I admit I'm a pessimist

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Dissipate

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Originally posted by: slash196
Originally posted by: aidanjm
well, what's the solution apart from armed struggle? anything at all?
Actually, armed struggle is looking better every day.

I have to agree, but there is no way it is going to happen. Relatively few people care really about politics in the first place, let alone taking up arms against their slavemasters.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: slash196
Originally posted by: aidanjm
well, what's the solution apart from armed struggle? anything at all?
Actually, armed struggle is looking better every day.

I have to agree, but there is no way it is going to happen. Relatively few people care really about politics in the first place, let alone taking up arms against their slavemasters.

Relatively fewer by far will care to understand that master and slave are dual aspects of the same person at war with himself as the result of self hate. You are a snake that devours its tail.
 

walkur

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"Expect the worst, hope for the best" I always (ok, sometimes) say...
 

Moonbeam

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Imagine that you could be a real Muslim who believes that everything that happens happens exactly as it does because it is the Will of God. To surrender to God's will then would change everything. No more complaining about what is in any way shape or form, no more condemnation of the facts of life. All is God and God's Will. Such a mind perhaps could mount the horse of time and enter into Being. Then every action one takes would be the action of God. Wouldn't that be a wild ride!
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
If it makes you feel better I've always thought of you as more of a whackjob than a pessimist;)

Typical reply of an authoritarian inculcated since birth inside the government indoctrination 'school' system.

Anyone who believes in eliminating the parasitic public sector is a 'whackjob.' :roll:
 

Proletariat

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Moonbeam. You make no sense.

Buddha just came to me in my meditative state and told me to kick your ass.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Moonbeam. You make no sense.

Buddha just came to me in my meditative state and told me to kick your ass.
You have but to express your incomprehension and I will do my best to clarify. My experience has been that profound sense is what most call no sense at all.
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
If it makes you feel better I've always thought of you as more of a whackjob than a pessimist;)

Typical reply of an authoritarian inculcated since birth inside the government indoctrination 'school' system.

Anyone who believes in eliminating the parasitic public sector is a 'whackjob.' :roll:

It took you three weeks to come up with that?:p
 

palehorse

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the real question i have is whether or not some of you let this political pessimism define your entire person...? does this pessimism and dreary outlook on the future consume you?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
the real question i have is whether or not some of you let this political pessimism define your entire person...? does this pessimism and dreary outlook on the future consume you?

No but I have to admit that I have low expectations for anybody elected President (though not as low as the Dub has performed)
 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Optimism and pessimism are the dual horns of a dilemma that is resolved only in the realization that both are totally without meaning.

As soon as we have an emotional preference for the positive over the negative we create the roller coaster of mood swing, the seeking and striving for change. It is this need to change that we destroy the world with, this insistence on the satisfaction of the ego. The only imperfection in this infinite Heaven we live in is the fact that we are sick. You can't fix the insanity of others, you can only cure your own.
This is when I feel that a "padded walls" smilie would be very appropriate.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Optimism and pessimism are the dual horns of a dilemma that is resolved only in the realization that both are totally without meaning.

As soon as we have an emotional preference for the positive over the negative we create the roller coaster of mood swing, the seeking and striving for change. It is this need to change that we destroy the world with, this insistence on the satisfaction of the ego. The only imperfection in this infinite Heaven we live in is the fact that we are sick. You can't fix the insanity of others, you can only cure your own.
This is when I feel that a "padded walls" smilie would be very appropriate.

What you feel, Meuge, is the madness that is hidden in you that my words cause to bring up. The madman you see in that cell is you, not me. The things I say and know that scare you and cause you to fear going mad are things that I learned in part in a therapeutic setting in just such a padded cell. It is a perfect place to let go completely without hurting yourself or fearing you will hurt others. I have stepped through a door that terrifies you but made me laugh, but of course only eventually. Falling over the edge is tough and there are many edges.

But it is quite expected that the mad look at the more sane as though they were the ones who are mad. That is because the road to real mental health winds through what you think is insanity.

As I have told you a few times now, you can be full of brains and education and know practically nothing. The only knowledge that's worth a damn is knowledge of who you are.

