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I am a college educated, big-city living, agnostic who voted for Bush.

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300k is not a city it is a suburb or medium sized town.
Made even more isolated by urban sprawl in american which makes the residents even more isolated becasue of automobiles need for transport.
Notice Kerry won every big state besides the hole most americans refer to as tx.
LA Chi-Town NYC (Ground zero!)
And a whole bunch of out of touch commuters in so called "cities" (overgrown out-of-touch suburbs)
Quite a few are TV watching, radio listening to commuters and generally cut-off from American day-to-day life.
30% of americans voted for Bush, sad that our culture here in American has declined so far as to let people be polarized like that but even more sad is the world that is going to have to deal with US becasue of the few out of touch DISinformed Americans that pushed their hate-filled agenda to the top once again.


I for one want no part in it and wash my hands of this administration and the evil about to be unleashed on a unsuspecting people here and everywhere.

Have fun dying for your oil and god.
 
big city? i bet there are cattle less than a mile from your house! (there are from mine :Q)
 
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Why in hell would you vote for crew who would like nothing beter than to legislate your private life and who would brand you and your wife as immoral perverts who are unfit to rear children?

Do you have bitterness about something that happened to you?
 
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Svnla

The city. We ranked 3rd in the state (behind New Orleans and Baton Rougue).

I don't mean to be obnoxious but that doesn't strike me as big-city living. NY, LA, SF, Seattle, Chicago, maybe even New Orleans, THAT is big city living. (I know, it sounds obnoxious). 😛 Point is I'm not sure if you really break the stereotypical mold of a Republican.

That's why I said in my original reply that I live in a "mid size" city. I don't live in mega cities such as NYC, SF, DWF, and such but I sure don't live in hillbily country side with no running water and barefoot..LOL.

 
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Mwilding
I used to be a democrat. That was when I was sixteen and foolish and didn't even have a high school education... 😛

seriously though, I am the poster boy for the Republican that apparently can't possibly exist.

Naturalized citizen
Product of public schools
Holder of a graduate degree
Resident of a typically Democratic city in a typically Democratic state
Recipient of social welfare in past year (unemployment)
Agnostic

Recipient of social welfare in past year (unemployment)
What would you have done without it?
I would have spent more of the money that I saved up while I was working.... your point?
 
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: CPA
Anyone else like me out there?

Thought I would ask, because according to many posts today only uneducated (idiotic, to use the more prevelent term), rural dwelling, religious zealots vote for Bush.

Now, I don't deny that Republicans get many urban and religious votes, but there are plenty of us who don't fit that category.
California's Orange County is filled with people like that who voted for Bush...

(I am registered to vote there but am not one of them)

That's the old OC. And actually southern california has a long tradition of religious fundamentalism. Things have been changing for a while now with the influx of migrants. Sure there's still some old remnants but it's a dying breed. They're moving to Colorado or Arizona.
I think I'm gonna have to see a link to our "long tradition of religious fundamentalism"...the one powerful enough to be a deciding factor in how OCers vote...

Oh, and it can't be that old as just yesterday, the county gave its support to Bush by a 21% margin.

[Edit] And before it's called not a big city, consider that it's got a higher population density than the counties that hold LA, Seattle, and New Orleans
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
big city? i bet there are cattle less than a mile from your house! (there are from mine :Q)
Mine, too, but I voted for John Kerry. Reductive, unthinking stereotypes of all kinds suck.

 
Originally posted by: CPA
Anyone else like me out there?

Thought I would ask, because according to many posts today only uneducated (idiotic, to use the more prevelent term), rural dwelling, religious zealots vote for Bush.

Now, I don't deny that Republicans get many urban and religious votes, but there are plenty of us who don't fit that category.

What is your major exactly? I'll agree that you're one of the few republicans that can hold his head together without spewing crap out.
 
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Mwilding
I used to be a democrat. That was when I was sixteen and foolish and didn't even have a high school education... 😛

seriously though, I am the poster boy for the Republican that apparently can't possibly exist.

Naturalized citizen
Product of public schools
Holder of a graduate degree
Resident of a typically Democratic city in a typically Democratic state
Recipient of social welfare in past year (unemployment)
Agnostic

Recipient of social welfare in past year (unemployment)
What would you have done without it?
I would have spent more of the money that I saved up while I was working.... your point?


Don't you know, you shouldn't be allowed to save money. Spend it on TVs, hookers, and drugs. The government will take care of the rest. You shouldn't have to spend your money to get the necessities to stay alive, such as food and healthcare.
 
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Why in hell would you vote for crew who would like nothing beter than to legislate your private life and who would brand you and your wife as immoral perverts who are unfit to rear children?
I dunno, why the hell would you vote for someone who had no regard to the the lives of unborn children and would take away earned money from individuals to give to those who don't want to work?

Not that I bevieve that, but that seems to be just as valid an argument, now doesn't it?

When I see the words "christian nation" being bandied about in political discussions I find it worrisome.The so called moral agenda of many on the right is worrisome as well.

Do I like things like abortion? no but I feel that not liking some of the things that others choose to do with their freedoms is a small price to pay for my own.Once you start down the road of elimating freedoms eventually the powers that be will get to the freedoms that you enjoy

ie:you= the global you
 
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Why in hell would you vote for crew who would like nothing beter than to legislate your private life and who would brand you and your wife as immoral perverts who are unfit to rear children?

hmmm...let me check my front door....nope, noone trying to tell me I am unfit to raise my children or legislate my private life. Maybe you can help me and show me where that is happening. where is the legislation?

heh, i was wondering much the same.

i still have all the freedoms i had when i was born [should i consider myself lucky to have been born?]
 
I have some college education, I believe in God, live in a town of 2,000 and I voted for Bush.

Now do you haters feel better?
 
