i am a conservative

[Steeplerot]

Thanks Moon

He was calling conservatives delusional and too incompetent/cowardly to honestly self-analyze like a rational human being with a few critical thinking skills. But hey, own it then. It's all you.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Thanks Moon

Heh Moonie
You might as well be debating a 2X4

 

[Greenman]

Par for the course, conservatives are obsessed by others taking from them.

RW media teaches them to blame others motives as suspect -thus rationalize their own moral dilemma.

Much easier to take the intellectual cowardice route and blame the weakest of society.

This is the inherent sociopathic nature of conservative cult to keep them pawns and trapped in ignorance.

Maybe occasionally late at night they wonder why they are so twisted and driven to haterism, but these kind of folks will just blame liberals as dutifully told and roll right over and sleep.

Safe and warm in the fact that they may be wrong, but they are on the side of the money and power. C'est la vie!

The bigger they are, the harder they fall, history is never on the side of conservatism as their tired game always fails miserably.

Sleep well righties, i look forward to dancing on the grave of contemporary conservatism, it is a 20th century failed idea that is only being held up by the last death spasms of corporate TV/radio media fattened and rich by having comfortable media monopolies for almost a century.

Soon conservatism will be the same "WTF was wrong with people back then?" when looked back upon like those who fought against civil rights in the 60s or the pro-slavery crowd in the 1850s.

A kid told me the other day that "Conservatives are 20th century relics of a VERY screwed up age."

Hopefully he will not have to grow up with such gullible fools spreading corporate nonsense like it was a soap opera/moral crusade everywhere.

This is why I'm a conservative. The arrogance of many liberals is nothing short of astounding. The absolute conviction that not only are liberals right, but they have to stop conservatives at any cost, frightens me. It's not just this post, look through the first page of P&N and count how many threads there are offering "proof" that liberals are superior to conservatives.
This is totalitarian thinking. This is the attempt to silence people with differing points of view, and far to many are willing to distort facts (see above post) and outright lie to achieve their goals.

Read the post I quoted above, and change the words righties, conservatives, and republicans to ******s. It's the exact same trash you'll find on stromfront.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

This is a conservative trait.

It's a human trait.

 

[Steeplerot]

This is why I'm a conservative. The arrogance of many liberals is nothing short of astounding. The absolute conviction that not only are liberals right, but they have to stop conservatives at any cost, frightens me.

Conservatism has done nothing but sow division and enrich the top of society -at the rests expense. If a idea is failed then it should be shunned.

Continuing to not learn from your mistakes = madness.

But then conservatism has a big problem with reality not lining up with its own rhetoric, but then who ever said that conservatism cares about reality, it's a tabloid cult with a major douchey chip on its shoulder. A very undeserved entitled attitude at that.

How do conservatives get off thinking they are the moral crusaders of liberty and values?

Conservatism cannot even take a good look at itself without falling into the trap of its own rhetoric.

Stick a knife in it, tabloid tv conservatism is done -like communism in the 20th century. The only thing propping up conservatism now is the 20th century monopoly media corporations funding the endless stream of bullshit propaganda for the cold war retirees on the phoney tee-vee world that served as their nanny.

You live by the sword you die by the sword, you conservatives will be haters who will never understand why everyone thinks you suck, then one day, like the tee ve and radio, there will be no more listeners, and the conservative signal will be a relic of a messed up past.

 

[dmcowen674]

Conservatism has done nothing but sow division and enrich the top of society -at the rests expense. If a idea is failed then it should be shunned.

Continuing to not learn from your mistakes = madness.

But then conservatism has a big problem with reality not lining up with its own rhetoric, but then who ever said that conservatism cares about reality, it's a tabloid cult with a major douchey chip on its shoulder. A very undeserved entitled attitude at that.

How do conservatives get off thinking they are the moral crusaders of liberty and values?

Conservatism cannot even take a good look at itself without falling into teh trap of its own rhetoric.

