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[Bulk Beef]

I hate how he tries to diminish the Jewish death to get his own case into the light, i am with him in promoting the knowledge of others deaths, but his Anti-Semitism (and i have asked others not to use that word, but in this case, it is justified) is like a blindfold over his eyes.

If that was his intention, it might have helped his case if he had stated who "his people" were. Did he ever actually do that?

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: NFS4
Apologize for hijacking the thread? Maybe.
Apologize for stating an opinion (even if it's flawed)? You'd have to make 95% of the members on this board apologize for something.

People have expressed similar opinions about blacks and mexicans have been banned over it. Why shouldn't he be banned for his hateful posts?

This is true.

Well, I don't normally take part in those heated discussions, so I wouldn't know 😉

That being said, I don't think he ever came right out and said that he hated Jews or anything like that. I'm not agreeing with anything he said, but reading through that thread, I never really thought about it "his" way before b/c I've only been hearing one side of the story all of these years.

So what points does he really have? how does the killing of others make the killings of 6 million Jews during four years anything less?

I hate how he tries to diminish the Jewish death to get his own case into the light, i am with him in promoting the knowledge of others deaths, but his Anti-Semitism (and i have asked others not to use that word, but in this case, it is justified) is like a blindfold over his eyes.

I cannot agree with him.

Simply because he is wrong.

I didn't know that the death tolls were so great for other countries in WWII, that's one thing. From what I gather about what he's saying, is that yes the Jews were treated atrociously...but history has made us realize that overwhelmingly. Other losses during the war haven't seen so much light (in part due to the sick and vicious murdering of the Jews which makes it more prominent).

Let's put it in a different light. How many Americans know that over 100,000 Africans have been killed in a massive genocide in the Sudan since 2003? With all the spotlight being put on Iraq over the past two years, not many Americans know about this (or care). When the President and John Kerry were asked about it during the presidential debate, they both pretty much glossed over it.

 

[K1052]

I don't think his behavior is ban worthy, but certainly warning was needed.

He seemed upset about the level of attention the deaths of his own people had gotten (whoever they are). However, he failed to realize that it is his responsibility to make people take notice and instead decided to vent on the "Jew activists" for their success.

The fact that this subject can still stir up such strong emotion is proof that the topic remains to be very important to many people. I think these emotions got the better of several people in that thread.

 

[Arkitech]

I don't share his opinions but I will say to his credit he never really resorted to mud flinging and name calling. At least he tried to be civil.

 

[BDawg]

Maybe I missed it, but who are his people, gypsies?

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: SoylentGreen
I'm in agreement with this one.

I thought you were supposed to be banned today since your *Yankees* lost. At least 5 people took up your internet bet (lol).

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: NFS4
Apologize for hijacking the thread? Maybe.
Apologize for stating an opinion (even if it's flawed)? You'd have to make 95% of the members on this board apologize for something.

People have expressed similar opinions about blacks and mexicans have been banned over it. Why shouldn't he be banned for his hateful posts?

This is true.

Well, I don't normally take part in those heated discussions, so I wouldn't know 😉

That being said, I don't think he ever came right out and said that he hated Jews or anything like that. I'm not agreeing with anything he said, but reading through that thread, I never really thought about it "his" way before b/c I've only been hearing one side of the story all of these years.

So what points does he really have? how does the killing of others make the killings of 6 million Jews during four years anything less?

I hate how he tries to diminish the Jewish death to get his own case into the light, i am with him in promoting the knowledge of others deaths, but his Anti-Semitism (and i have asked others not to use that word, but in this case, it is justified) is like a blindfold over his eyes.

I cannot agree with him.

Simply because he is wrong.

I didn't know that the death tolls were so great for other countries in WWII, that's one thing. From what I gather about what he's saying, is that yes the Jews were treated atrociously...but history has made us realize that overwhelmingly. Other losses during the war haven't seen so much light (in part due to the sick and vicious murdering of the Jews which makes it more prominent).

Let's put it in a different light. How many Americans know that over 100,000 Africans have been killed in a massive genocide in the Sudan since 2003? With all the spotlight being put on Iraq over the past two years, not many Americans know about this (or care). When the President and John Kerry were asked about it during the presidential debate, they both pretty much glossed over it.

No, he is blaming *US* (as in the Jews) for the lack of knowledge about others.

I knew about Sudan, do you know about Nigeria?

Let me try to get this through, it is NOT the jews fault that others have died and it makes the holocaust no less than what it is.

But of course, in some peoples minds it is all about the "jewish agenda" that 6 million were killed in four years , has of course nothing to do with that, it is just the Jewish people trying to keep others down.

