Hyundai Genesis Outscores Competitors,

[Shlong]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Yongsta

Originally posted by: DVad3r
Ya I don't trust Korean vehicles, I think they should stick to Starcraft.

Have you purchased anything from Samsung or LG yet? They were once seen in a low light but have surpassed their Japanese counterparts (bigger than Sony and Toshiba). Remember that people didn't trust Toyota, Honda or when Nissan was Datsun, etc.

I've seen Samsung get better over the past 10 years. I will wait another 10-15 years before I buy a Samsung product. Yes, I'm that picky when it comes to quality. I'm the type of person that expects something to last for years, not break down right after the warranty expires. Certain companies have earned my trust, some have not. I'm also the type of person that will curse out customer service if they can't find a reasonable solution when their product breaks down. From what I've heard about Hyundai, they play hardball with their warranty obligations. Not worth the hassle.

If you look at reliability stats from 2002 and on (Consumer Reports) Hyundai is just as reliable as Honda / Toyota and in recent years is even better than the latter. And on J.D. Powers and Associates Initial Quality Testing, Hyundai beats both.

 

[PingSpike]

My Hyundai has been pretty good, but I haven't had it for very long. The base model sure was loaded up with shit though.

I don't have any experience with 35K cars though, I'm too cheap for that.

That company is hungry for your business though, which is more then I can say for Toyota...who has dealers that will piss in your face and then act like they were doing you a favor.

 

[Chunkee]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

That company is hungry for your business though, which is more then I can say for Toyota...who has dealers that will piss in your face and then act like they were doing you a favor.[/q]

This is correct, as well as most GM dealers around here..guess they are not hurting as much as the propaganda...most here act like you are lucky to walk on the lot.

fuggem

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Yongsta

Originally posted by: DVad3r
Ya I don't trust Korean vehicles, I think they should stick to Starcraft.

Have you purchased anything from Samsung or LG yet? They were once seen in a low light but have surpassed their Japanese counterparts (bigger than Sony and Toshiba). Remember that people didn't trust Toyota, Honda or when Nissan was Datsun, etc.

I've seen Samsung get better over the past 10 years. I will wait another 10-15 years before I buy a Samsung product. Yes, I'm that picky when it comes to quality. I'm the type of person that expects something to last for years, not break down right after the warranty expires. Certain companies have earned my trust, some have not. I'm also the type of person that will curse out customer service if they can't find a reasonable solution when their product breaks down. From what I've heard about Hyundai, they play hardball with their warranty obligations. Not worth the hassle.

FWIW, and I realize this is purely anecdotal, but I've had more trouble with brands like Sony (had an XBR 32" TV that failed repeatedly) than with others. Hyundai has vastly improved. I'd easily compare their quality to say Nissan or GM, and above VW, Dodge, and Mitsubishi.

 

[KDKPSJ]

Originally posted by: Shlong

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Yongsta

Originally posted by: DVad3r
Ya I don't trust Korean vehicles, I think they should stick to Starcraft.

Have you purchased anything from Samsung or LG yet? They were once seen in a low light but have surpassed their Japanese counterparts (bigger than Sony and Toshiba). Remember that people didn't trust Toyota, Honda or when Nissan was Datsun, etc.

I've seen Samsung get better over the past 10 years. I will wait another 10-15 years before I buy a Samsung product. Yes, I'm that picky when it comes to quality. I'm the type of person that expects something to last for years, not break down right after the warranty expires. Certain companies have earned my trust, some have not. I'm also the type of person that will curse out customer service if they can't find a reasonable solution when their product breaks down. From what I've heard about Hyundai, they play hardball with their warranty obligations. Not worth the hassle.

If you look at reliability stats from 2002 and on (Consumer Reports) Hyundai is just as reliable as Honda / Toyota and in recent years is even better than the latter. And on J.D. Powers and Associates Initial Quality Testing, Hyundai beats both.

Initial Quality Study? Yes.
Vehicle Dependability Study (Done after 3 years of ownership)? No.

Hyundai was ranked 7th place in 2004 IQS by J.D Power with 102 (116 industry average). Guess what? With those same 2004 MY cars, Hyundai was ranked 21st place in 2007 VDS with 228 (216 industry average), while Toyota & Honda were still on top. It got slightly better as in 2005 IQS, it was @ 11th, and yet in 2008 VDS, it was @ 13th. It only went down 2 and topping industry avg, but its competitors still outscored Hyundai.

IQS in 2006, Hyundai beat Toyota & Honda, but that was only year. 2007, Hyundai was lower, 2008, Hyundai was lower. And let's wait until 2009 VDS is available to see if Hyundai was able to keep up its 3rd place with its glorious 2006 MY cars.

As much as I don't believe in J.D Power, I wouldn't easily assume Hyundai as reliable.

 

[theeedude]

OK, I finally saw one on the street. To me it looked like one of those generic luxury cars I saw on my trip to China. Just a bunch of styling elements from other cars lumped together with no coherent theme. Aside from the Benz ripoff grille, it looked like a giant Kia Optima.
Hyundai will have to develop its own brand identity before it can be taken seriously as anything other than a poor man's fill in the blank luxury car.

 

[Aikouka]

The Maxima is a quick car, but it doesn't add much over the less costly Nissan Altima overall.

That's why I own an Altima over a Maxima 😛. Only thing a Maxima could've provided was a heated steering wheel, a lateral moon roof and rear bucketed seats. But the technology package for the Maxima only gave it a rear sonar rather than my Altima's back up camera.

For thousands less with the same options, it's an obvious choice ( not to mention the Altima felt more spacious and I'm fairly tall).

 

[SandEagle]

Originally posted by: freegeeks
It's still a Hyundai in the end, brand name is everything in this segment

hyundai needs to seriously rebrand itself or come out with a luxury line that doesn't have the cheap H insignia. It screams out "hey, its all I could afford'. wtf is hyundai's marketing department doing these days?

 

[LS8]

I like the new Genesis but pending one of these hot new Buicks shows up in the next few years I'll be buying one of them instead.