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Hyundai Genesis Outscores Competitors,

Genesis narrowly outpoints Lexus ES 350 to take top spot

YONKERS, N.Y., Jan. 5 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The Hyundai Genesis outscored four competitors to become Consumer Reports top-rated vehicle in the competitive "Upscale Sedan" category. The Genesis, which achieved an "Excellent" overall road test score, now outranks 12 vehicles from Lexus, Acura, Lincoln and others including the Lexus ES 350.

The Genesis' performance in CR's battery of tests solidifies the automaker's reputation as a builder of high-quality vehicles in several diverse automotive segments. Previously, Consumer Reports named two Hyundais, the Elantra and Santa Fe, as "Top Pick" vehicles in the small sedan and midsize SUV categories respectively.

"The Hyundai Genesis rivals high-end luxury sedans but costs considerably less," said David Champion, senior director of Consumer Reports' Auto Test Center in East Haddam, Connecticut. "Its luxurious and spacious interior and quietness far transcend its relatively modest price."

The Genesis was tested against four other new or redesigned upscale sedans -- the Acura TL, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8 and Lincoln MKS -- for the February issue of Consumer Reports. Prices ranged from $33,660 for the Pontiac to $40,880 for the Lincoln.

Two other vehicles in the test group also earned Excellent overall road test scores, the TL and Maxima. The G8 and MKS achieved Very Good overall scores.

The eight other vehicles in the Upscale Sedans category including the ES 350, Toyota Avalon, Buick Lucerne and Saab 9-5, were all tested previously.

In addition to the five upscale sedans tested, CR also purchased and tested the Jaguar XF luxury sedan. Though it obtained a Very Good overall score, it still ranked near the bottom of the group of 12 luxury sedans that Consumer Reports has rated.

But the redesigned Honda Pilot has slipped from being one of Consumer Reports' top-rated three-row SUVs to midpack. The Pilot now ranks eleventh out of seventeen midsized, three-row SUVs that have been tested by CR.

Full tests and ratings of all six sedans appear in the February issue of Consumer Reports, which goes on sale January 6. The reports are also available to subscribers of www.ConsumerReports.org. (Road test vehicles of recently tested vehicles are also available free at CR's web site.)

The issue also contains a report on the conversion of a hybrid Toyota Prius to a plug-in hybrid. Consumer Reports chose a Hymotion L5 conversion kit sold by A123 Systems, which the company claims can yield more than 100 mpg. Fuel economy in CR's converted Prius jumped from 42 to 67 mpg overall for the first 35 miles of driving. At almost $11,000, the plug-in conversion clearly won't save consumers money overall. However, the technology itself proved viable.

The TL is the only vehicle in this month's test group that is Recommended by Consumer Reports. CR only Recommends vehicles that have performed well in its tests, have at least average predicted reliability based on CR's annual Car Reliability Survey of its more than seven million print and web subscribers, and performed at least adequately if crash-tested or included in a government rollover test.

CR doesn't have reliability data yet on the Genesis, MKS, Maxima, G8 and XF.

Spacious and well appointed, the rear-wheel-drive Genesis offers good value and is a compelling alternative to luxury vehicles costing thousands more. This car's forte is swaddling passengers in silence. The engine sounds polished and road noise is strikingly absent. The interior rivals those of the very best luxury cars, with its optional stitched-leather dashboard facing and consistently high-quality materials. The only real drawback is its ride, which can be unsettled at times and doesn't live up to the standards set by other luxury cars. The Genesis 3.8 ($36,000 Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price as tested) is powered by a 290-hp, 3.8-liter V6 that feels quick and smooth and delivers a decent 21 mpg in CR's own fuel-economy tests. The six-speed automatic transmission provides smooth, quick shifts. Braking is excellent.

The redesigned Acura TL is a nice car, with responsive handling, a slick powertrain and commendable fuel economy. But when compared with the previous TL, which was CR's Top Pick in this segment for years, the latest generation is not as impressive. Vague steering saps the fun out of its handling, the trunk opening is small, and other competitors have roomier rear seats. The base-model TL ($35,715 MSRP as tested) is powered by a 280-hp, 3.5-liter V6 that delivers excellent acceleration and a respectable 23 mpg overall on premium fuel. The five-speed automatic transmission is both quick and smooth. Brakes are excellent overall.