FFS!

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: NFS4

I didn't know that the death tolls were so great for other countries in WWII, that's one thing. From what I gather about what he's saying, is that yes the Jews were treated atrociously...but history has made us realize that overwhelmingly. Other losses during the war haven't seen so much light (in part due to the sick and vicious murdering of the Jews which makes it more prominent).

Let's put it in a different light. How many Americans know that over 100,000 Africans have been killed in a massive genocide in the Sudan since 2003? With all the spotlight being put on Iraq over the past two years, not many Americans know about this (or care). When the President and John Kerry were asked about it during the presidential debate, they both pretty much glossed over it.

Yes it was glossed over because Sudan doesn't have any natural resources the US can pillage and rape. About the US's only interest would be to set up a military base there, so I guess nobody cares much about it. Politics man.

 

[pyonir]

God dammit fausto. Look what you did! You just started the damn argument in this thread! :|

 

[AnyMal]

I think by "my people" he meant russians with 20mil+ dead. However, he failed to understand that most of the Russians died in combat while the Jews were exterminated, HUGE difference.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: NFS4
I didn't know that the death tolls were so great for other countries in WWII, that's one thing. From what I gather about what he's saying, is that yes the Jews were treated atrociously...but history has made us realize that overwhelmingly. Other losses during the war haven't seen so much light (in part due to the sick and vicious murdering of the Jews which makes it more prominent).

Let's put it in a different light. How many Americans know that over 100,000 Africans have been killed in a massive genocide in the Sudan since 2003? With all the spotlight being put on Iraq over the past two years, not many Americans know about this (or care). When the President and John Kerry were asked about it during the presidential debate, they both pretty much glossed over it.

If the thread was about how the death tolls of other countries wasn't getting enough attention, then I can understand where he was coming from, but he was using an article about a girl's diary being found to spout his anti-semetic views.

It's not even that he says I wish more people would put some attention on mine and other's people instead of just the jews. He goes on to say how the jews only care about themselves and only want others to care about them. He's got this jewish conspiracy mentality that so many people (including the Nazis) seem to have.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: AnyMal
I think by "my people" he meant russians with 20mil+ dead. However, he failed to understand that most of the Russians died in combat while the Jews were exterminated, HUGE difference.

EXACTLY and it is NOT part of the "jewish agenda" to hush about the russians who died.

To die in a war or to be rounded up and exterminated, the difference is huge, anyone can understand that.

 

[maziwanka]

there's a lot of good posts in here about imprezawagon's reponses in that thread. in many ways he is blinded. it is not the jewish activists' responsibility to educate ppl about the other individuals who were killed in the holocaust.

however, i do think that imprezawagon may feel that b/c the jewish activists have such a great global presence that it now becomes their moral obligation to make the world aware of other groups that were killed in the holocaust.

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: AnyMal
I think by "my people" he meant russians with 20mil+ dead. However, he failed to understand that most of the Russians died in combat while the Jews were exterminated, HUGE difference.

EXACTLY and it is NOT part of the "jewish agenda" to hush about the russians who died.

To die in a war or to be rounded up and exterminated, the difference is huge, anyone can understand that.

But it doesn't make the death any less "worthy". I realize the holocaust is more chilling, but if 20 million Russians did die, that's something you can't ignore.

 

[TitanDiddly]

😀

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
😀

WTF?😕

 

[bunker]

Hey Fausto...good job dickhe@d 😉.....here we go again.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: maziwanka
there's a lot of good posts in here about imprezawagon's reponses in that thread. in many ways he is blinded. it is not the jewish activists' responsibility to educate ppl about the other individuals who were killed in the holocaust.

however, i do think that imprezawagon may feel that b/c the jewish activists have such a great global presence that it now becomes their moral obligation to make the world aware of other groups that were killed in the holocaust.

We do recognize other semites being killed in the holocaust, but it is not our thing to fight other peoples battles and we do not ask them to fight ours either.

WWII was a world war, lots of people died in combat, as i have been in battle myself i can honestly say that that is quite different from the holocaust itself, the people were rounded up and exterminated, not because they were the enemy but because they were belived to be lesser people and not worthy to live in the same country as the designed German übermenchen.

The difference is that those who died fighting the Germans were heroes, the Jews killed in the holocaust were victims of racial extermination, a genocide that killed 1/3 of all semitic jews in the world.

 

[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: AnyMal
I think by "my people" he meant russians with 20mil+ dead. However, he failed to understand that most of the Russians died in combat while the Jews were exterminated, HUGE difference.

