I am a liberal lefty BUT.... ["Fake News"]

[Fanatical Meat]

I think my feelings were included in my response. I'd be bored/disinterested but less irritated, since there would be less fuss, and probably wouldn't have commented about it. It's hard to separate the attention from my feelings, innit? Yes, people who disagree with you actually have feelings. Maybe if you realized that sooner we wouldn't be in this regress.

I think you're being deceptive hopefully you'll come to terms with it

 

[Victorian Gray]

No, but she sold 20% of our uranium mines to the Russians.

You really need to stop lying.

 

[Moonbeam]

My concern is that all this over-reactive negative outrage over the party in power is going to infect the American people with a knee jerk sense that every Republican that comes up for election is a Russian traitor who would sell out his country for personal status. It's pretty clear with the election of Trump that half of the country is so functionally illiterate they can't tie their own shoes and people like that are very susceptible to such drumbeat ravings.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

My concern is that all this over-reactive negative outrage over the party in power is going to infect the American people with a knee jerk sense that every Republican that comes up for election is a Russian traitor who would sell out his country for personal status. It's pretty clear with the election of Trump that half of the country is so functionally illiterate they can't tie their own shoes and people like that are very susceptible to such drumbeat ravings.

And this is exactly why I try, whenever possible, to point out the person who is doing the wrongdoing, not the party affiliation. People can (and will) draw their own conclusions about another tribe, as that's human nature. But individuals need to be brought to task and it's important to focus efforts on that, else callouts lose their efficacy.

 

[justoh]

I think you're being deceptive hopefully you'll come to terms with it

Come to terms with... what? My deception? Self-deception? Your mistaken impression? I'm almost never wrong. Let me assure you. Why would you even think of such a grotesque hypothetical? President Hillary? Was actually just about to eat? Actually, wait, that last sentence wasn't a question.

Besides, they'd just read about it in her emails, so her statements would have less relevance. You see? Context matters. I suppose if she respected custom (and law?) when it came to the whole email thingy, then her potential utterances would be more important, but the only probative value her statements would/could have is to corroborate what we'd already know from the emails provided by wikileaks (apart from whatever may have been included in statements made but not otherwise expressed in the form of email).

 

[John Connor]

You really need to stop lying.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-hillary-clinton-sold-americas-uranium-2016-10-26

 

[Moonbeam]

You really need to stop lying.

Hard to say that parrots lie when they say they want a cracker or mention uranium mines.

 

[dank69]

My concern is that all this over-reactive negative outrage over the party in power is going to infect the American people with a knee jerk sense that every Republican that comes up for election is a Russian traitor who would sell out his country for personal status. It's pretty clear with the election of Trump that half of the country is so functionally illiterate they can't tie their own shoes and people like that are very susceptible to such drumbeat ravings.

I think it is better to just assume every GOP representative would sell the entire country out to the Russians in exchange for one more tax cut.

 

[Meghan54]

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-hillary-clinton-sold-americas-uranium-2016-10-26

Again, did that hack bother to mention that absolutely ZERO uranium from any American mine can be taken outside our shores, no matter who owns the mine? Nope, didn't think so......

 

[IronWing]

And this is exactly why I try, whenever possible, to point out the person who is doing the wrongdoing, not the party affiliation. People can (and will) draw their own conclusions about another tribe, as that's human nature. But individuals need to be brought to task and it's important to focus efforts on that, else callouts lose their efficacy.

Given the party platform and the conduct of party members, IMHO, a person choosing to join the Republican Party demonstrates a deep moral failing. There is no legitimate reason to join that party. It's like joining a mob family and asking to not be judged by that action.

 

[dank69]

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-hillary-clinton-sold-americas-uranium-2016-10-26

Just a heads up, when your source calls Hillary "Crooked Hillary SPECTRE Clinton" it might not be unbiased or objective. Also this seems legit:

Money also went to the Clinton Foundation charity, from which the Clintons personally steal money through a channel so clever and cynical that it remains hidden

 

[Moonbeam]

And this is exactly why I try, whenever possible, to point out the person who is doing the wrongdoing, not the party affiliation. People can (and will) draw their own conclusions about another tribe, as that's human nature. But individuals need to be brought to task and it's important to focus efforts on that, else callouts lose their efficacy.

