I am declaring Jihad

[Texmaster]

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<< I defended the flag for 20 years, to include a war and two peacekeeping missions. Call me a "Nationalist" if you like. I gives a damn. Until you have put your life on the line for your country and people, you will never have a clue about what I infer. >>

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Thank you for your service.

 

[GasX]

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<< I declare jihad on you! >>


Go away.

Look at all of the animosity between people of the same nation. It's horrible.

Whats with americans wanting to go to war with anyone, even other americans.
So In times of war our freedom of speech is restricted? I think that freedom is worth more then any amount of lives.
Ask some residents of other nations, who have been fighting civil wars for decades and centuries. >>

The whole point of this is to re-ignite some fires around here. I sense that people are beginning to trivialize current events and that disturbs me.

 

[Texmaster]

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<< Wrong again. When I challenge you to back up what you say just using the main post of this very thread you ran away.

Thats the problem you have. >>


And your problem is that you are like Religous fanatics, instead of questioning their own knowledge and try to learn they stick to their own belives and ask others for facts, which most of the time they dismiss because it does not suit their belives. >>



LOL!! Are you kidding? I question what my government does all the time!

But Getting back to the MAIN SUBJECT (something you still haven't grasped) the conspiracy theories on the WTC attacks were reduiculus and you know it. That was his only point and I completely agree with it.

 

[Czar]

Texmaster,
sure sure.

The point of this thread is simple, one member is saying that he is pissed at people, nothing more, and right now we are just talking about why he and some other people are pissed.

 

<< The whole point of this is to re-ignite some fires around here. I sense that people are beginning to trivialize current events and that disturbs me. >>



Yea, lets get that hatred fired up. That always solves a lot. When you re-ignite some fires, they usually end up directed at other americans as flames.

So essentially the sentiment is, "Were at war, either your with us, or your with them".

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

It's really a shame that we have to kill Afghani citizens.

Having said that, the US is right for killing them. When a nation is at war (regardless of what the regime in control is), these casualties are to be expected - in fact they are necessary. Afghanistan exported terrorism and our citizens were killed. In fact, many of these "innocent Afghani citizens" cheered as our mothers, fathers, friends and neighbors burned to death in the upper floors of the WTC. They laughed as some, trying to escape the choking smoke and flames jumped from the building, plummeting to their deaths. American firefighters, police - all trying to come to their aid - many were crushed to death under tons of rubble from the ensuing collapse.

We showed restraint - we tried to negotiate a release. They declined. We built a coalition and attacked. Every attack has been executed to minimize civilian loss of life.

The pertinent difference is that the US gov't has not been targeting civilians, unlike the Afghani gov't. The Afghani gov't, in its efforts to harbor that son of a bitch - effectively exporting terrorism did. When their gov't did this, they put their own citizens in harm's way. To this day, those "innocents" still support bin Laden as a folk hero. Other bin Laden's will rise from their ranks... from the Taliban's ashes in Afghanistan. Some of these innocent civilians we are sparing will someday attack US civilians.

The Afghanis started it... we'll finish it. We have destroyed their government, and we will have to work in creating a modern regime that will not engage in terrorism. Hopefully we can effect change. If not, we'll have to destroy them again - this time possibly finally.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Some people are just too thick for words, eh Czar?

Texmaster, I was referring to how you kept referring to all the casualties as American, and I've said that now about 16 times. Stop beating around the bush and just give up already.

 

[Pepsi90919]

And you know what, I'm not going to read your neffing in this thread anymore. So I'll let you have the last word if it makes you feel like more of a man.

 

[Texmaster]

<< Texmaster,
sure sure.

The point of this thread is simple, one member is saying that he is pissed at people, nothing more, and right now we are just talking about why he and some other people are pissed. >>



Actually, he makes a specific point about bogus conspiracies about the WTC and every time you dodge it, you look more and more foolish.

 

[Texmaster]

<< Texmaster, I was referring to how you kept referring to all the casualties as American, and I've said that now about 16 times. Stop beating around the bush and just give up already. >>



Of course I never said all the casualities were Americans. Prove me wrong. Go ahead, I dare you to find that quote here or anywhere in this forum where I said that. Its just another BS lie from you and I can't say I'm surprised.