Political Science degree from one of the most liberal colleges in Massachusetts, currently working in IT for the second largest biotech/pharma in the world and previously worked for a contractor to the space agency and I voted for Bush and co. so you are not alone, just hoping that he does better this go around.
 
All this debating about liberals and conservatives.......the fact of the matter is that most people are moderates on social and fiscal issues. Unfortunately there is no way for a moderate to win the presidency. I'm hoping that in 08' the Dem. field someone who is articulate and softspoken who can appeal to a broader range than Kerry could.
 
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Why in hell would you vote for crew who would like nothing beter than to legislate your private life and who would brand you and your wife as immoral perverts who are unfit to rear children?
I dunno, why the hell would you vote for someone who had no regard to the the lives of unborn children and would take away earned money from individuals to give to those who don't want to work?

Not that I bevieve that, but that seems to be just as valid an argument, now doesn't it?

When I see the words "christian nation" being bandied about in political discussions I find it worrisome.The so called moral agenda of many on the right is worrisome as well.

Do I like things like abortion? no but I feel that not liking some of the things that others choose to do with their freedoms is a small price to pay for my own.Once you start down the road of elimating freedoms eventually the powers that be will get to the freedoms that you enjoy

ie:you= the global you

I'm all for freedoms, just like most Americans. Which ones do you feel are being eliminated?

The freedom to make as much money as the market allows without being forced to give up a larger-than-normal percentage of it to the government for no other reason than you have been labeled "rich?" Yeah, I hate that that one would have been eliminated under a certain candidate.

The freedom to grow and smoke a particular plant, without being arrested? Yeah, both candidates want to keep that freedom restricted.

The freedom to marry someone of the same sex and have it legally recognized? Yeah, both candidates are against that, but one more adamantly than the other.

You see, neither of the two primary candidates and parties are about giving you all the "freedoms" you need or want, they each have their own little subset that they support, based on their ideals, backgrounds, party platforms, etc. By choosing one over the other, you are just identifying wiith the one that more closely matches your beliefs. There is no right or wrong answer, no matter what anyone wants to make you think. There are only varying degrees of personal feelings of wrongness. That's all the election was about. That's all any of them are really ever about.
 
lol, no, you are not alone. Obviously the millions of people that voted for Bush were not all Christian faithed people. It just happened that a lot of Christians supported Bush's morals and felt Kerry had none.

You do not have to classify yourself as a Christian to hold up Christian values. That is what the left want you to think. 🙂
 
I dun got one a dem callage durgrees and i voted fur bush cause he wants ta git rid a dem geys.

In reality, I grew up in a mid-sized, but very very liberal and highly educated city. Eugene, Oregon, population of about 150k, home of the University of Oregon, and about 100 miles south of Portland. Both my parents have college degrees. My mother is a manager for city government, my father has a PhD and is a professor at the University of Oregon. Both of them are lifelong democrats and my father cut the firehoses at Kent State and has since made documentaries about the tragedy there.

I scored in the 97th percentile on my SAT's and have earned two bachelor's degrees. One in general science w/emphasis in chemistry and the other in computer science. I got my BSCS degree with a cumulative GPA of 3.8 and graduated with honors. I am currently in a MS in Computer Science program part-time while I continue to work full-time as a software engineer for a fortune 500 company.

I am not a religious person and do not attend church.
 
College educated (B.S, working on Ph.D), raised in smaller town but live in a mid-size one now, mostly agnostic, and I voted for Bush. I still disagree with him on some things, mostly social issues, but I still think he's a better choice right now than Kerry.
 
I was a college student. But I found an engineer job before I graduate. During the last three year, I serve honorable as an engineering manager position after I accepted a new job at new company. Well like people said, I have English problem. I wish I have chance to go back college
The good think is my boss like my performance more than my English. Most of customer is ok with my email. They gave me a break.
I live in big city and I vote for Bush. I believe most people who have office politic skill. They vote for Bush
 
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Why in hell would you vote for crew who would like nothing beter than to legislate your private life and who would brand you and your wife as immoral perverts who are unfit to rear children?
I dunno, why the hell would you vote for someone who had no regard to the the lives of unborn children and would take away earned money from individuals to give to those who don't want to work?

Not that I bevieve that, but that seems to be just as valid an argument, now doesn't it?

When I see the words "christian nation" being bandied about in political discussions I find it worrisome.The so called moral agenda of many on the right is worrisome as well.

Do I like things like abortion? no but I feel that not liking some of the things that others choose to do with their freedoms is a small price to pay for my own.Once you start down the road of elimating freedoms eventually the powers that be will get to the freedoms that you enjoy

ie:you= the global you

We don't have the freedom to murder each other. That is one freedom we should not have. So you can't say eliminating freedom is never good. In the case of abortion, I and many others believe that an innocent human life is being taken which is murder. It is not about freedom at all....at all.......that's what the liberals have tried to paint it as by calling themselves pro-choice.
 
Mid-Sized to large city, college educated, working on graduate degree, non religious, voted for Bush. I dont agree with all of his views but super left liberals get on my nerves worse than super right zealots.
 
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
All this debating about liberals and conservatives.......the fact of the matter is that most people are moderates on social and fiscal issues. Unfortunately there is no way for a moderate to win the presidency. I'm hoping that in 08' the Dem. field someone who is articulate and softspoken who can appeal to a broader range than Kerry could.

Actually, there is no way for someone who isn't a moderate to get elected. That is why Kerry lost. If the dems had run a moderate, they would have won. Kerry is the equivalent of the GOP running Pat Robertson or Michael Savage.
 
College educated (B.A.) and went on to graduate school. Will have a M.D. soon (unless sh!t hits the fan 😉 ). I voted for Kerry and I'm atheist.
 
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