I absolutely hate making predictions, BUT...

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I predict that Islamic terrorist groups will kill many more thousands (perhaps millions) of Americans because the international community doesn't seem eager to help us anymore in our struggle against terrorism.

What do you think of my prediction?
 

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I predict that Islamic terrorist groups will kill many more thousands (perhaps millions) of Americans because the international community doesn't seem eager to help us anymore in our struggle against terror.

Or maybe the international community has had it up to here with the BS of the Bush administration.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: Xerox Man
Why do you think that they aren't eager to help us?

Reluctantly willing, but eager no. Who is gung ho to go after them?
 
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Originally posted by: Xerox Man
Why do you think that they aren't eager to help us?
Are you asking me what evidence I have to make such a statement, or are you asking me what I think are the reasons behind their lack of eagerness to help us?
 
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Originally posted by: HiveMaster
I predict that Islamic terrorist groups will kill many more thousands (perhaps millions) of Americans because the international community doesn't seem eager to help us anymore in our struggle against terror.

Or maybe the international community has had it up to here with the BS of the Bush administration.
That's a reason why they don't want to help us, not an "or."
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: HiveMaster
I predict that Islamic terrorist groups will kill many more thousands (perhaps millions) of Americans because the international community doesn't seem eager to help us anymore in our struggle against terror.
Or maybe the international community has had it up to here with the BS of the Bush administration.

Irrelevent. Countries act in what they perceive is in their best interest. That may not agree with US policy. Believe it or not, many did not trust or like Clinton. That too is irrelevent. They still did what they wished.
 

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well, historically europe had its head in the sand until something bit it in the @ss
 

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To answer your question Vespasian, more terrorism may occur, but I doubt the rest of the world really gives a flying you know what.
 

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The rest of international community is likely reluctant to help because they are not targets of the Islamic militant groups/terrorist organizations.

Why make yourself a target by attacking the terrorist organizations? The United States has plenty of resources available to fight their own war on terrorism.
 
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Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
To answer your question Vespasian, more terrorism may occur, but I doubt the rest of the world really gives a flying you know what.
So they couldn't care less if we keep getting hit as long as they themselves don't get hit?
 
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Western Europe seems to be extremely critical of everything we have done and might do in the future. And that makes me very nervous.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: Vespasian
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider To answer your question Vespasian, more terrorism may occur, but I doubt the rest of the world really gives a flying you know what.
So they couldn't care less if we keep getting hit as long as they themselves don't get hit?

Precisely. In fact as has been pointed out, being a supporter of the US may make them a target of the terrorists. Considering the relative ease in which dedicated individuals or organizations can wreak havoc, I believe other countries fear to get too involved.
 

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Originally posted by: Vespasian
Originally posted by: Xerox Man
Why do you think that they aren't eager to help us?
Are you asking me what evidence I have to make such a statement, or are you asking me what I think are the reasons behind their lack of eagerness to help us?

The latter, because I honestly don't understand it. The United States has almost always shown itself to be willing to help other countries around the world - why aren't they willing to return the favor?
 
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Originally posted by: Xerox Man
Originally posted by: Vespasian
Originally posted by: Xerox Man
Why do you think that they aren't eager to help us?
Are you asking me what evidence I have to make such a statement, or are you asking me what I think are the reasons behind their lack of eagerness to help us?

The latter, because I honestly don't understand it. The United States has almost always shown itself to be willing to help other countries around the world - why aren't they willing to return the favor?
I don't know, but besides the French, who are currently helping us train the new Afghan army, all of Western Europe seems suddenly unwilling to lift a finger and have become verbally hostile towards us.
 
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There was this British reporter being interviewed on MSNBC and he said that if the U.S. can bomb the Taliban for harboring and supporting al-Qadea, then Ireland can bomb Boston for supporting the IRA.
 

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Originally posted by: Vespasian
I predict that Islamic terrorist groups will kill many more thousands (perhaps millions) of Americans because the international community doesn't seem eager to help us anymore in our struggle against terror.

What do you think of my prediction?

Well think about what you said for a second and simplify it. It condenses to: Many more of OUR people will die because OTHER countries don't want to help us with OUR problems.

