I am a Christian

[scorpmatt]

Originally posted by: George P Burdell

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today
Is Christians who acknowledge Jesus with their lips
Then walk out the door and deny him by their lifestyle.
That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable

Not trying to step on your thread Hot Chic, just something I found to be truthful.

The beauty in those words is that they can truthfully be applied to any religion

Yes it can be broken down to accomodate any organized or unorganized religion.

Those lines were spoken by dc Talk, a christian rock band. Now if they were spoken prior to this, I dont know. The first time I heard it was on their album.

 

[dartworth]

speaking in tongues...mouth full of shlt...what's the difference...


oh BTW...you should try blogger.com next time...

:roll:

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: joshsquall
I really don't know how people can't believe evolution exists. Here is the basic definition:
As time progresses, the frequency of genetic variations which are more suitable for the population's environment will increase, while the frequency of genetic variations which are less suitable for the population's environment will decrease.
Basically, you live longer and can produce more offspring if you are better suited for your environment. It's not a myth or even a theory. It's logic.

What you don't believe in is evolution as the origin of man. You believe that men were placed on Earth with the exact same genetics that they currently have.

I was using the term evolution generally to refer to macro evolution or, evolution as the origin of man, yes. Sorry, I took a shortcut with my verbiage there and made it less clear than it should have been.

 

[jupiter57]

Edit: Thread got big way too fast for me!
I'm with you, HotChic.
I'm Christian all the way.
I'm not perfect, far from it, and while I don't advertise nor brag about my beliefs, I let my actions do the talking!
I would much rather treat my fellow man with compassion & honesty and show them how a true Christian acts, than to shout & scream at them & leave them wondering.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: theLION
i thought the gift of tongues didn't exist anymore. once i went to my cousins church and i hear ALOT of people speaking in tongues. I thought it was just crazy.

Yeah, I can't blame anybody for thinking that. In some churches it's actively encouraged/pushed and honestly probably can be written off as an emotional or forced experience. Most of the churches I've attended regularly did/do not believe in it as a current-day spiritual gift.

 

[scorpmatt]

Originally posted by: joshsquall
I really don't know how people can't believe evolution exists. Here is the basic definition:
As time progresses, the frequency of genetic variations which are more suitable for the population's environment will increase, while the frequency of genetic variations which are less suitable for the population's environment will decrease.
Basically, you live longer and can produce more offspring if you are better suited for your environment. It's not a myth or even a theory. It's logic.

What you don't believe in is evolution as the origin of man. You believe that men were placed on Earth with the exact same genetics that they currently have.

Micro evolution exists. Which is the ability to adapt to your current surroundings.

Macro evolution does not exist. This is the ability to evolve from one being into another, ie: monkey into human. If evolution exists, then I should be able to evolve into another being that I choose, yes?

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: HotChic
...

woot, me2!

but srsly you have to put "some" in front of "Christians" because you are generalizing

 

[uhohs]

Originally posted by: dartworth
speaking in tongues...mouth full of shlt...what's the difference...


oh BTW...you should try blogger.com next time...

:roll:

classy

 

[dartworth]

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: joshsquall
I really don't know how people can't believe evolution exists. Here is the basic definition:
As time progresses, the frequency of genetic variations which are more suitable for the population's environment will increase, while the frequency of genetic variations which are less suitable for the population's environment will decrease.
Basically, you live longer and can produce more offspring if you are better suited for your environment. It's not a myth or even a theory. It's logic.

What you don't believe in is evolution as the origin of man. You believe that men were placed on Earth with the exact same genetics that they currently have.

Micro evolution exists. Which is the ability to adapt to your current surroundings.

Macro evolution does not exist. This is the ability to evolve from one being into another, ie: monkey into human. If evolution exists, then I should be able to evolve into another being that I choose, yes?

No...

 

[SWScorch]

As a moderate agnostic, I respect your beliefs and wish more people were like you. I've had too many religious people of all denominations yell at me that I am going to hell or that people like me are the reason why the world is so screwed up. I've gotten into too many arguments with my ex-girlfriend who blidly believed everything her church told her without ever stopping to think logically or question anything. You, on the other hand, seem to be very level-headed and have rational reasons for your beliefs, and more importantly, respect other's rights to believe what they want to as well. I wish more people were like that.

