I advised my buddy to get a barton 2500 retail from googlegear.com, did i give bad advise?

milldakill

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I told my budy that the 2500s were easy to OC but it seams that not all 2500s are created equal and that newegg.com is a good place to get good ones, how bad is the worst 2500 for OCing?
 

boyRacer

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seems like later weeks are nice overclockers... check the overclockers.com cpu database... lots of nice ones there. :)
 

cow123

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well my barton 2500 is quite the piece of poo! i thought overclocking was going bad because the powersupply wasnt doing too well with higher voltages, or even with default 1.65volts!

anyway, i was undervolting it a bit, but it turns out it cant do stock frequency on 1.55volts :'( when the voltages are relatively stable. to cut a long story short, i got a crappy chip! even though the stepping is AQXEA 0325 VPMW (65th of the batch too apparently which should have meant good)

suppose it was pre-determined when i noticed the chip colour was faded halfway through, OH WELL!!

edit: btw this was a retail chip :p
 

Soulkeeper

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i just ordered a 2500+ from newegg and it was an 0329
shipping was free and fast and they gave me a free pen

can't wait to get my mem in the mail
 

MDE

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Originally posted by: cow123
well my barton 2500 is quite the piece of poo! i thought overclocking was going bad because the powersupply wasnt doing too well with higher voltages, or even with default 1.65volts!

anyway, i was undervolting it a bit, but it turns out it cant do stock frequency on 1.55volts :'( when the voltages are relatively stable. to cut a long story short, i got a crappy chip! even though the stepping is AQXEA 0325 VPMW (65th of the batch too apparently which should have meant good)

suppose it was pre-determined when i noticed the chip colour was faded halfway through, OH WELL!!

edit: btw this was a retail chip :p

My chip is the same seek/stepping and does 11x200 at default voltage on an A7N8X Deluxe Rev. 1.04
 

cow123

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hmm, well when i get an antec truepower 430 in a couple of weeks im hoping for a stable overclock.

just at default voltage the 5v and 12v rails are barely within 5% of their supposed voltage... now thats idle, when it gets loaded it goes to about 7%

now if i bumped up the voltage some... well those rails arent gonna be nice at all

edit: when i had my vcore at 1.75v with cpu running 2.1ghz, after playing a games for a while, when i checked high/low on mbm the vcore had dropped to as low as 1.66v! and went as high as 1.78v, so right now im running completely default voltage/frequency
 

cow123

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ah i think it may have been crashing because of 183fsb (after it crashed at stock frequency and voltage!)

that kind of fsb does work on this mobo as i had my old chip running at 190 fsb for a while, so i guess if i wanted high fsb with this chip i'd have to mod it to be default 133fsb right?
 

Heinrich

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I had alot of trouble yesterday with my Newegg week 27 retail Barton 2500XP. Once I got rid of the retail fan and heatsinc and replaced it with the huge copper one I bought last year I'm now running PRIME 95 for hours at 11x200 (3200XP speeds.) It took me HOURS to diagnose though as I reinstalled XP and bought a new power supply etc. The stock heatsinc/fan was my last item because so many others didn't have to mess with it according to the boards here. I bought this DDR3500 thinking I could go beyond that, but if I go even 5mhz beyond that the system is unstable again. I guess I shouldn't be disappointed but others are going 12x200 or 12.5 x 200 or 10x220 etc.
 

cow123

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ooh... yes it seems its perfectly stable at 1.425volts stock frequency (1.833ghz) now ive lowered fsb to 166.. i guess it is a cpu fsb problem after all (the board can handle 190+ quite easily, ram is pc2700 but has been tested upto 192 (384mhz) just fine)

when i get my new psu in couple of weeks im hoping it will do 2.2ghz, im not too confident of 2.3ghz at all
 

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Originally posted by: Heinrich
I had alot of trouble yesterday with my Newegg week 27 retail Barton 2500XP. Once I got rid of the retail fan and heatsinc and replaced it with the huge copper one I bought last year I'm now running PRIME 95 for hours at 11x200 (3200XP speeds.) It took me HOURS to diagnose though as I reinstalled XP and bought a new power supply etc. The stock heatsinc/fan was my last item because so many others didn't have to mess with it according to the boards here. I bought this DDR3500 thinking I could go beyond that, but if I go even 5mhz beyond that the system is unstable again. I guess I shouldn't be disappointed but others are going 12x200 or 12.5 x 200 or 10x220 etc.

Don't feel bad, I can't go even 2MHz over my DDR400 RAM for some odd reason. I do have the 2500+ running at 11x200 just fine on stock cooling though.
 

daweeze02

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Can anyone give me any advice on my barton 2500.

I cant seem to overclock my barton like everyone else, im not sure if its do to my rev 1.04, eventhough i called asus tech and they said it has nothing to do with that(they could be full of ($hit) Also i just orderd 2x512 pc3200 Geil golden dragon then 6-3-3-2 1T stuff so im going to try that when it comes in also.

First heres my setup
Asus a7n8x deluxe 1.04
2x256 Corsair pc3200 XMS series(dual channel) 6-3-3-2 1T
GF3 Ti500 Video Card
500 watt dual fan PSU
5 case fans (one is a blowhole)
thermaltake volcano 7+ heatsink
cpu 40c idle
system 21c

Here are the timings where my computer didnt reboot after 30 secs of windows loading.

175@12.5
2192 mhz
D-8102
W-3310

180@12.5 1.775
2255 mhz
D-8454
W-3397

180@12.5 1.75
2255 mhz
D-8447
W-3354

183@12.5 1.8
2288 mhz
D-8446
W-3457

Also those are my sandra scores. I have gotten 185@at lower mutipliers but it rebooted after a couple of minutes. Also i have tried 200@10 and so on, but when i do that windows starts to flicker then reboots. Let me know if you need anymore nfo to help you I will kindly post it thanks.
 

MatthewF01

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if you are stuck at 183 or 185, CUT THE L12 bridge.

I PROMISE YOU it works.


My TbredA 1800+ was doing 217, then i switched to 2500+, got stuck at 185.

Cut the L12, im back at 217 :)
 

techwanabe

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I'll be building my first XP system using a 2500+ on an 8RDA+ mobo as soon as my memory arrives. First I want to run the system at stock settings and get Windows loaded etc.... get things all set up for a week and running... then start experimenting with O/Cing. My memory will be Buffalo Winbond 512 mb PC3200

So what are the stock settings for this? I'm assuming it would be:
CPU clock mulitplier = 11, FSB = 166 yielding speed at 1826 mhz... that appears to be the stock setting for this CPU.

What would be some conservative settings for me to start with? Mem settings? etc.

BTW, I'd like recommendations for an inexpensive HS/F to get - reasonably quiet... not looking for mega O/Cing here.
 

wluk

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Originally posted by: Soulkeeper
i just ordered a 2500+ from newegg and it was an 0329
shipping was free and fast and they gave me a free pen

can't wait to get my mem in the mail

how's your 0329? I can only get it to run at 11 x 200 with 1.85v stable.
 
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You know, if you want faster speeds, buy a faster chip. Don't whine because your chip won't do more than it was sold for. :p

That being said, I'm an OC monkey myself. Tough break.

- M4H