EXACTLY and it is NOT part of the "jewish agenda" to hush about the russians who died.

To die in a war or to be rounded up and exterminated, the difference is huge, anyone can understand that.

But it doesn't make the death any less "worthy". I realize the holocaust is more chilling, but if 20 million Russians did die, that's something you can't ignore.

Well, they havn't been ignored, in Russia at least. And you're right, any death is a tragedy. Genocide, is of the worst kind since it ususally takes place against defensless people.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: AnyMal
I think by "my people" he meant russians with 20mil+ dead. However, he failed to understand that most of the Russians died in combat while the Jews were exterminated, HUGE difference.

EXACTLY and it is NOT part of the "jewish agenda" to hush about the russians who died.

To die in a war or to be rounded up and exterminated, the difference is huge, anyone can understand that.

But it doesn't make the death any less "worthy". I realize the holocaust is more chilling, but if 20 million Russians did die, that's something you can't ignore.

I don't think anyone claimed it makes the less "worthy". Death is expected in war, discovering that one side used military resources in an attempt systematically murder an entire ethnicity is a little different. The cold efficiency that the Nazis exhibited in carrying out their objective was unprecedented.

I would sure as sh!t choose checking out with a rifle in my hands as opposed the gas chamber.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

As I said a over year ago:

Car + Dumbass + Tree + Brick wall = Car

- M4H

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: AnyMal
I think by "my people" he meant russians with 20mil+ dead. However, he failed to understand that most of the Russians died in combat while the Jews were exterminated, HUGE difference.

EXACTLY and it is NOT part of the "jewish agenda" to hush about the russians who died.

To die in a war or to be rounded up and exterminated, the difference is huge, anyone can understand that.

But it doesn't make the death any less "worthy". I realize the holocaust is more chilling, but if 20 million Russians did die, that's something you can't ignore.

It most definently does not, you are correct there, think about this for a second, the ones who fought the Nazis are considered heroes, the Jews who died in the holocaust are considered victims.

Now riddle me this, WHO are the ones that are defined as having a "less worthy death" in that?

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
As I said a over year ago:

Car + Dumbass + Tree + Brick wall = Car

- M4H

LMAO! :beer:

 

[maziwanka]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: maziwanka
there's a lot of good posts in here about imprezawagon's reponses in that thread. in many ways he is blinded. it is not the jewish activists' responsibility to educate ppl about the other individuals who were killed in the holocaust.

however, i do think that imprezawagon may feel that b/c the jewish activists have such a great global presence that it now becomes their moral obligation to make the world aware of other groups that were killed in the holocaust.

We do recognize other semites being killed in the holocaust, but it is not our thing to fight other peoples battles and we do not ask them to fight ours either.

WWII was a world war, lots of people died in combat, as i have been in battle myself i can honestly say that that is quite different from the holocaust itself, the people were rounded up and exterminated, not because they were the enemy but because they were belived to be lesser people and not worthy to live in the same country as the designed German übermenchen.

The difference is that those who died fighting the Germans were heroes, the Jews killed in the holocaust were victims of racial extermination, a genocide that killed 1/3 of all semitic jews in the world.

i certainly dont disagree with you here. impreza incorrectly places blame on the jewish agenda (its easier for him to cast blame than to try to mobilize his own ppl to educate others) - the same thing happens on a much larger scale with USA all the time...

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: maziwanka

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: maziwanka
there's a lot of good posts in here about imprezawagon's reponses in that thread. in many ways he is blinded. it is not the jewish activists' responsibility to educate ppl about the other individuals who were killed in the holocaust.

however, i do think that imprezawagon may feel that b/c the jewish activists have such a great global presence that it now becomes their moral obligation to make the world aware of other groups that were killed in the holocaust.

We do recognize other semites being killed in the holocaust, but it is not our thing to fight other peoples battles and we do not ask them to fight ours either.

WWII was a world war, lots of people died in combat, as i have been in battle myself i can honestly say that that is quite different from the holocaust itself, the people were rounded up and exterminated, not because they were the enemy but because they were belived to be lesser people and not worthy to live in the same country as the designed German übermenchen.

The difference is that those who died fighting the Germans were heroes, the Jews killed in the holocaust were victims of racial extermination, a genocide that killed 1/3 of all semitic jews in the world.

i certainly dont disagree with you here. impreza incorrectly places blame on the jewish agenda (its easier for him to cast blame than to try to mobilize his own ppl to educate others) - the same thing happens on a much larger scale with USA all the time...

Happens all over the world.

Unfortunantly.