 

[AbAbber2k]

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: joshsquall
I really don't know how people can't believe evolution exists. Here is the basic definition:
As time progresses, the frequency of genetic variations which are more suitable for the population's environment will increase, while the frequency of genetic variations which are less suitable for the population's environment will decrease.
Basically, you live longer and can produce more offspring if you are better suited for your environment. It's not a myth or even a theory. It's logic.

What you don't believe in is evolution as the origin of man. You believe that men were placed on Earth with the exact same genetics that they currently have.

Micro evolution exists. Which is the ability to adapt to your current surroundings.

Macro evolution does not exist. This is the ability to evolve from one being into another, ie: monkey into human. If evolution exists, then I should be able to evolve into another being that I choose, yes?

You might want to stop subscribing to Dr Dino's newsletter. :roll:

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: joshsquall
I really don't know how people can't believe evolution exists. Here is the basic definition:
As time progresses, the frequency of genetic variations which are more suitable for the population's environment will increase, while the frequency of genetic variations which are less suitable for the population's environment will decrease.
Basically, you live longer and can produce more offspring if you are better suited for your environment. It's not a myth or even a theory. It's logic.

What you don't believe in is evolution as the origin of man. You believe that men were placed on Earth with the exact same genetics that they currently have.

Micro evolution exists. Which is the ability to adapt to your current surroundings.

Macro evolution does not exist. This is the ability to evolve from one being into another, ie: monkey into human. If evolution exists, then I should be able to evolve into another being that I choose, yes?

Request: can we keep this in the realm of "I think" or "I believe" rather than in hard and fast statements? I'd prefer the thread to not degenerate into a evolution-creation thread. (Plus, assuming an evolutionary point of view, choice wouldn't enter into evolution.)

 

[eakers]

well done.

 

[toekramp]

Originally posted by: jupiter57
I couldn't have said it better myself!

than darthworth? agreed!

 

[scorpmatt]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: joshsquall
I really don't know how people can't believe evolution exists. Here is the basic definition:
As time progresses, the frequency of genetic variations which are more suitable for the population's environment will increase, while the frequency of genetic variations which are less suitable for the population's environment will decrease.
Basically, you live longer and can produce more offspring if you are better suited for your environment. It's not a myth or even a theory. It's logic.

What you don't believe in is evolution as the origin of man. You believe that men were placed on Earth with the exact same genetics that they currently have.

Micro evolution exists. Which is the ability to adapt to your current surroundings.

Macro evolution does not exist. This is the ability to evolve from one being into another, ie: monkey into human. If evolution exists, then I should be able to evolve into another being that I choose, yes?

Request: can we keep this in the realm of "I think" or "I believe" rather than in hard and fast statements? I'd prefer the thread to not degenerate into a evolution-creation thread. (Plus, assuming an evolutionary point of view, choice wouldn't enter into evolution.)

ok ok ok... I'll have no more fun with that.

btw, nice pic

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: joshsquall
I really don't know how people can't believe evolution exists. Here is the basic definition:
As time progresses, the frequency of genetic variations which are more suitable for the population's environment will increase, while the frequency of genetic variations which are less suitable for the population's environment will decrease.
Basically, you live longer and can produce more offspring if you are better suited for your environment. It's not a myth or even a theory. It's logic.

What you don't believe in is evolution as the origin of man. You believe that men were placed on Earth with the exact same genetics that they currently have.

The newest theory on the origin of the universe from evolutionists is that........................it came from nothing. There's some nice logic for you.

Also, would these magic genetic mutations which unlike most mutations were not harmful but actually benefitial result in missing links? Becuase the story has changed since I was a kid. back then it was that ever so slight changes amounted over time to larger changes. Having found no proof of this, they switched to a new theory about spontaneous genetic evolution...... So I'm just wondering if we should still have countless missing links displaying the phases of evolution or they'd be missing because the change was over a few generations.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: dartworth
speaking in tongues...mouth full of shlt...what's the difference...


oh BTW...you should try blogger.com next time...

:roll:

Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt your more meaningful browsing experience on ATOT. Clicking here will redirect you to a more appropriate thread, for your convenience.

 

[xchangx]

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: George P Burdell

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today
Is Christians who acknowledge Jesus with their lips
Then walk out the door and deny him by their lifestyle.
That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable

Not trying to step on your thread Hot Chic, just something I found to be truthful.

The beauty in those words is that they can truthfully be applied to any religion

Yes it can be broken down to accomodate any organized or unorganized religion.

