Hypocrisy

XMan

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
12,513
49
91
I pulled up behind a Jeep Grand Cherokee tonight at a stoplight. On the left side of the bumper, "Kerry/Edwards 2004", on the right side, "Vote for the Environment".

:Q
 

T2T III

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
12,899
1
0
I still like the cars with the Kerry/Edwards stickers right next to the NRA stickers. :)

 

umbrella39

Lifer
Jun 11, 2004
13,816
1,126
126
Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
I still like the cars with the Kerry/Edwards stickers right next to the NRA stickers. :)

Why? Kerry/Edwards going to take away my guns? Nope. I am a Kerry supporter and a member of the NRA. I believe in the death penalty and the right for a woman to choose. I am a devout catholic and distrust in general organized religion. Not everything is black and white to democrats.
 

XMan

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
12,513
49
91
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
I still like the cars with the Kerry/Edwards stickers right next to the NRA stickers. :)

Why? Kerry/Edwards going to take away my guns? Nope. I am a Kerry supporter and a member of the NRA. I believe in the death penalty and the right for a woman to choose. I am a devout catholic and distrust in general organized religion. Not everything is black and white to democrats.

That 15 MPG the Cherokee gets in the city is pretty black and white . . . hehe.
 

1EZduzit

Lifer
Feb 4, 2002
11,833
1
0
The most hypocritcal thing I can think of is to run up a record $422 billion budget deficit and still have fewer jobs then when you started spending the money. Oh, don't forget about the tax cut for the wealthy, LMAO!!
:laugh:
 

Hossenfeffer

Diamond Member
Jul 16, 2000
7,462
1
0
Well, it could be worse, they could be driving one of those tow-truck base trucks that gets 6-7 mpg.

Given that 25mpg or so is generally considered "good", I wouldn't exactly jump on somebody driving a cherokee.

*shrug*
 

dahunan

Lifer
Jan 10, 2002
18,191
3
0
Compassionate Conservative <<--- two words that can never be put side by side
 

SickBeast

Lifer
Jul 21, 2000
14,377
19
81
McBain's fuel economy in his SUV is 1 highway, 0 city, so I suppose this guy was an environmentalist in comparison.

The OP shoulda taken a photo. It would have become one of those internet "cult classics". :cookie:
 

Siwy

Senior member
Sep 13, 2002
556
0
0
My friend has a 98 Jeep Cherokee and he is an environment nut. The thing though is that his Jeep runs on natural gas and it is more environment friendly than 1.6L Honda Civic.

There is no way of telling that a car runs on natural gas...well... unless you put "Vote for the Environment" sticker on :)
 

Hossenfeffer

Diamond Member
Jul 16, 2000
7,462
1
0
Originally posted by: Siwy
My friend has a 98 Jeep Cherokee and he is an environment nut. The thing though is that his Jeep runs on natural gas and it is more environment friendly than 1.6L Honda Civic.

There is no way of telling that a car runs on natural gas...well... unless you put "Vote for the Environment" sticker on :)

It'll become the new "Type-R" sticker ;) guaranteed to up your MPG by 5-6
 

CycloWizard

Lifer
Sep 10, 2001
12,348
1
81
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Why? Kerry/Edwards going to take away my guns? Nope. I am a Kerry supporter and a member of the NRA. I believe in the death penalty and the right for a woman to choose. I am a devout catholic and distrust in general organized religion. Not everything is black and white to democrats.
Amazing. You and Kerry both - you're Catholic, but profess things that Catholics don't believe in on a very deep level. Maybe you can reconcile these beliefs for me then - how can you be Catholic and believe in abortion?
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
The most hypocritcal thing I can think of is to run up a record $422 billion budget deficit and still have fewer jobs then when you started spending the money. Oh, don't forget about the tax cut for the wealthy, LMAO!!
:laugh:
That deficit is for 2004? How many jobs have we lost in 2004? -1.3 million I believe? Next.
 

jetaime

Banned
Sep 11, 2004
85
0
0
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
The most hypocritcal thing I can think of is to run up a record $422 billion budget deficit and still have fewer jobs then when you started spending the money. Oh, don't forget about the tax cut for the wealthy, LMAO!!
:laugh:

Tax cut for the wealthy? Keep telling yourself that and just maybe one day it'll become true. Fact is EVERYBODY had a tax cut but some people only see partisan campaign ads and eat it all up.
 

Genesys

Golden Member
Nov 10, 2003
1,536
0
0
Originally posted by: Hossenfeffer
Originally posted by: Siwy
My friend has a 98 Jeep Cherokee and he is an environment nut. The thing though is that his Jeep runs on natural gas and it is more environment friendly than 1.6L Honda Civic.

There is no way of telling that a car runs on natural gas...well... unless you put "Vote for the Environment" sticker on :)

It'll become the new "Type-R" sticker ;) guaranteed to up your MPG by 5-6

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

thx for the laugh man, i needed it! :beer:
 

T2T III

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
12,899
1
0
Originally posted by: jetaime
There seems to be so much misinformation from the left.