Your attempt at changing the subject of the thread failed miserably and its been a pleasure watching you go down in flames

 

[Czar]

Texmaster,
Have I ever made up some conspiracy theory regarding this? no never, so to me it is a no issue. The further you try to trag me down the further down you go. Please stop trying draging me down to your level.

 

[thebestMAX]

MikeW-

Sorry for the late sign in.

As usual, Im with you.

 

[teriba]

10,000 people die everyday from starvation. This is a drop in the bucket in comparison. Suck it the fvck up!

 

[JoeBaD]

Wouldn't it be cool if AT would display little bomb icons that you could press and simulate a small nuclear weapon annihilating selected posters.

Zwingle - boom boom

czar - boom boom boom

 

[Czar]

<< Wouldn't it be cool if AT would display little bomb icons that you could press and simulate a small nuclear weapon annihilating selected posters.

Zwingle - boom boom

czar - boom boom boom >>


yes, and your uncivilized behavior should reprisent a stick instead of a nuke.

 

[JoeBaD]

BOOM
BOOM
BOOM

 

I am declaring a Jihad against TEXAS!!!

 

[yllus]

Dumbest thread ever. But please, continue to post - time spent here is time taken away from the chance you may influence actual policy decisions.

 

[mithrandir2001]

<< 10,000 people die everyday from starvation. This is a drop in the bucket in comparison. Suck it the fvck up! >>


Yea, next time a murderer goes up on trial, we should let him go because one untimely death is just an miniscule drop in the bucket.



There is a very large distinction between mass murder and starvation. Both result in the same end, yes, but one of these you can see coming weeks in advance.

 

[burnedout]

I am declaring a Jihad against TEXAS!!!

LOL. Do me a favor and hold off on declaring until I move back to KY or TN.

 

[raz]

Isn't this such a wonderful place we live in where, not only do we have the right to our own opinion, but we also have the right to express it?

It sure would be dull around here if everybody thought alike.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Calling the WTC disaster a "drop in the bucket" is really callous. You really should be ashamed of yourself. If I were you, I'd log off and go out somewhere and gain an appreciation for human life. Maybe if you allowed yourself to connect to another human being, you might feel differently.

Why don't you go to ground zero and tell some of the firefighters there to put down their shovels, because 3,000 is really a drop in the bucket?

People starving to death because of harsh economic realities (i.e. - living in a desert) is horrible, but deliberately murdering thousands of civilians, destroying so many people's lives in an instant, relatively speaking - is far worse. One is an issue involving a continuous failure to render aid (which is admittedly not very nice - sometimes), and the other is premeditated murder. There is an enormous difference between the two legally and morally speaking.

This is not just a numbers game... you can't write people off on a ledger sheet - like a one time deduction for a loss. There is no such thing as a drop in the bucket when you are talking about human lives.

 

<< LOL. Do me a favor and hold off on declaring until I move back to KY or TN. >>



TN was next on my list. But I will have my hands full with texas.

 

[GasX]

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<< The whole point of this is to re-ignite some fires around here. I sense that people are beginning to trivialize current events and that disturbs me. >>



Yea, lets get that hatred fired up. That always solves a lot. When you re-ignite some fires, they usually end up directed at other americans as flames.

So essentially the sentiment is, "Were at war, either your with us, or your with them". >>

You could not be more wrong. It's not about hate. it's about ambivalence. It's about cynicism. It's about exploitation. It's about trvializing the most significant historical event most people on ATOT will ever experience.

 

[Jzero]

<< You could not be more wrong. It's not about hate. it's about ambivalence. It's about cynicism. It's about exploitation. It's about trvializing the most significant historical event most people on ATOT will ever experience. >>



It's called moving on and rebuilding. There's only so long you can fester about it before you have to say "My life goes on."
Continuing with your life isn't trivializing anything. You'll never forget what happened or how it made you feel, but if you refuse to rebuild your life and instead allow terrorism to permanently disrupt it and cause you to have a desire for hatred and anger, you've let terrorism win.