Its a cruel world, and the truth is that only our most die-hard allies have the resources to contribute to an effort that only poses an immediate threat to us, and NOT them. Much like in real life, there are still good-samiritans out there, but we cannot live our lives constantly hoping for their aid; we must help ourselves.
 
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Originally posted by: res1bhmg
Originally posted by: Vespasian
I predict that Islamic terrorist groups will kill many more thousands (perhaps millions) of Americans because the international community doesn't seem eager to help us anymore in our struggle against terror.

What do you think of my prediction?

Well think about what you said for a second and simplify it. It condenses to: Many more of OUR people will die because OTHER countries don't want to help us with OUR problems.

Its a cruel world, and the truth is that only our most die-hard allies have the resources to contribute to an effort that only poses an immediate threat to us, and NOT them. Much like in real life, there are still good-samiritans out there, but we cannot live our lives constantly hoping for their aid; we must help ourselves.
Yeah, but I don't know if we can do it on our own.
 
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It would seem that our so-called allies are actively channeling anger from around the world to the U.S. and Israel. And that is what scares the sh!t out of me.
 

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Originally posted by: Vespasian I don't know, but besides the French, who are currently helping us train the new Afghan army, all of Western Europe seems suddenly unwilling to lift a finger and have become verbally hostile towards us.


Ouch, a French trained army, they'll be tough.

;)
 

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Originally posted by: 0ops
well, historically europe had its head in the sand until something bit it in the @ss


Whereas America was highly vigilent, saw the threat coming, and.......did nothing.


Ah.

 

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ok, granted no one helps the US in their war against terror.

for the last 10 years, India, Israel, UK & Sri Lanka have been fighting terrorists. Did anyone bother about the terrorism in these countries.

Even now, the US support the dictatorship in Pakistan saying that Musharraf is helping them in the war against terror. While this is happening, terrorism is still being sponsored by Pakistan in India. No one cares about it. When the bomb blasts occured in Bombay in 1993, no one gave a fig. Similarly, when the Indian Airlines plane was hijacked & taken to Afghanistan, no other country was bothered to help. Now when India says that it wants to stop terrorism by forceful means, the entire world says no. All we get are platitudes which mean nothing.

Also remember, the US & Pakistan supported the extremist fundamentalism in Afghanistan when the Soviets invaded the country. During the Iran-Iraq war, the US armed Saddam.

This is not meant to be a rant against the US. All I am trying to say is that possibly other countries might be more cautious when it comes to foreign policy dealings of the US. Of course, this article might be taken as a biased one as I am an Indian.
 

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Originally posted by: Vespasian
There was this British reporter being interviewed on MSNBC and he said that if the U.S. can bomb the Taliban for harboring and supporting al-Qadea, then Ireland can bomb Boston for supporting the IRA.

Sure I have no problems with that. But, like the Taliban striking back at the US (in thier own pitifully limited way), the US shall strike back at Ireland. :)
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: whitecloak
ok, granted no one helps the US in their war against terror. for the last 10 years, India, Israel, UK & Sri Lanka have been fighting terrorists. Did anyone bother about the terrorism in these countries. Even now, the US support the dictatorship in Pakistan saying that Musharraf is helping them in the war against terror. While this is happening, terrorism is still being sponsored by Pakistan in India. No one cares about it. When the bomb blasts occured in Bombay in 1993, no one gave a fig. Similarly, when the Indian Airlines plane was hijacked & taken to Afghanistan, no other country was bothered to help. Now when India says that it wants to stop terrorism by forceful means, the entire world says no. All we get are platitudes which mean nothing. Also remember, the US & Pakistan supported the extremist fundamentalism in Afghanistan when the Soviets invaded the country. During the Iran-Iraq war, the US armed Saddam. This is not meant to be a rant against the US. All I am trying to say is that possibly other countries might be more cautious when it comes to foreign policy dealings of the US. Of course, this article might be taken as a biased one as I am an Indian.

Biased? Not in a negative sense. Of course you are correct in stating that terrorism exists and has for some time. Also, the US did not get involved. But as I said earlier, countries do what is in their own best interest. If the US does not get involved with Sri Lanka or wherever, it is because we have nothing to gain.