The Maxima is a quick car, but it doesn't add much over the less costly Nissan Altima overall. While it's pleasant, it falls short in some ways. Handling is responsive, but at low speeds the steering is overly light. The car is quiet and the ride is decent. But the new coupe-like silhouette compromises visibility, trunk room, and rear-seat comfort. The Maxima 3.5 SV ($33,700 MSRP as tested) is powered by a 290-hp, 3.5-liter V6 that gives the car quicker acceleration than some V8s. Expect 22 mpg overall on premium fuel. The continuously variable transmission works very well overall; it's also the only one available. The Maxima's brakes are very good overall.

As a bargain sports sedan that can challenge the performance of models from BMW and Mercedes, Pontiac's G8 is a success. It handles and rides as well as the best cars in its class. The G8 GT's acceleration is very impressive, with a zero-to-sixty time of 5.7 seconds. But the downside of that is poor fuel economy -- at just 17 mpg overall on regular fuel. The G8 GT ($33,660 MSRP as tested) is powered by a huge 361-hp, 6.0-liter V8 engine that makes it blisteringly quick. The smooth six-speed automatic transmission with a tall sixth gear makes highway cruising relaxed. The brakes are very good overall. (A 256-hp, 3.6-liter V6 with a five-speed automatic is also available in the base G8, but CR didn't test it because a more powerful V6 with a six-speed automatic will arrive in 2010.)

In the tradition of large domestic luxury cars, Lincoln's MKS is built for pampering, not for spirited driving. Handling lacks agility, and the engine is too noisy for a car in this class. The interior amenities and finishes are pleasant, but the MKS feels too much like the Ford Taurus, on which it is based, to justify its luxury price tag. The MKS ($40,880 MSRP as tested) is equipped with a 273-hp, 3.7-liter V6 engine that performs well, but is not as quick or smooth as its competition in this class. CR measured its fuel economy at just 20 mpg overall on regular, which is not impressive. The six-speed automatic transmission is not as slick as most in this class. Brakes are very good overall.

With more than 7 million print and online subscribers, Consumer Reports is one of the most trusted sources for information and advice on consumer products and services. It conducts the most comprehensive auto-test program of any U.S. publication or Web site; the magazine's auto experts have decades of experience in driving, testing, and reporting on cars. To become a subscriber, consumers can call 1-800-234-1645. Information and articles from the magazine can be accessed online at www.ConsumerReports.org.

FEBRUARY 2009

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I don't really care what Consumer Reports thinks. I think they should stick with reviewing toasters and cheap boring cars like the Corolla, Civic, Fit, Camry, Accord, etc.
 
Did they test the G37/G35? Or does that belong in the 'Entry Level Luxury' class so its not comparable?
 
Seems like it really depends on what a buyer is looking for. The Maxima and G8 GT are marketed for 'performance.'

It'd be interesting if the Koreans come out with a sports sedan.
 
Originally posted by: Naustica
I don't really care what Consumer Reports thinks. I think they should stick with reviewing toasters and cheap boring cars like the Corolla, Civic, Fit, Camry, Accord, etc.

😕 Have you priced a loaded Camry or Accord?

 
Nothing impressive, to be honest.

Genesis aimed $ 40-50k luxury sedan (E class, 5 series, GS) as a performance/quality competitor since its development, which means it has to be better than any other sub-$ 40k sedans. Then it was priced like sub-$ 40k luxury sedan, because, well, it's Hyundai.

Considering Hyundai's reputation, you have two choices for pricing and quality: 1. Make same quality car as $ 50k car from other reputable brands but price it like $ 40k car, or 2. Make $ 40k car as high quality as $ 50k car. Yes, they are same thing, just matter of focusing on quality or price. $ 10k difference is obviously a lot, but you will never buy Hyundai as luxury car if there's at least that much difference, let's be honest on that. I mean, even as econobox, you are expecting Hyundai to be cheaper at least few grand than others, right? Are you going to buy fully-loaded Sonata V6 for $ 30k (close to Accord/Camry fully loaded)?

That's what Hyundai has to win from the buyers, brand reputation. I am sure Genesis will be a huge step towards it, but I am really disappointed they brought Genesis as Hyundai brand in US. They should've brought it as Genesis-brand (the emblem looks like Aston Martin & Bentley, looks a lot better!).
 

Genesis aimed $ 40-50k luxury sedan (E class, 5 series, GS) as a performance/quality competitor since its development, which means it has to be better than any other sub-$ 40k sedans. Then it was priced like sub-$ 40k luxury sedan, because, well, it's Hyundai.