I don't think what I said supports your point. I said that call -outs are so effective that when the called-out changes, the party affiliation of those susceptible to them will also change. I see a day coming when Trump's clothes suddenly fall off.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Just a heads up, when your source calls Hillary "Crooked Hillary SPECTRE Clinton" it might not be unbiased or objective. Also this seems legit:

Hahaha!!!!!!!!!!

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I don't think what I said supports your point. I said that call -outs are so effective that when the called-out changes, the party affiliation of those susceptible to them will also change. I see a day coming when Trump's clothes suddenly fall off.

My concern is that all this over-reactive negative outrage over the party in power is going to infect the American people with a knee jerk sense that every Republican that comes up for election is a Russian traitor who would sell out his country for personal status

I was just referring to that. Just agreeing with you is all, I'd prefer not to classify x group as 'raving lunatics', even if they're foolish enough to support one.

 

[dank69]

I was just referring to that. Just agreeing with you is all, I'd prefer not to classify x group as 'raving lunatics', even if they're foolish enough to support one.

As IronWing mentioned, you HAVE to be a raving lunatic to join the Republican party, or remain with them at this point. It is mandatory.

 

[Moonbeam]

I think it is better to just assume every GOP representative would sell the entire country out to the Russians in exchange for one more tax cut.

Are you still at the assuming stage?

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

As IronWing mentioned, you HAVE to be a raving lunatic to join the Republican party, or remain with them at this point. It is mandatory.

I'm having a harder time disagreeing with this standpoint as time goes on, especially for those wishing to hook their wagon on at this point. There's tons of repubs who have been in support of their party for a decade or longer though which are hopefully trying to distance themselves from the current administration and their policies (even if they aren't full-blown liberal yet). There's probably more than a few younger ones who got snowed into supporting Trump this cycle as well whom aren't pants-on-head retarded.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I am the barometer. Thanks for calling me broken. You don't know who I am, my circumstances etc, so I find your insensitivity/flippancy slightly offensive. It makes me question your motives for going after Trump, to be honest, since I find it hard believe that someone even slightly altruistic could be so mean-spirited.

So I'm debating what to do. The most important stuff is outdoors but can't do things if it's sopping wet. Oh Great Barometer, what will tomorrow bring?

 

[dank69]

I'm having a harder time disagreeing with this standpoint as time goes on, especially for those wishing to hook their wagon on at this point. There's tons of repubs who have been in support of their party for a decade or longer though which are hopefully trying to distance themselves from the current administration and their policies (even if they aren't full-blown liberal yet). There's probably more than a few younger ones who got snowed into supporting Trump this cycle as well whom aren't pants-on-head retarded.

Here's the thing: every GOP policy is designed to help the extremely rich and fuck everyone else. So just because some of the old guard aren't as crazy as the new crop, they're still pure shit.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Are you still at the assuming stage?

I can use a person like that, I mean use them.

 

[Moonbeam]

I was just referring to that. Just agreeing with you is all, I'd prefer not to classify x group as 'raving lunatics', even if they're foolish enough to support one.

Well I can agree that it's not very efficient to call raving lunatics raving lunatics, because as my buddy LunarRay used to say, Trying to teach pigs to fly is hopeless and frustrates the pigs. This is why I try to remind people that conservatives have a brain defect that is not a brain defect in the right circumstances, but is in our current situation, a brain defect they are not able to not have and for which no guilt may be implied. As IronWing said, Republicans are full of deep moral failings but no guilt is applicable because it is the result of a false belief system they defend for moral reasons. They confuse the real good for what has been instilled in them as truth. They have all the proper faith in the good but have no idea what it is.

You can chose to focus on what is good about them and that will be truth, or you can focus on what is evil about them and try to blame them for that. That implication they are worthy of punishment for that guilt would be a false belief. It is the same as what they do in reverse.

 

[John Connor]

Given the party platform and the conduct of party members, IMHO, a person choosing to join the Republican Party demonstrates a deep moral failing. There is no legitimate reason to join that party. It's like joining a mob family and asking to not be judged by that action.

You're clearly delusional. If you're still a libtard at an older age then there's something clearly wrong with you.

 

[jackstar7]

You're clearly delusional. If you're still a libtard at an older age then there's something clearly wrong with you.

What's a "libtard"?

 

[IronWing]

What's a "libtard"?

Given JC's spelling abilities, I just assumed he intended to type "hot, sexy, horn dog stud muffin".

 

[John Connor]

What's a "libtard"?