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Hypothetical "eye for an eye" world?

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
...person i.e. actual physical violations of a persons body that the standard of punishment will
be an"eye for an eye". If a killer murders someone and is found guilty he/she will be executed in the same fashion he/she used to kill their victim (at least as near as possible to the method used by killer). If someone assaults and beats somebody they will in turn be equally beaten and so on. I think you get the point.

So a woman is attacked by a rapist and he overpowers her and forces vaginal intercourse on her and leaves her. She suffers bruising and minor injuries but nothing that is permanent physically. What "eye for an eye" punishment is appropriate for this crime? And is it sufficient punishment?
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What if said female victim gets pregnant? How you gonna knock the guy up?

Mayhaps she should get an abortion, and the "eye-for-eye" justice is that the rapist gets aborted as well?
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She doesn';t get pregnant. The gut wore a rubber. Whatever. She doesn't get pregnant or contact any disease.
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You're changing the rules. In said world... my question for you is in the case that the perp raped the victim and got her pregnant... would would be the fitting punishment? (Aside from child support)

You have to take your hypotheticals all the way and not just apply it to one situation.
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If the woman wants she can abort the child or keep it as her own. And then the question still remains what is an appropriate "eye for an eye" punishment for the rape?


 
IMO if you commit a violent crime that affects someone's life forever (rape, brutal murder, etc), then you should get the death penalty. There's no point in trying to rehabilitate such people. There could be exceptions for minors, though, as they can usually still be taught differently.

I rather like the idea of public whippings and such for robbers and other scum of that sort. Gun crimes should get death penalties to curtail gun violence in inner cities.

Prison should also never be a place where gangs can coordinate and have control. Any suggested gang activity should be dealt with swiftly and harshly on a no-tolerance basis.

Yeah, I'm for harsh/draconian punishment. It seems to be the only thing some people understand.
 
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
IMO if you commit a violent crime that affects someone's life forever (rape, brutal murder, etc), then you should get the death penalty. There's no point in trying to rehabilitate such people. There could be exceptions for minors, though, as they can usually still be taught differently.

I rather like the idea of public whippings and such for robbers and other scum of that sort. Gun crimes should get death penalties to curtail gun violence in inner cities.

Prison should also never be a place where gangs can coordinate and have control. Any suggested gang activity should be dealt with swiftly and harshly on a no-tolerance basis.

Yeah, I'm for harsh/draconian punishment. It seems to be the only thing some people understand.
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You think a woman being raped has suffered as much as someone who has been "brutally murdered".
 
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
...person i.e. actual physical violations of a persons body that the standard of punishment will
be an"eye for an eye". If a killer murders someone and is found guilty he/she will be executed in the same fashion he/she used to kill their victim (at least as near as possible to the method used by killer). If someone assaults and beats somebody they will in turn be equally beaten and so on. I think you get the point.

So a woman is attacked by a rapist and he overpowers her and forces vaginal intercourse on her and leaves her. She suffers bruising and minor injuries but nothing that is permanent physically. What "eye for an eye" punishment is appropriate for this crime? And is it sufficient punishment?
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What if said female victim gets pregnant? How you gonna knock the guy up?

Mayhaps she should get an abortion, and the "eye-for-eye" justice is that the rapist gets aborted as well?
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She doesn';t get pregnant. The gut wore a rubber. Whatever. She doesn't get pregnant or contact any disease.
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You're changing the rules. In said world... my question for you is in the case that the perp raped the victim and got her pregnant... would would be the fitting punishment? (Aside from child support)

You have to take your hypotheticals all the way and not just apply it to one situation.
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If the woman wants she can abort the child or keep it as her own. And then the question still remains what is an appropriate "eye for an eye" punishment for the rape?
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And what would the punishment for forcibly impregnating the woman be? See, this is a double-standard. Most women would feel getting pregnant from a rape is a crime, it's forced upon them with no choice of their own. Their attacker should have to be accountable for it just as they should be accountable for the rape - regardless of whether the woman keeps or aborts.
 
Originally posted by: ManyBeers

You think a woman being raped has suffered as much as someone who has been "brutally murdered".
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More, since they're still alive to remember the experience.
 
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: darkxshade
castration
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She didn't suffer any permanent physical injury why should he?
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Mental injuries...
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All victims of physical crime suffer mental injuries.
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Then castration seems appropriate no? Esp. if it's done with dull used razors.
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No. Why should the perp suffer permanent physical damage in this "eye for an eye" world when he caused no permanent physical damage?
 
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
IMO if you commit a violent crime that affects someone's life forever (rape, brutal murder, etc), then you should get the death penalty. There's no point in trying to rehabilitate such people. There could be exceptions for minors, though, as they can usually still be taught differently.