This. Why wouldn't they compare it to the models that Hyundai is going after? Is it any surprise that it beats out the TL Maxima G8 and Lucerne? Consumer Reports FTL!~
 
Originally posted by: freegeeks
It's still a Hyundai in the end, brand name is everything in this segment

Perhaps it was, but it's been selling very well here in D/FW. I pop in on the Hyundai dealer in Plano (rich area) once in a while to bug them about the Genesis coupe, and they rarely have any Genesis Sedans in stock.
 
I have yet to see one in CA. They should ditch the Benz grill and develop their own brand identity, otherwise they will continue to be thought of as ripoff designs.
 
You mean, barely outpoints a Camry for top spot. Hmm, now where is that "what car should I buy from my brother?" thread? haha
 
Originally posted by: senseamp
I have yet to see one in CA. They should ditch the Benz grill and develop their own brand identity, otherwise they will continue to be thought of as ripoff designs.

Yeap. I live near SF and I have yet to see one. I've seen a Tesla but no Genesis.
 
Let's see how reliable it is first. All the other manufacturers have a track record to analyze. This Genesis is too new.
 
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: senseamp
I have yet to see one in CA. They should ditch the Benz grill and develop their own brand identity, otherwise they will continue to be thought of as ripoff designs.

Yeap. I live near SF and I have yet to see one. I've seen a Tesla but no Genesis.

I've seen 3 or 4 Genesis sedans in the South Bay and a couple of Teslas too.
 
Good price, never seen one. I'd question its long term durability, since it's meaningfully separate from what Hyundai is used to making.
 
Originally posted by: mc866

Genesis aimed $ 40-50k luxury sedan (E class, 5 series, GS) as a performance/quality competitor since its development, which means it has to be better than any other sub-$ 40k sedans. Then it was priced like sub-$ 40k luxury sedan, because, well, it's Hyundai.

This. Why wouldn't they compare it to the models that Hyundai is going after? Is it any surprise that it beats out the TL Maxima G8 and Lucerne? Consumer Reports FTL!~

Except they managed to do it at TL, Maxima, G8, and Lucerne pricing. Which makes it a perfectly valid comparison, because that is where people are going to be cross-shopping. Who wouldn't want a vehicle that could compete in E class territory at TL pricing?

Viper GTS
 
"Let's see how reliable it is first. All the other manufacturers have a track record to analyze. This Genesis is too new."




Having been an auto tech for over 30 yrs now, (mostly with high end cars like
Volvo, Lexus), I can tell you that it's highly unlikely for any car company who's previously made poor quality cars (IMHO) to suddenly make a great, high quality car that will stand the test of time in terms of durability.

For what that car costs, I can think of many new cars that I'd buy first, cars that have a proven reputation of quality,dependability and durability.
 
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Ya I don't trust Korean vehicles, I think they should stick to Starcraft.

Have you purchased anything from Samsung or LG yet? They were once seen in a low light but have surpassed their Japanese counterparts (bigger than Sony and Toshiba). Remember that people didn't trust Toyota, Honda or when Nissan was Datsun, etc.
 
Originally posted by: Yongsta
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Ya I don't trust Korean vehicles, I think they should stick to Starcraft.

Have you purchased anything from Samsung or LG yet? They were once seen in a low light but have surpassed their Japanese counterparts (bigger than Sony and Toshiba). Remember that people didn't trust Toyota, Honda or when Nissan was Datsun, etc.

I've seen Samsung get better over the past 10 years. I will wait another 10-15 years before I buy a Samsung product. Yes, I'm that picky when it comes to quality. I'm the type of person that expects something to last for years, not break down right after the warranty expires. Certain companies have earned my trust, some have not. I'm also the type of person that will curse out customer service if they can't find a reasonable solution when their product breaks down. From what I've heard about Hyundai, they play hardball with their warranty obligations. Not worth the hassle.
 
I'd never buy a Hyundai. Somehow I have that mental image of those shitty cars they made long ago which prevents me from ever buying one.
 
Lexus LS400 was in the same position 20 years ago. People were like 40k for a Toyota? Hell no. Now it outsells S-Classes and 7 series.

Just give it some time. I am not someone who solely judge a car by its brand reputation. I have to admit, 35k for a Genesis is a spetacular deal for the amount of standard features you get.

Find me one full sized sedan with 300+hp RWD, leather, nav, moonroof, heated everything for less than 35k.

 
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