Welcome to P&amp;N and most importantly, welcome to Anandtech. Your comments are appreciated. However, keep in mind the political ratio under the P&amp;N section is approximately:

85% Democrat / 15% Republican

No matter how hard you try, you will still be out-numbered and you will get called names by the liberal folks in an attempt to put you down and make you feel bad.

Enjoy your stay at AT. :)

 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
54,889
47
91
www.alienbabeltech.com
Originally posted by: jetaime
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
The most hypocritcal thing I can think of is to run up a record $422 billion budget deficit and still have fewer jobs then when you started spending the money. Oh, don't forget about the tax cut for the wealthy, LMAO!!
:laugh:

Tax cut for the wealthy? Keep telling yourself that and just maybe one day it'll become true. Fact is EVERYBODY had a tax cut but some people only see partisan campaign ads and eat it all up.

Originally posted by: jetaime
There seems to be so much misinformation from the left.

:cookie:

Who were you before being banned???
 

Zephyr106

Banned
Jul 2, 2003
1,309
0
0
Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Originally posted by: jetaime
There seems to be so much misinformation from the left.

Welcome to P&amp;N and most importantly, welcome to Anandtech. Your comments are appreciated. However, keep in mind the political ratio under the P&amp;N section is approximately:

85% Democrat / 15% Republican

No matter how hard you try, you will still be out-numbered and you will get called names by the liberal folks in an attempt to put you down and make you feel bad.

Enjoy your stay at AT. :)

Hahhaha you wouldn't recognize the true left if they hit you in the head. Your so far right you think anyone near moderation is a leftist.

Zephyr
 

Mursilis

Diamond Member
Mar 11, 2001
7,756
11
81
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Why? Kerry/Edwards going to take away my guns? Nope. I am a Kerry supporter and a member of the NRA. I believe in the death penalty and the right for a woman to choose. I am a devout catholic and distrust in general organized religion. Not everything is black and white to democrats.
Amazing. You and Kerry both - you're Catholic, but profess things that Catholics don't believe in on a very deep level. Maybe you can reconcile these beliefs for me then - how can you be Catholic and believe in abortion?

It's easy - same way I just point to my dog and say he's a cat! He's my pet, so I can decide what kind of pet he is. Now if only I can teach him to say meow . . .
 

jman19

Lifer
Nov 3, 2000
11,225
664
126
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Why? Kerry/Edwards going to take away my guns? Nope. I am a Kerry supporter and a member of the NRA. I believe in the death penalty and the right for a woman to choose. I am a devout catholic and distrust in general organized religion. Not everything is black and white to democrats.
Amazing. You and Kerry both - you're Catholic, but profess things that Catholics don't believe in on a very deep level. Maybe you can reconcile these beliefs for me then - how can you be Catholic and believe in abortion?
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
The most hypocritcal thing I can think of is to run up a record $422 billion budget deficit and still have fewer jobs then when you started spending the money. Oh, don't forget about the tax cut for the wealthy, LMAO!!
:laugh:
That deficit is for 2004? How many jobs have we lost in 2004? -1.3 million I believe? Next.

Hasn't Kerry said many times before that he doesn't believe in abortion, but that he won't force his beliefs in that religious matter upon the people?
 

Zephyr106

Banned
Jul 2, 2003
1,309
0
0
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Why? Kerry/Edwards going to take away my guns? Nope. I am a Kerry supporter and a member of the NRA. I believe in the death penalty and the right for a woman to choose. I am a devout catholic and distrust in general organized religion. Not everything is black and white to democrats.
Amazing. You and Kerry both - you're Catholic, but profess things that Catholics don't believe in on a very deep level. Maybe you can reconcile these beliefs for me then - how can you be Catholic and believe in abortion?

It's easy - same way I just point to my dog and say he's a cat! He's my pet, so I can decide what kind of pet he is. Now if only I can teach him to say meow . . .

Well I think these mixed signals are very bad. Because for a while we've been telling Muslims they shouldn't listen to clerics who preach hate America, and ignore the Koran because it is evil and the word of Satan, now we say everyone must toe their religion's line or they're a hypocrite?

Zephyr
 

Mursilis

Diamond Member
Mar 11, 2001
7,756
11
81
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Why? Kerry/Edwards going to take away my guns? Nope. I am a Kerry supporter and a member of the NRA. I believe in the death penalty and the right for a woman to choose. I am a devout catholic and distrust in general organized religion. Not everything is black and white to democrats.
Amazing. You and Kerry both - you're Catholic, but profess things that Catholics don't believe in on a very deep level. Maybe you can reconcile these beliefs for me then - how can you be Catholic and believe in abortion?
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
The most hypocritcal thing I can think of is to run up a record $422 billion budget deficit and still have fewer jobs then when you started spending the money. Oh, don't forget about the tax cut for the wealthy, LMAO!!
:laugh:
That deficit is for 2004? How many jobs have we lost in 2004? -1.3 million I believe? Next.

Hasn't Kerry said many times before that he doesn't believe in abortion, but that he won't force his beliefs in that religious matter upon the people?

