I 0wnz CS (Computer Science) AND Statistics

[Ketteringo]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: bleeb

(if you're worried about the economy, you're in it for the wrong reasons imo),

Uh... you're an idiot if you believe this. I know PLENTY of people in which Computer Science was their life but they are worried about the economy and rightly they should be. They are currently jobless. [These are Stanford, Berkeley graduates]

why aren't they in grad school?

IMHO you don't need grad school for computer science unless you want to teach it. Ideally you should contantly be learning and keeping updated at your job so you wont need that extra 2 years of learning.

 

[acidvoodoo]

if you team kill enough i'm sure some people will leave and they'll be some spots open

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: bleeb

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: bleeb

(if you're worried about the economy, you're in it for the wrong reasons imo),

Uh... you're an idiot if you believe this. I know PLENTY of people in which Computer Science was their life but they are worried about the economy and rightly they should be. They are currently jobless. [These are Stanford, Berkeley graduates]

why aren't they in grad school?

Because I think there comes a point when you make a realization, an epiphany if you will, that the industry SUCKS and sitting in front of the computer all day long isn't cracked up to what it was supposed to be... so they are trying other avenues... lawyers, doctors, etc. I know for a fact these guys LOVE Computer Science and still do... programming since kindergarden, but the economy is tough. And so they're adapting to it.

what is sitting in front of a computer supposed to be? if they really loved it, why don't they go into academia?

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: ANY5546

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: bleeb

(if you're worried about the economy, you're in it for the wrong reasons imo),

Uh... you're an idiot if you believe this. I know PLENTY of people in which Computer Science was their life but they are worried about the economy and rightly they should be. They are currently jobless. [These are Stanford, Berkeley graduates]

why aren't they in grad school?

IMHO you don't need grad school for computer science unless you want to teach it. Ideally you should contantly be learning and keeping updated at your job so you wont need that extra 2 years of learning.

what if you want to do research?

ok i see where you are coming from... some people might love it but not want to do research. eh. ok. but i dunno. i might be naive, but i still think that money will follow your heart.

 

[Ketteringo]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: ANY5546

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: bleeb

(if you're worried about the economy, you're in it for the wrong reasons imo),

Uh... you're an idiot if you believe this. I know PLENTY of people in which Computer Science was their life but they are worried about the economy and rightly they should be. They are currently jobless. [These are Stanford, Berkeley graduates]

why aren't they in grad school?

IMHO you don't need grad school for computer science unless you want to teach it. Ideally you should contantly be learning and keeping updated at your job so you wont need that extra 2 years of learning.

what if you want to do research?

What are you going to research? How to spend $20k a year and not have any income? To do that you should be an econ major...

Seriously though, are you going to develop new programming languages? Or maybe you want to write open source stuff? Or write some shareware?

I really cant see any advantages to going to grad school. You might as well start your own business and do stuff there or just stay home and do it. At least then you dont have to pay tuition!

 

[gopunk]

What are you going to research? How to spend $20k a year and not have any income? To do that you should be an econ major...

Seriously though, are you going to develop new programming languages? Or maybe you want to write open source stuff? Or write some shareware?

I really cant see any advantages to going to grad school. You might as well start your own business and do stuff there or just stay home and do it. At least then you dont have to pay tuition!

well... you can get income from being a TA (free tuition...)... jobs.... all sorts of things. there are people that put themselves through grad school, it is not like it has never been done before.

as for what someone might research, what do they want to research? i'm personally not really interested in developing a new programming language... i was looking at AI, but am now thinking about theory of computation...

and you can do research on your own, but then you don't get to work with all these world renown professors/experts, which makes things more difficult imo. and if you have a company, you have to introduce a certain amount of evil as in, unless you're a huge company like intel or ms, you probably will need to work on research with more short-term benefits than long term. but basic research is very important imo, which is why universities are so important.

 

[Orsorum]

Good job!

Economics is still better (we learn how to manage money, not make it... oh, wait... dammnit! )

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: gopunk
well... you can get income from being a TA (free tuition...)... jobs.... all sorts of things. there are people that put themselves through grad school, it is not like it has never been done before.

as for what someone might research, what do they want to research? i'm personally not really interested in developing a new programming language... i was looking at AI, but am now thinking about theory of computation...

and you can do research on your own, but then you don't get to work with all these world renown professors/experts, which makes things more difficult imo.

Not to mention the "fringe benefits" of being a TA ... just don't be a creepy bastard like the guy in Road Trip.

Oh yes, NS 0wnz CS.

- M4H

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Zakath15
Good job!

Economics is still better (we learn how to manage money, not make it... oh, wait... dammnit! )

i do like economics... 200 and 201 were pretty fun. so many subjects, so little time though. i probably won't even be able to get the math major i wanted, and just settle for a minor.

if you ask me there is more risk to a degree in economics, which translates into more potential reward. like you could be an investment banker or something.... then we'd all have to kiss your ass

you should become the next alan greenspan btw... that would be pretty tight. ATOTers in power!

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: ANY5546

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: bleeb

(if you're worried about the economy, you're in it for the wrong reasons imo),

Uh... you're an idiot if you believe this. I know PLENTY of people in which Computer Science was their life but they are worried about the economy and rightly they should be. They are currently jobless. [These are Stanford, Berkeley graduates]

why aren't they in grad school?

IMHO you don't need grad school for computer science unless you want to teach it. Ideally you should contantly be learning and keeping updated at your job so you wont need that extra 2 years of learning.

what if you want to do research?

ok i see where you are coming from... some people might love it but not want to do research. eh. ok. but i dunno. i might be naive, but i still think that money will follow your heart.

you break way to easily.