Those lines were spoken by dc Talk, a christian rock band. Now if they were spoken prior to this, I dont know. The first time I heard it was on their album.

I have met and hung out with dc Talk and I've got to say, those guys are really cool guys to talk to. Their band and DJ are very nice as well.

 

[dartworth]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: dartworth
speaking in tongues...mouth full of shlt...what's the difference...


oh BTW...you should try blogger.com next time...

:roll:

Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt your more meaningful browsing experience on ATOT. Clicking here will redirect you to a more appropriate thread, for your convenience.

right...I guess this is more your style...

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[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: dartworth

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: dartworth
speaking in tongues...mouth full of shlt...what's the difference...


oh BTW...you should try blogger.com next time...

:roll:

Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt your more meaningful browsing experience on ATOT. Clicking here will redirect you to a more appropriate thread, for your convenience.

right...I guess this is more your style...

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Yep! As I said, I'm both screwed up (see paragraph 4) and I like sex (see paragraph 12).

(Just so you know, I don't intend to get pissed off, so the aggressive attitude isn't going to get you very far in this thread. What in particular offended you in what I wrote? If you want to debate, let's have a productive one.)

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: joshsquall
I really don't know how people can't believe evolution exists. Here is the basic definition:
As time progresses, the frequency of genetic variations which are more suitable for the population's environment will increase, while the frequency of genetic variations which are less suitable for the population's environment will decrease.
Basically, you live longer and can produce more offspring if you are better suited for your environment. It's not a myth or even a theory. It's logic.

What you don't believe in is evolution as the origin of man. You believe that men were placed on Earth with the exact same genetics that they currently have.

The newest theory on the origin of the universe from evolutionists is that........................it came from nothing. There's some nice logic for you.

Also, would these magic genetic mutations which unlike most mutations were not harmful but actually benefitial result in missing links? Becuase the story has changed since I was a kid. back then it was that ever so slight changes amounted over time to larger changes. Having found no proof of this, they switched to a new theory about spontaneous genetic evolution...... So I'm just wondering if we should still have countless missing links displaying the phases of evolution or they'd be missing because the change was over a few generations.

I'm not sure why someone who believes in evolution as the origin of man would be an authority on the beginning of the universe. You're incorrectly grouping people together.

Regardless, something coming from nothing is exactly what Christians believe. God always was and always will be (meaning nothing made Him). He created the universe from nothing. Maybe these evolutionists who have become authorities on the beginning of the universe are actually starting to converge with Christian thought.

 

[AreaCode707]

I'm disappointed that out of everything I wrote, the same old evolution-creation debate is emerging as the most interesting thing to talk about. *sniff*

 

[MrWizzard]

Originally posted by: dartworth
speaking in tongues...mouth full of shlt...what's the difference...


oh BTW...you should try blogger.com next time...

:roll:

Ohh Boo Hoo, you are intolerant, all she did is speak her opinion and you have to jump all over her.

Although I don't know if I believe in speaking in tongues in this day of age due to the amount of people who claim to have done it.

:thumbsup: for voicing your opinions publicly without forcing them on people though.

 

[AbAbber2k]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: joshsquall
I really don't know how people can't believe evolution exists. Here is the basic definition:
As time progresses, the frequency of genetic variations which are more suitable for the population's environment will increase, while the frequency of genetic variations which are less suitable for the population's environment will decrease.
Basically, you live longer and can produce more offspring if you are better suited for your environment. It's not a myth or even a theory. It's logic.

What you don't believe in is evolution as the origin of man. You believe that men were placed on Earth with the exact same genetics that they currently have.

The newest theory on the origin of the universe from evolutionists is that........................it came from nothing. There's some nice logic for you.

Also, would these magic genetic mutations which unlike most mutations were not harmful but actually benefitial result in missing links? Becuase the story has changed since I was a kid. back then it was that ever so slight changes amounted over time to larger changes. Having found no proof of this, they switched to a new theory about spontaneous genetic evolution...... So I'm just wondering if we should still have countless missing links displaying the phases of evolution or they'd be missing because the change was over a few generations.

lol, another Dr Dino subscriber. Go take a course on Physical Anthropology.

 

[scorpmatt]

Originally posted by: HotChic
I'm disappointed that out of everything I wrote, the same old evolution-creation debate is emerging as the most interesting thing to talk about. *sniff*

post the pic of you spread eagle on the beach and i'm sure you'll get a different debate.