So why doesn't he feel the same way about murder generally? The Bible clearly mentions murder as prohibited, so isn't that just a religious matter with which the government should not be involved? And how about drug use and prostitution? Since those involve only consenting adults, why is he still determined government prohibit those activities as well? Or has he gone libertarian and I missed the update?
 

Mursilis

Diamond Member
Mar 11, 2001
7,756
11
81
Originally posted by: Zephyr106
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Why? Kerry/Edwards going to take away my guns? Nope. I am a Kerry supporter and a member of the NRA. I believe in the death penalty and the right for a woman to choose. I am a devout catholic and distrust in general organized religion. Not everything is black and white to democrats.
Amazing. You and Kerry both - you're Catholic, but profess things that Catholics don't believe in on a very deep level. Maybe you can reconcile these beliefs for me then - how can you be Catholic and believe in abortion?

It's easy - same way I just point to my dog and say he's a cat! He's my pet, so I can decide what kind of pet he is. Now if only I can teach him to say meow . . .

Well I think these mixed signals are very bad. Because for a while we've been telling Muslims they shouldn't listen to clerics who preach hate America, and ignore the Koran because it is evil and the word of Satan, now we say everyone must toe their religion's line or they're a hypocrite?

Zephyr

It has nothing to do with that, and I'm not suggesting Kerry or anyone is wrong to practice religion with their eyes and minds open. However, as one Catholic Bishop once joked, the difference between a Protestant and a dissident Catholic is integrity. If Kerry has major problems with the Catholic Church (and he clearly does), he (and the Kennedys) should end the silly charade and find a nice Protestant church more in line with his personal beliefs. Except it's not politically expedient to do that in MA.
 

jman19

Lifer
Nov 3, 2000
11,225
664
126
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Why? Kerry/Edwards going to take away my guns? Nope. I am a Kerry supporter and a member of the NRA. I believe in the death penalty and the right for a woman to choose. I am a devout catholic and distrust in general organized religion. Not everything is black and white to democrats.
Amazing. You and Kerry both - you're Catholic, but profess things that Catholics don't believe in on a very deep level. Maybe you can reconcile these beliefs for me then - how can you be Catholic and believe in abortion?
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
The most hypocritcal thing I can think of is to run up a record $422 billion budget deficit and still have fewer jobs then when you started spending the money. Oh, don't forget about the tax cut for the wealthy, LMAO!!
:laugh:
That deficit is for 2004? How many jobs have we lost in 2004? -1.3 million I believe? Next.

Hasn't Kerry said many times before that he doesn't believe in abortion, but that he won't force his beliefs in that religious matter upon the people?

So why doesn't he feel the same way about murder generally? The Bible clearly mentions murder as prohibited, so isn't that just a religious matter with which the government should not be involved? And how about drug use and prostitution? Since those involve only consenting adults, why is he still determined government prohibit those activities as well? Or has he gone libertarian and I missed the update?

Some of us believe there is a difference between the actions you mentioned and abortion. To most people, drug use, prostitiution, and murder are immoral actions, regardless of the fact that religion tells us they're wrong. Whether abortion is equal to those actions as immoral behavior is not so clear cut.
 

Mursilis

Diamond Member
Mar 11, 2001
7,756
11
81
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Why? Kerry/Edwards going to take away my guns? Nope. I am a Kerry supporter and a member of the NRA. I believe in the death penalty and the right for a woman to choose. I am a devout catholic and distrust in general organized religion. Not everything is black and white to democrats.
Amazing. You and Kerry both - you're Catholic, but profess things that Catholics don't believe in on a very deep level. Maybe you can reconcile these beliefs for me then - how can you be Catholic and believe in abortion?
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
The most hypocritcal thing I can think of is to run up a record $422 billion budget deficit and still have fewer jobs then when you started spending the money. Oh, don't forget about the tax cut for the wealthy, LMAO!!
:laugh:
That deficit is for 2004? How many jobs have we lost in 2004? -1.3 million I believe? Next.

Hasn't Kerry said many times before that he doesn't believe in abortion, but that he won't force his beliefs in that religious matter upon the people?

So why doesn't he feel the same way about murder generally? The Bible clearly mentions murder as prohibited, so isn't that just a religious matter with which the government should not be involved? And how about drug use and prostitution? Since those involve only consenting adults, why is he still determined government prohibit those activities as well? Or has he gone libertarian and I missed the update?

Some of us believe there is a difference between the actions you mentioned and abortion. To most people, drug use, prostitiution, and murder are immoral actions, regardless of the fact that religion tells us they're wrong. Whether abortion is equal to those actions as immoral behavior is not so clear cut.

Perhaps it's not clear cut to you, but anyway . . .
So if most people think something's wrong or right, is that sufficient justification to authorize gov't to ban such an action? If I think it's just wrong for today's teenagers to put those big silly wings on the back of their cars, can I get it banned by the government if I can get my neighbors to agree with me? What if I think it's wrong to practice Islam? To watch porn? Do I just need a majority to get those banned?