 

[gopunk]

you break way to easily.

i don't like confrontations, what can i say

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: gopunk

you break way to easily.

i don't like confrontations, what can i say

womyn

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: gopunk
well... you can get income from being a TA (free tuition...)... jobs.... all sorts of things. there are people that put themselves through grad school, it is not like it has never been done before.

as for what someone might research, what do they want to research? i'm personally not really interested in developing a new programming language... i was looking at AI, but am now thinking about theory of computation...

and you can do research on your own, but then you don't get to work with all these world renown professors/experts, which makes things more difficult imo.

Not to mention the "fringe benefits" of being a TA ... just don't be a creepy bastard like the guy in Road Trip.

Oh yes, NS 0wnz CS.

- M4H

i'm not sure about the "fringe benefits" of being a TA in a subject like computer science though unless we're thinking of different "fringe benefits" (i've never seen road trip )

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: gopunk

you break way to easily.

i don't like confrontations, what can i say

womyn

bah, i prefer the term "testosterone-challenged male"

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: Zakath15
Good job!

Economics is still better (we learn how to manage money, not make it... oh, wait... dammnit! )

i do like economics... 200 and 201 were pretty fun. so many subjects, so little time though. i probably won't even be able to get the math major i wanted, and just settle for a minor.

if you ask me there is more risk to a degree in economics, which translates into more potential reward. like you could be an investment banker or something.... then we'd all have to kiss your ass

you should become the next alan greenspan btw... that would be pretty tight. ATOTers in power!

I'm thinking about taking a summer session at the London School of Economics this summer... seems like it'd be fun.

And, yes, I've thought about the potential of working for the Fed...

 

[ElDonAntonio]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1

Originally posted by: gopunk
i hate you all

Yeah, yeah... As long as you still like Counter Strike

ROTFLMAO!!!

 

[SCSIfreek]

Originally posted by: ANY5546

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
And another vote for Counter Strike

" "

I was about to type my way in Counter Strike as well!!!! only to realize its about damn Computer Science anyways, congratz!!!! Keep up the good work. fire in the hole!!!!


--Scsi

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: gopunk

What are you going to research? How to spend $20k a year and not have any income? To do that you should be an econ major...

Seriously though, are you going to develop new programming languages? Or maybe you want to write open source stuff? Or write some shareware?

I really cant see any advantages to going to grad school. You might as well start your own business and do stuff there or just stay home and do it. At least then you dont have to pay tuition!

well... you can get income from being a TA (free tuition...)... jobs.... all sorts of things. there are people that put themselves through grad school, it is not like it has never been done before.

as for what someone might research, what do they want to research? i'm personally not really interested in developing a new programming language... i was looking at AI, but am now thinking about theory of computation...

and you can do research on your own, but then you don't get to work with all these world renown professors/experts, which makes things more difficult imo. and if you have a company, you have to introduce a certain amount of evil as in, unless you're a huge company like intel or ms, you probably will need to work on research with more short-term benefits than long term. but basic research is very important imo, which is why universities are so important.

Who do you consider world renown professors/experts? Are we talking someone like Knuth, or more like someone who spent 20 years of their life studying computational linguistics with little to show for it?

To me, the experts are the likes of someone like Don Box, James Gosling, etc.. They don't spend their days studying esoteric algorithms of computational neuroethology, but they design protocols like SOAP

So seriously... are you wanting to do research in academia, or otherwise? Many of the more salient members of the development "community" are indeed independent researches.

 

[gopunk]

Who do you consider world renown professors/experts? Are we talking someone like Knuth, or more like someone who spent 20 years of their life studying computational linguistics with little to show for it?

To me, the experts are the likes of someone like Don Box, James Gosling, etc.. They don't spend their days studying esoteric algorithms of computational neuroethology, but they design protocols like SOAP

So seriously... are you wanting to do research in academia, or otherwise? Many of the more salient members of the development "community" are indeed independent researches.

i don't think i expressed myself very well... what i meant was that grad school is preferable (well, at least for me) to doing independant research straight out of undergrad, because i'm not convinced that i will have the knowledge/experience to get as far in my research as i could if i was working with these world renown professors/experts. i am certainly not dissing independant research... i HOPE i can reach the point where i am good enough to do that effectively some day.

as for what i want to do research in, i really don't know. but as i said earlier, probably something in AI or theory of computation... and where that leads me, i don't know either. maybe i'll get a job in academia, or maybe i'll work on research for a company (like microsoft research, or those intel lablets). i really haven't had exposure to enough material to really know what i want to get into.

as for whom i consider to be experts... *shrug* anybody that is really good at what they do...

 

[Orsorum]

Haha, dude, you were in 321?

You meet a guy named Kyle McClellan? White dude, curly hair, 5'10" or so?

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Zakath15
Haha, dude, you were in 321?

You meet a guy named Kyle McClellan? White dude, curly hair, 5'10" or so?

hmm i don't think so... what section was he in? i really only talked to people i already knew or this one guy that sat next to me, and he was not 5'10

 

[novon]

Cool, I just finished the CSE 458 Computer Animation class at the U of W, I'll put up a link to the final project animation soon. It's a year long course

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: novon
Cool, I just finished the CSE 458 Computer Animation class at the U of W, I'll put up a link to the final project animation soon. It's a year long course

cool! are you in the dept? or did you come from art or music?

 

[Aquaman]

Do you know this Dude? I meet him at a wedding this past summer. Very Interesting fellow

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Aquaman
Do you know this Dude? I meet him at a wedding this past summer. Very Interesting fellow

Cheers,
Aquaman

can't say i do... i've seen his webpage before, just poking around. fatalbo might though.