash.

I played around with a G4 my aunt has but only when it has not crashed and died which it does every week or more often. She is on a friendly first name basis with the mac unTech after so man unsuccessfull attempts to make that G4 run for longer than a week.

I just smile and tell her my PC has not crashed since I installed XP Pro on it and she just gets a sad stare on her face. Wants to know why her G4 cannot run as well as my computer does. So far no one knows why but I do. 🙂
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What OS is she running on her G4? If it's not OS X, it's not any good. The OS 9 series and previous had memory management (among other things) about on par, or less than, what Windows 9x could provide. Thus, they tend to crash a lot.

I wish that Apple systems would actually get caught up in processor speed, but for most of their user base, it doesn't seem to matter a lot. For example, a graphics designer I know said that their company used Apple 7000-something systems and G3s until relatively recently, and they're just in the process of getting G4s with OS X. The impression I got from talking to them is that they don't really care about the OS or the hardware, as long as it gets the job done, and doesn't crash too much (but one crash or so per day is something that they don't really seem to care about and just live with). They only upgrade when their customers upgrade; upgrading too soon would break compatibility. Not saying that this is the attitude of the rest of the printing industry, but it's how the few people that I know who are in that industry feel about their computers.

Anyway, the part about breaking compatibility with customers is probably why for the most part the whole printing industry still uses Macs; if anyone were to switch to a PC, even though it were magnitudes faster, they would not be able to communicate with any other printing businesses (a vital requirement). With OS X, this may have changed, but I haven't had enough time with it to be able to say positively that it is more PC-compatible; however, the inclusion of services like Samba make me think that in general Windows interoperability has improved.
 
Originally posted by: TheOmegaCode
Originally posted by: igiveup
Yeah, but who in the hell wants to underclock??? 😀 I have a problem with paying far to much for far too little. Apple needs to get out of the hardware market..
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So does that mean you pirated Windows?

Memtest86 is a nice utility, and it's open source too...
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Pirated windows? Think that one wins the "left field" award. Just so you know, MS actually gave me my copy, and for free too. Get yours..., although they may have stopped giving em out.

I was refering the the overpriced hardware they shove down mac users throats.
 
Originally posted by: igiveup
Pirated windows? Think that one wins the "left field" award. Just so you know, MS actually gave me my copy, and for free too. Get yours..., although they may have stopped giving em out.

I was refering the the overpriced hardware they shove down mac users throats.
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I was being facetious. I know exactly what you were referring to, but you said you had a problem with paying far to much for far too little, so I couldn't let it go...

As for going to a Microsoft Seminar, I'd much rather go to a BUG or LUG...
 
Originally posted by: johnlog
> guess it would suffice to say that mac bashers just dont "get it", even though i'm not even sure i'm qualified to say that. <<<

Another mac devotee letting off steam because they have an inferior computer compared to a real computer.

I am getting tired of those dirtying up the PC forums with their mac and linux trash.

I played around with a G4 my aunt has but only when it has not crashed and died which it does every week or more often. She is on a friendly first name basis with the mac unTech after so man unsuccessfull attempts to make that G4 run for longer than a week.

I just smile and tell her my PC has not crashed since I installed XP Pro on it and she just gets a sad stare on her face. Wants to know why her G4 cannot run as well as my computer does. So far no one knows why but I do. 🙂
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hello? are you a robot?
 
Well, I figure with 1/10th the hardware, 1/50th the software, and 1/1,000,000th the amount of possible system configs, MS would be able to have a rock stable OS like the MAC does...without the closed system, I doubt osx would be anywhere near the platform that windows is.
 
Originally posted by: Steppy
Well, I figure with 1/10th the hardware, 1/50th the software, and 1/1,000,000th the amount of possible system configs, MS would be able to have a rock stable OS like the MAC does...without the closed system, I doubt osx would be anywhere near the platform that windows is.
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probably not. thats one of the things that has always made apple...apple. less choice, but stuff that does work, "just works".
 
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