And it's vital for you to develop in this area if you want to be a good doctor. You will discover that a ton of illnesses that people suffer are treatable in people by somebody who can carefully listen. Just heard a great example on PBS the other day about a patient who had been to many many doctors seeking relief from some form of heart disease till he ran into a real healer who took the time to ask about his life and his grand kids. The man instantly turned to the doctor and told him that his son had forbid that he ever see his grandkids again. He then said, that's it, that's what is wrong with my heart, and his heart problem went away. Hope yours does too.
 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Optimism and pessimism are the dual horns of a dilemma that is resolved only in the realization that both are totally without meaning.

As soon as we have an emotional preference for the positive over the negative we create the roller coaster of mood swing, the seeking and striving for change. It is this need to change that we destroy the world with, this insistence on the satisfaction of the ego. The only imperfection in this infinite Heaven we live in is the fact that we are sick. You can't fix the insanity of others, you can only cure your own.
This is when I feel that a "padded walls" smilie would be very appropriate.

What you feel, Meuge, is the madness that is hidden in you that my words cause to bring up. The madman you see in that cell is you, not me. The things I say and know that scare you and cause you to fear going mad are things that I learned in part in a therapeutic setting in just such a padded cell. It is a perfect place to let go completely without hurting yourself or fearing you will hurt others. I have stepped through a door that terrifies you but made me laugh, but of course only eventually. Falling over the edge is tough and there are many edges.

But it is quite expected that the mad look at the more sane as though they were the ones who are mad. That is because the road to real mental health winds through what you think is insanity.

As I have told you a few times now, you can be full of brains and education and know practically nothing. The only knowledge that's worth a damn is knowledge of who you are.

And it's vital for you to develop in this area if you want to be a good doctor. You will discover that a ton of illnesses that people suffer are treatable in people by somebody who can carefully listen. Just heard a great example on PBS the other day about a patient who had been to many many doctors seeking relief from some form of heart disease till he ran into a real healer who took the time to ask about his life and his grand kids. The man instantly turned to the doctor and told him that his son had forbid that he ever see his grandkids again. He then said, that's it, that's what is wrong with my heart, and his heart problem went away. Hope yours does too.
So many words... and no content. It's a verbal diarrhea of sorts. Perhaps you should seek a "healer" for this issue.

P.S. The bolded/underlined area is certainly not a surprise.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Optimism and pessimism are the dual horns of a dilemma that is resolved only in the realization that both are totally without meaning.

As soon as we have an emotional preference for the positive over the negative we create the roller coaster of mood swing, the seeking and striving for change. It is this need to change that we destroy the world with, this insistence on the satisfaction of the ego. The only imperfection in this infinite Heaven we live in is the fact that we are sick. You can't fix the insanity of others, you can only cure your own.
This is when I feel that a "padded walls" smilie would be very appropriate.

What you feel, Meuge, is the madness that is hidden in you that my words cause to bring up. The madman you see in that cell is you, not me. The things I say and know that scare you and cause you to fear going mad are things that I learned in part in a therapeutic setting in just such a padded cell. It is a perfect place to let go completely without hurting yourself or fearing you will hurt others. I have stepped through a door that terrifies you but made me laugh, but of course only eventually. Falling over the edge is tough and there are many edges.

But it is quite expected that the mad look at the more sane as though they were the ones who are mad. That is because the road to real mental health winds through what you think is insanity.

As I have told you a few times now, you can be full of brains and education and know practically nothing. The only knowledge that's worth a damn is knowledge of who you are.

And it's vital for you to develop in this area if you want to be a good doctor. You will discover that a ton of illnesses that people suffer are treatable in people by somebody who can carefully listen. Just heard a great example on PBS the other day about a patient who had been to many many doctors seeking relief from some form of heart disease till he ran into a real healer who took the time to ask about his life and his grand kids. The man instantly turned to the doctor and told him that his son had forbid that he ever see his grandkids again. He then said, that's it, that's what is wrong with my heart, and his heart problem went away. Hope yours does too.
So many words... and no content. It's a verbal diarrhea of sorts. Perhaps you should seek a "healer" for this issue.