Stick a knife in it, tabloid tv conservatism is done -like communism in the 20th century. The only thing propping up conservatism now is the corporations funding the endless stream of bullshit propaganda for the cold war retirees on the phoney tee-vee world.

What the #^(^#&???

You were one of the biggest radical right posters on here, what brought the change of heart?

 

[Moonbeam]

This is why I'm a conservative. The arrogance of many liberals is nothing short of astounding. The absolute conviction that not only are liberals right, but they have to stop conservatives at any cost, frightens me. It's not just this post, look through the first page of P&N and count how many threads there are offering "proof" that liberals are superior to conservatives.
This is totalitarian thinking. This is the attempt to silence people with differing points of view, and far to many are willing to distort facts (see above post) and outright lie to achieve their goals.

Read the post I quoted above, and change the words righties, conservatives, and republicans to ******s. It's the exact same trash you'll find on stromfront.

You are a conservative. You are arrogance itself, truthiness is the name of your game, feeling right in your gut without any rational reason and being egotistical about that fact. Conservative arrogant irrationality and smug pride in their feeling of being correct drives people nuts who use reason to sift through all the grays you see in black and white to arrive at meaning and don't understand that you can't help it, that you have an enlarged right amigdala that causes you to assess everything by whether there is some fear you have to repress. This is what is happening right here in your post. You determine what you think is true because liberals scare you. But you pissed them off by being blind to their reasoning which they know is reasonable compared to what you see. You feel they are arrogant because they are challenging YOUR arrogance in a pissed off sort of way that you create by being rationally opaque.

This is the result of the fact that nobody wants to integrate the fact into their thinking that conservatives are not to blame for how they react. It is the result of a condition in wiring of their brains. My suspicion is that you had to develop that wiring to survive other conservatives doing to you what they try to do to liberals. You were assimilated by the Borg. Not your fault. Not the fault of Liberals, either, that you make them sick. They also have had to struggle with irrationality all their lives.

So I hope you see they feel the need to stop you like they feel the need not to go insane, not to allow fear to take over their thinking. They have developed the parts of their brain that deal with irrational insanity and are as afraid of succumbing to it as you are of letting go of it. The difference is that their fear is rational and yours is not.

And liberals are not superior than conservatives, they are different. Conservatives feel superior so they see any challenge to that as a contest for status. It is conservatives who care for status. Liberals are in to self actualization and acquire their status internally, not by winning contests. The problem you are going to run into is if you want to try to compete with them on logic and reasoning. You won't have a chance. You will wind up feeling morally superior instead, which you also have done in your post.

So when conservatives and liberals are driving in the same car and conservative want to take the road that goes over a cliff that liberals can reason is there waiting down that road, they are going to struggle to get their hands on the wheel. Liberals use their brains to sift through the grays to find patterns that mean tiger. Forethought and reasoning are survival adaptations that focus on future dangers rather that avoiding the emotions of disasters in the past. All liberals want to do is save you from yourself as you want to save us from your past. I thank you for that but I've done a lot of dredging up what I went through and survived and benefited from it. I have a good idea of what happened to you. I am afraid of remembering my past just like you but I have experience remembering it in a therapeutic situation and I no longer fear what I remembered. I believe that would hold true all the way down to my very first trauma, no?

Anyway, this is how one liberal who doesn't blame you for who you are sees things. I know that you intentions are good and appropriate to your brain wiring as are mine to me. You want to conserve and create stasis so no negative feelings come up, and I, while hoping they don't, know I will profit handsomely is some accidental event causes them to. It's liberals that press off into the unknown for the adrenaline rush.

 

[Greenman]

Conservatism has done nothing but sow division and enrich the top of society -at the rests expense. If a idea is failed then it should be shunned.

Continuing to not learn from your mistakes = madness.

But then conservatism has a big problem with reality not lining up with its own rhetoric, but then who ever said that conservatism cares about reality, it's a tabloid cult with a major douchey chip on its shoulder. A very undeserved entitled attitude at that.

