I am a Factory

[marincounty]

This guy is paid whore, I mean spokesman for Ford. Wraps himself in the flag and pushes Fords, last time I checked Toyota trucks have more domestic content (parts) than a Ford. Similar to Walmart, the great 'Merican company-where everything in made in China.

 

[spittledip]

Who said they didn't? Now there may come a chance to resow and you would salt the earth.

This bitterness harms it's bearer and I say this with no malice or mockery. You've been wronged and no one understands. You've been maligned at times by those without mercy or compassion. We can't undo any of that but begrudging others a chance who have done us no harm poisons the soul. There is nothing but good will in what I'm saying. Please step back and consider my words as I mean them.

Some excellent advice for you Dave. Why not take control of the things you can take control of instead of raging about the things you can't control?

 

[Engineer]

I'm far more pissed at the companies that actually sent out the work than Walmart but if anyone thinks that Walmart was simply 'rolling with the punches', they're full of crap. WalMart was the heavyweight in the room throwing the punches and FORCING companies out of this country. Now that the heavyweight drove away the factories that paid many of their customers so very well, they don't like it at all. They can't get the government to give more and more to help their customers (former?) keep up the sales growth. Let's see if this is just mere lip service or something real.

 

[Matt1970]

Consumers shipped jobs oversea.

Walmart did nothing but roll with the waves that told it where to go.


But go ahead, keep blaming corporations even though YOU are what makes the corporation.

While Wal-Mart isn't blameless in all this, for the most part they were just giving people what they demand. These are the people that will trample you to death on Black Friday to save $10.

 

[Zaap]

“Hey, I am on your side here, I want “made in America” too but make you’re sure on the side of the WORKER not the corporate greed side ok Mike? Love ya,” said Rose Marie Bayless.

Rowe responds by saying, “Love ya back, Rose, but no thanks. You offer up a false and dangerous choice. The world is bigger than “Workers vs. Bosses,” and so is this campaign. Remember, Walmart thrives because a majority of Americans like to shop there. Like Apple, Discovery, Ford, and Facebook, Walmart does not exist for the purpose of employing people. No successful company does. Walmart’s first order of business is to serve their customer. Ultimately, the customer calls the shots. Not management. Not labor. Jobs are just a happy consequence of that success.”

This man is just a realist. His answer is 100% reality based.

OF COURSE that's not going to go over well with the touchy-feely generation that just wants to hear people spout bullshit to them "Yeah! Down with the man!" rather than tell them anything truthful.

A lot of the same twits who will try and shave a buck off of anything and could give a fuck where it's made and will steal/download/scam anything they can rather than pay someone for it, are many of the same twits whining about offshoring. They just want to be told, "You don't have to change anything. You just keep doing what you're doing, the rest of the world will lay down and change for you. And those evil rich people you hate will get theirs. It's ALL about you, Mr. and Mrs. V.I.P. of the entire world."

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I'm far more pissed at the companies that actually sent out the work than Walmart but if anyone thinks that Walmart was simply 'rolling with the punches', they're full of crap. WalMart was the heavyweight in the room throwing the punches and FORCING companies out of this country. Now that the heavyweight drove away the factories that paid many of their customers so very well, they don't like it at all. They can't get the government to give more and more to help their customers (former?) keep up the sales growth. Let's see if this is just mere lip service or something real.

*sigh* You still can't understand. :\

The point is this: If Walmart wasn't throwing the punches, Someone else would be. There is only 1 winner in a 1v1 fight. The key is bringing multiple people into the fight (competition DUR HUR)

 

[Engineer]

*sigh* You still can't understand. :\

The point is this: If Walmart wasn't throwing the punches, Someone else would be. There is only 1 winner in a 1v1 fight. The key is bringing multiple people into the fight (competition DUR HUR)

Based on the 'lip service' that WalMart is giving, I think I do understand and seems that they may finally be understanding too. If you don't have good paying jobs with benefits for the 'masses', you don't have a growing economy. Nobody wins in the long run....even Walmart.

 

[theeedude]

This man is just a realist. His answer is 100% reality based.

OF COURSE that's not going to go over well with the touchy-feely generation that just wants to hear people spout bullshit to them "Yeah! Down with the man!" rather than tell them anything truthful.

A lot of the same twits who will try and shave a buck off of anything and could give a fuck where it's made and will steal/download/scam anything they can rather than pay someone for it, are many of the same twits whining about offshoring. They just want to be told, "You don't have to change anything. You just keep doing what you're doing, the rest of the world will lay down and change for you. And those evil rich people you hate will get theirs. It's ALL about you, Mr. and Mrs. V.I.P. of the entire world."

