I am getting sick of this tipping entitlement...

[kaerflog]

Because I work in the industry and know lots of people in the industry. I had just met the bartender that served me last night like a few days before that, so you'd think that she wouldn't take 30 minutes to run my card. Turns out that I tip in the 40-100% range anyways, so I leave a monster tip and then never go back. Kinda like, fuck you, you're gonna miss out on future money.

Thats the most retarded idea evar.
If you give them 100% how in the hell do they know they gave shitty service ??
How do the fuck will that person will even remember if you will come back or not ??
I guess all the shitty servers would love to serve people like you.
I would love people to say "fuck you" to me by leaving me huge tips.

 

[Rakewell]

Yes, yes it does.

Quote:
Employers electing to use the tip credit provision must be able to show that tipped employees receive at least
the minimum wage when direct (or cash) wages and the tip credit amount are combined.
Quote:
Where an employee does not receive sufficient tips to make up the difference between the direct (or
cash) wage payment (which must be at least $2.13 per hour) and the minimum wage, the employer must
make up the difference
Quote:
Where a tipped employee is required to contribute to a tip pool that includes employees who do not
customarily and regularly receive tips, the employee is owed all tips he or she contributed to the pool
and the full $7.25 minimum wage.
http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs15.pdf

I understand you're point. But it sounds vague to me, NS1. And I don't believe these laws are adhered to.

And this was not the way it was handled when I waited tables.

If it was day to day, an employee could simply lie to the employer about the amount they made. "Oh, damn, I didn't make minimum today".

Granted, when there's pooling involved, it's easier to make that call. But a lot of waiters don't pool. (I didn't pool when I waited.)

 

[NetWareHead]

Yeah screw that leaving 100% tip for shitty service. I once ate at Macaroni Grill and they use paper tablecloths on top of the tables with a supply of crayons for you to doodle with. After receiving one of the worst waiter services I could remember, I used the crayon to briefly jot down my reasons for a shitty tip and then left a penny on the table which I circled with the crayon and wrote "your tip" next to it.

 

[Ns1]

I understand you're point. But it sounds vague to me, NS1. And I don't believe these laws are adhered to.

And this was not the way it was handled when I waited tables.

Employers who are not complying with the stated laws can be sued.

see http://waiterpay.com/tag/minimum-wage/ for examples of restaurants sued for tip violations.

The workers alleged that the Batali restaurants violated the FLSA and NYLL by: (1) unlawfully deducting the equivalent of four to five percent of each shift’s wine or alcoholic beverage sales from the tip pool; (2) unlawfully taking a “tip credit” and paying the service staff less than the minimum wage; and (3) failing to pay employees spread-of-hours pay when they worked more than ten hours in a day.

...

The Settlement Agreement creates a fund of $5,250,000 for approximately 1,100 class members. The eligible employees consist of all individuals who worked at the restaurants as captains, servers, waiters, bussers, runners, back waiters, bartenders, and/or barbacks from July 22, 2004 to February 14, 2012.

Regarding the bartender...

Additionally, Ruby Tuesday is accused of improperly deducting money from the tips of the bartenders by requiring them to use their own tips to make up for any differences in the tip-out process between the servers and hosts, food runners, and bartenders.

So if you guys are getting hosed at work, sue sue sue.

 

[Rakewell]

Employers who are not complying with the stated laws can be sued.

see http://waiterpay.com/tag/minimum-wage/ for examples of restaurants sued for tip violations.

If they're suing, then that's a good thing.

I've never heard of anyone in the service industry (and I know a few) who had their base pay compensated to minimum wage ($7.25 +) if they didn't make enough on a day to cover the discrepancy.

On another note,

When I was a waiter, the whole point was to make a decent take-home, so I didn't have to work somewhere for $7.25+. I tip well because it's a part of the meal, and I take cost of living into consideration.

There are a lot of things that are out of a waiter's control in this environment, and stiffing him/her because the food was late, or other mistakes that people will make is totally inappropriate.

The only time I don't tip well is when I get attitude from a server.

 

[Ns1]

If they're suing, then that's a good thing.

I've never heard of anyone in the service industry (and I know a few) who had their base pay compensated to minimum wage ($7.25 +) if they didn't make enough on a day to cover the discrepancy.

I'm not naive to say that it doesn't happen. People just gotta fight for their right...

Of course, I live in CA so all of this doesn't apply to me at all.

 

[DCal430]

It's good that California is doing this. Please be aware that there are 49 other states.

Look here:

http://www.minimum-wage.org/california-tipped-employee-minimum-wage



$30 dollars in tips a month. Sound like a lot to you? And if they make less than that, the employers are required to make up the difference.

It isn't just California, it is ALL of the western states.

California, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Nevada, and Alaska.

 

[alkemyst]

That is funny, because people don't tip in Japan.

You better tip your landlord if you want to rent their place.

 

[alkemyst]

I understand you're point. But it sounds vague to me, NS1. And I don't believe these laws are adhered to.

And this was not the way it was handled when I waited tables.

If it was day to day, an employee could simply lie to the employer about the amount they made. "Oh, damn, I didn't make minimum today".

Granted, when there's pooling involved, it's easier to make that call. But a lot of waiters don't pool. (I didn't pool when I waited.)

if most didn't pay with credit today, that may work.

However, they always know the number of tables a person sat plus the check amounts. It's rare to make less than 10% on a day, but it does happen in some dives. Also like I said, the day you ask your employer to pay you out the minimum wage will be probably your last shift.

Pizza guys used to get screwed. I worked chinese food in high school. We'd each average about a $20 order size...I'd end up averaging $2-3 per order and they'd end up with averaging the 'change' up to the next dollar amount. They'd take 10x the orders I did and make like 1/4 the money

 

[kami333]

Yeah screw that leaving 100% tip for shitty service. I once ate at Macaroni Grill and they use paper tablecloths on top of the tables with a supply of crayons for you to doodle with. After receiving one of the worst waiter services I could remember, I used the crayon to briefly jot down my reasons for a shitty tip and then left a penny on the table which I circled with the crayon and wrote "your tip" next to it.

You should have asked to speak with the manager or written a detailed letter to corporate/franchise owner (ie had to ask X times for refills, waited X minutes from the time the first person's entree came out until everyone's was out, etc), chains are generally really good about taking care of you and making sure you don't leave with a bad impression since they want you to come back often. I've gotten gift cards for whole meals after complaining to corporate when I felt the manager didn't properly address something.

One thing I don't understand is why everyone puts up with bad service until the end and leave a shitty tip. If they aren't doing something correctly, let them know. If they start getting attentive, let the manager know or ask for a different waiter.

 

[alkemyst]

You should have asked to speak with the manager or written a detailed letter to corporate/franchise owner (ie had to ask X times for refills, waited X minutes from the time the first person's entree came out until everyone's was out, etc), chains are generally really good about taking care of you and making sure you don't leave with a bad impression since they want you to come back often. I've gotten gift cards for whole meals after complaining to corporate when I felt the manager didn't properly address something.

One thing I don't understand is why everyone puts up with bad service until the end and leave a shitty tip. If they aren't doing something correctly, let them know. If they start getting attentive, let the manager know or ask for a different waiter.

It'd be more funny if that wasn't a popular picture on the internet about 5 years ago.