How do conservatives get off thinking they are the moral crusaders of liberty and values?

Conservatism cannot even take a good look at itself without falling into teh trap of its own rhetoric.

Stick a knife in it, conservatism is done -like communism in the 20th century. The only thing propping up conservatism now is the corporations funding the endless stream of bullshit propaganda for the cold war retirees on the phoney tee-vee world.

There it is. You read my concerns, dismissed my entire thesis, and responded with anger and hate. You are exactly what you claim to despise, you're the antitheses of free flowing ideas. The entire concept of someone else having an approach or idea that isn't aligned lock step with your agenda makes you angry.

 

[Moonbeam]

Radical.......the reaction to extreme childhood trauma resulting to assimilation of the abused via the Stockholm syndrome, or the intense hatred of abusers. In either case the underlying reality is that the trauma caused the reaction, fear and suppressed rage or rage and suppressed fear. Health is not in either extreme or any where in between. Health is the transcending of trauma via emotional awakening, knowing what happened and how it was all a lie, the replacement of self hate with self realization. There is only love.

 

[Steeplerot]

What the #^(^#&???

You were one of the biggest radical right posters on here, what brought the change of heart?

You have me VERY confused with someone else.

A P&N post from me in 2004 (when the Iraq war was popular around here!)[/b]

04-03-2004
Steeplerot
Lifer


RE: Powell Expresses new Doubts About Basis for WMD claim

Not fair for rich jerks in power to decide who of my friends should die knowing they didn't have their facts straight.
It is a shameful time to be an American.



My view has been consistent for 8 years on this forum and have worked in lefty politics IRL since 1991.

If anything I have watched half this forum members switch sides who bashed me out endlessly.

Didnt YOU vote for GW Bush Dave? wtf?

My opinions may be unpopular and I have little patience for BS from reactionaries but my view has always been consistent.

 

[brianmanahan]

i feel that we really arent communicating effectively here

reminds me of congress

 

[SagaLore]

If by a conservative you mean conservative with capitalization of letters and punctuation, then yes, yes you are.

 

[cybrsage]

The research says that liberals have an enlarged area of the brain compared to conservatives...

[ahnold]It is a tumah[/ahrnold]

 

[cybrsage]

Are you sure of this? cybrstooge certainly seems a joke in most of his threads.

Troll Troll Troll your post, gently down the thread! Just as a reminder, trolling is against the rules.

 

[brianmanahan]

[ahnold]It is a tumah[/ahrnold]

parsing error, mismatched tags

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

I don't see how a false dichotomy makes you anywhere close to anything but wrong.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Troll Troll Troll your post, gently down the thread! Just as a reminder, trolling is against the rules.

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

I do not believe the post meets your severely restricted definition of trolling.

Since your post contains only implication, I believe you have technically avoided intentionally posting misinformation.

 

[cybrsage]

...

 

[cybrsage]

I do not believe the post meets your severely restricted definition of trolling.

Since your post contains only implication, I believe you have technically avoided intentionally posting misinformation.

Now you are posting off topic posts with the intention of derailing the thread. You need to quit while you are behind, not dig yourself in deeper.

That said, you post was inflammatory, extraneous, and off-topic (meaning the first half of the requirement to be a troll post is true) and its primary intent was to provoke an emotional response and disrupt the normal on-topic discussion (meaning the second half of the requirement to be a troll post is true). Since both portions are true, it is found to be a troll post.

Thank you for helping me prove you trolled.

 

[sportage]

Name one conservative that hasn't eaten crow, and a double helping at that, over their support of GW Bush.
And GW WHO? is not an acceptable answer.
Kinda shoots that 'always right" theory all to hell... ya think?

 

[werepossum]

Another insightful, informative p&n thread. Once again proving conclusively that stupidity knows no party lines.

Agreed, in spades.

 

[werepossum]

[ahnold]It is a tumah[/ahrnold]