He's the one narrating a touchy-feely Walmart ad about American jobs.
If he's a realist, he should get real and stop spreading Walmart's BS crocodile tears about American jobs.

 

[theeedude]

BTW, Walmart has $500B in annual revenue, so $250B over 10 years is 5% of their sales. They are running an ad bragging about 5% of their revenue going to American suppliers, that's how stupid they think Americans are.

 

[Zaap]

He's the one narrating a touchy-feely Walmart ad about American jobs.
If he's a realist, he should get real and stop spreading Walmart's BS crocodile tears about American jobs.

Once more, STFU you whiney, jealous little shit. Walmart or anyone else isn't paying you anything because no one wants to hear your envious whining. Someone else should get a 'real job', like you? Sitting around in your mom's basement whining? Yeah right.

 

[Tweak155]

BTW, Walmart has $500B in annual revenue, so $250B over 10 years is 5% of their sales. They are running an ad bragging about 5% of their revenue going to American suppliers, that's how stupid they think Americans are.

How is that a bad thing?

 

[theeedude]

How is that a bad thing?

It's cynical. It's such a tiny percentage of their sales, that they are likely just taking credit for what they were going to do anyways because it's cheaper for them. Some things that are labor unintensive and/or expensive to transport are just going to be made in America. Walmart is pretending like they are doing American workers some big favor when actually it's still business as usual. They are still going to suppliers and squeezing them, so the vast majority is going to keep manufacturing in the third world, but Walmart will use the few who manage to stay afloat in the US as an example of them supporting American labor. When Walmart pays more for same goods made in America, then they can talk about caring about American workers.

 

[OverVolt]

I actually think 5% is significant. Wal-mart is a middle man their profit margin is only like 3-5%.

Retail is the same business it always has been people make stuff, and need somewhere to sell it. The specialty shops that were part-manufacturing part retail are I think what hurt the economy the most. Like Deli's that made their own meat, produce shops that sold their own produce from a local farm, etc. Essentially wal-mart was so efficient horizontally that it put more vertically inclined businesses out of business.

I feel like this is changing with high gas prices. Trucking produce in from Cali doesn't make sense anymore with $4 Diesel, and you have definitely seen a resurgence of farmers markets and local coffee shops etc. since the 2008 gas price shock and rebound.

Wal-mart is saying they want to be a more horizontal business? Wal-mart only does one thing well... retail.

Wal-mart in the future will be more successful in areas connected to rail lines, along shipping lines (Mississippi, etc). where they can bring in cheap products from far away but Wal-mart as it currently stands actually relies pretty heavily on trucking goods long distances and shipping them over large distances.

 

[werepossum]

*sigh* You still can't understand. :\

The point is this: If Walmart wasn't throwing the punches, Someone else would be. There is only 1 winner in a 1v1 fight. The key is bringing multiple people into the fight (competition DUR HUR)

Exactly. Our politicians removed the tariffs and import duties, passed huge amounts of red tape (much of which is good and desirable, but still adds cost), and in general created an environment where winning corporations will manufacture most items off shore with cheap labor. They didn't do this in spite of us, they did this for us. Walmart has been the most successful, but you'll find about the same domestic content in any big box store selling similar merchandise, including high end stores. We've been enjoying the positive effects of this in much lower prices.

Now we're seeing the inevitable negative effects of off-shoring our manufacturing. We're losing our commons - the less we manufacture here, the less we CAN manufacture here, for we no longer have the trained workers (manufacturing and design) or supply chain. We're seriously devaluing our labor by greatly reducing demand for our labor, made worse by high levels of immigration (especially illegal) far above our actual needs and also by increasing automation. We're seeing an increasing gap in earnings between workers and resource owners, in part because of this devaluation of labor but also because to the extent we have exportable product it's largely IP which is inherently more concentrated and because the jobs we're losing were skilled and semi-skilled wealth-producing jobs which paid significantly better than average. We're seeing American companies disappear, both piece by piece (e.g. IBM) and whole as companies either fold under foreign competition or become less competitive and get bought up by foreign money.

In a sense we're like the struggling farmer who sells off a few acres every year and discovers he's making more money selling land than farming. For awhile he's living high on the hog, but eventually he inevitably runs short of land - and at that point farming is no longer a viable option either. A nation simply cannot survive long term if it consumes more wealth than it produces, and at some point Uncle Mao is going to want some return rather than loaning Uncle Sugar continuously more money to spend AND more money to make his payments. At that point we crash and burn, inevitably. The only good part is that being so big and so rich, we'll take a long time to burn.

 

[OverVolt]

Huh... I was wrong on that lol.