I rather like the idea of public whippings and such for robbers and other scum of that sort. Gun crimes should get death penalties to curtail gun violence in inner cities.

Prison should also never be a place where gangs can coordinate and have control. Any suggested gang activity should be dealt with swiftly and harshly on a no-tolerance basis.

Yeah, I'm for harsh/draconian punishment. It seems to be the only thing some people understand.
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You think a woman being raped has suffered as much as someone who has been "brutally murdered".
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Living a life in hell versus not having to worry about what will happen every time you turn around? I think in the living world the raped woman will be far worse off than someone brutally murdered.
 
Originally posted by: ManyBeers

No. Why should the perp suffer permanent physical damage in this "eye for an eye" world when he caused no permanent physical damage?
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Because he caused major (permanent) emotional damage.
 
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: ManyBeers

You think a woman being raped has suffered as much as someone who has been "brutally murdered".
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More, since they're still alive to remember the experience.
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If they choose to do so.
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Are you just trolling now or what? Do you really think somebody can just "turn off" that memory?

If you got fucked in the ass with a giant fucking broom that left "no permanent physical damage" you better damn well believe you'll remember that shit forever.
 
Originally posted by: ManyBeersNo. Why should the perp suffer permanent physical damage in this "eye for an eye" world when he caused no permanent physical damage?
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You're just being an idiot because you already know there's no exact "eye for an eye" punishment in this case so no matter what we say you're just going to find some way to refute the punishment.
 
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: ManyBeers

No. Why should the perp suffer permanent physical damage in this "eye for an eye" world when he caused no permanent physical damage?
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Because he caused major (permanent) emotional damage.
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Well that isn't really measurable in our"eye foe an eye" world. So again what is an appropriate "eye for an eye" punishment.
 
Originally posted by: darkxshade
Originally posted by: ManyBeersNo. Why should the perp suffer permanent physical damage in this "eye for an eye" world when he caused no permanent physical damage?
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You're just being an idiot because you already know there's no exact "eye for an eye" punishment in this case so no matter what we say you're just going to find some way to refute the punishment.
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Well, there is an eye for an eye punishment.

He has to be raped, but he has to be overpowered and surprised. This way he won't know if he's being punished, or if some dude just decided to fucking raping him.

He should not be told it is his punishment until he reports it to the police.
 
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: ManyBeers

No. Why should the perp suffer permanent physical damage in this "eye for an eye" world when he caused no permanent physical damage?
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Because he caused major (permanent) emotional damage.
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Well that isn't really measurable in our"eye foe an eye" world. So again what is an appropriate "eye for an eye" punishment.
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Then the answer to your question is a mother fucking empty set.


*facepalm*
 
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: ManyBeers

You think a woman being raped has suffered as much as someone who has been "brutally murdered".
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More, since they're still alive to remember the experience.
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If they choose to do so.
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Are you just trolling now or what? Do you really think somebody can just "turn off" that memory?

If you got fucked in the ass with a giant fucking broom that left "no permanent physical damage" you better damn well believe you'll remember that shit forever.
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No I am not trolling. Don't equate murder with rape , as they are not even close to being the same thing.

Fortunately in our current civilized world we don't practice "eye for an eye" justice. And it is a good thing we don't. If we did I submit that the incidence of forcible rape might be much higher than it is,.
 
Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Fortunately in our current civilized world we don't practice "eye for an eye" justice. And it is a good thing we don't. If we did I submit that the incidence of forcible rape might be much higher than it is,.
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Only using your retarded ass definition of eye for an eye.
 
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: ManyBeers

No. Why should the perp suffer permanent physical damage in this "eye for an eye" world when he caused no permanent physical damage?
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Because he caused major (permanent) emotional damage.
Click to expand...

Well that isn't really measurable in our"eye foe an eye" world. So again what is an appropriate "eye for an eye" punishment.
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Then the answer to your question is a mother fucking empty set.


*facepalm*
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Indeed. The OP has no concept for "eye-for-an-eye" apparently.
 
Originally posted by: SunnyD

Indeed. The OP has no concept for "eye-for-an-eye" apparently.
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Only a retarded one where emotional damage isn't taken into consideration.
 
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Fortunately in our current civilized world we don't practice "eye for an eye" justice. And it is a good thing we don't. If we did I submit that the incidence of forcible rape might be much higher than it is,.
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Only using your retarded ass definition of eye for an eye.[/q
You have a better definition i suppose.
In another post a woman was blinded and now wants the perp blinded and that was his sentence. So that is literally " eye for an eye".
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