P.S. The bolded/underlined area is certainly not a surprise.

No more a surprise, I suppose, than that would be all you could carry away. Does it never occur to you as a profoundly defended ego, that I can expose myself to your shots because there's nothing of me you can hit? As I said, Meuge, I learned to laugh.

I should seek a healer. Ahahahahahahahahahaha Ahohohohohohohoh Ahehehehehehehe
OMFGLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Hehehehehehehehehehehehe Giggle giggle giggle ROFLMAFATIPM OH stop it. Please IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII'''''''''''''''''''''''''MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
MM DDDDDDDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG HHHHEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OH NO SOMEBODY PINCH ME PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

Check your socks, Meuge, I think they're different colors!
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Optimism and pessimism are the dual horns of a dilemma that is resolved only in the realization that both are totally without meaning.

As soon as we have an emotional preference for the positive over the negative we create the roller coaster of mood swing, the seeking and striving for change. It is this need to change that we destroy the world with, this insistence on the satisfaction of the ego. The only imperfection in this infinite Heaven we live in is the fact that we are sick. You can't fix the insanity of others, you can only cure your own.
This is when I feel that a "padded walls" smilie would be very appropriate.

What you feel, Meuge, is the madness that is hidden in you that my words cause to bring up. The madman you see in that cell is you, not me. The things I say and know that scare you and cause you to fear going mad are things that I learned in part in a therapeutic setting in just such a padded cell. It is a perfect place to let go completely without hurting yourself or fearing you will hurt others. I have stepped through a door that terrifies you but made me laugh, but of course only eventually. Falling over the edge is tough and there are many edges.

But it is quite expected that the mad look at the more sane as though they were the ones who are mad. That is because the road to real mental health winds through what you think is insanity.

As I have told you a few times now, you can be full of brains and education and know practically nothing. The only knowledge that's worth a damn is knowledge of who you are.

And it's vital for you to develop in this area if you want to be a good doctor. You will discover that a ton of illnesses that people suffer are treatable in people by somebody who can carefully listen. Just heard a great example on PBS the other day about a patient who had been to many many doctors seeking relief from some form of heart disease till he ran into a real healer who took the time to ask about his life and his grand kids. The man instantly turned to the doctor and told him that his son had forbid that he ever see his grandkids again. He then said, that's it, that's what is wrong with my heart, and his heart problem went away. Hope yours does too.

ROFLMAO
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Optimism and pessimism are the dual horns of a dilemma that is resolved only in the realization that both are totally without meaning.

As soon as we have an emotional preference for the positive over the negative we create the roller coaster of mood swing, the seeking and striving for change. It is this need to change that we destroy the world with, this insistence on the satisfaction of the ego. The only imperfection in this infinite Heaven we live in is the fact that we are sick. You can't fix the insanity of others, you can only cure your own.
This is when I feel that a "padded walls" smilie would be very appropriate.

What you feel, Meuge, is the madness that is hidden in you that my words cause to bring up. The madman you see in that cell is you, not me. The things I say and know that scare you and cause you to fear going mad are things that I learned in part in a therapeutic setting in just such a padded cell. It is a perfect place to let go completely without hurting yourself or fearing you will hurt others. I have stepped through a door that terrifies you but made me laugh, but of course only eventually. Falling over the edge is tough and there are many edges.

But it is quite expected that the mad look at the more sane as though they were the ones who are mad. That is because the road to real mental health winds through what you think is insanity.

As I have told you a few times now, you can be full of brains and education and know practically nothing. The only knowledge that's worth a damn is knowledge of who you are.

And it's vital for you to develop in this area if you want to be a good doctor. You will discover that a ton of illnesses that people suffer are treatable in people by somebody who can carefully listen. Just heard a great example on PBS the other day about a patient who had been to many many doctors seeking relief from some form of heart disease till he ran into a real healer who took the time to ask about his life and his grand kids. The man instantly turned to the doctor and told him that his son had forbid that he ever see his grandkids again. He then said, that's it, that's what is wrong with my heart, and his heart problem went away. Hope yours does too.

ROFLMAO

See, already your feeling better.