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Hypnosis

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Jfrag Teh Foul

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I am a skeptic, but have had friends that I would deem total control freaks that have been "put under" with witnesses to attest. Thoughts or experiences?
 
It's true, scientificially proven. But therse no such thing as hypnotizing people to go kill someone. You're merely more susceptible to persuasion, but you wont violate your basic values
 
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
It's definitely true. Anyone who claims it's false needs to educate themselves before just putting it off.
Even the the skeptics dictionary says it's real.
<- read the professional hypnotism manual and hypnotized himself.
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Care to ellaborate on self-hypnotism? What was it like? What was the reason? Relaxation... Focus? Not disbelieving you, just curious. As I said, I am a skeptic, not a naysayer.
 
Self hypnotism is a bit different than if someone else hypnotized you, because you still have some control of your concious mind. But you are still hypnotized, which by definition means you open up your subconcious mind. Thus self-hypnotism is a great tool to condition your habits. Helps me sleep at night 🙂
 
i don't believe you can hyptonize somebody to think they are a chicken or something

but for less extremely purposes maybe... i voted no though assuming you were talking about the former
 
Originally posted by: dighn
i don't believe you can hyptonize somebody to think they are a chicken or something

but for less extremely purposes maybe... i voted no though assuming you were talking about the former
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Yep you can't, because they don't know what it's like to be a chicken. But what you could do is say, you are at a party where everyone is doing a chicken dance, and you love doing the chicken dance. Then he will start doing the chicken dance 😉
 
Originally posted by: Mo0o
It's true, scientificially proven. But therse no such thing as hypnotizing people to go kill someone. You're merely more susceptible to persuasion, but you wont violate your basic values
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Depends on how you define basic values... There have been cases of the hypnotist telling girls he had hypnotized that he was their bf and they were alone, and thus got them to perform oral sex on him... Those guys have been sued for rape once those girls found out what had happened.

The moment you take suggestions to be the truth you can let them think they are holding a fake pistol, are playing a game, and that they should pretend to be shooting someone. Thus it is theoretically possible to have a hypnotized person kill someone, but not the way you see in movies.
 
Yep if you're smart enough, you can basically think of a way to get them to do anything. You also have to understand the patient's type of suggestibility, literal/inferential.
 
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Originally posted by: Mo0o
It's true, scientificially proven. But therse no such thing as hypnotizing people to go kill someone. You're merely more susceptible to persuasion, but you wont violate your basic values
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Depends on how you define basic values... There have been cases of the hypnotist telling girls he had hypnotized that he was their bf and they were alone, and thus got them to perform oral sex on him... Those guys have been sued for rape once those girls found out what had happened.

The moment you take suggestions to be the truth you can let them think they are holding a fake pistol, are playing a game, and that they should pretend to be shooting someone. Thus it is theoretically possible to have a hypnotized person kill someone, but not the way you see in movies.
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You will never do something under hypnosis that you won't do in real life.

You would still stick to your basic morals and ethics under hypnosis. Those will be actively monitored by the hidden observer under hypnosis.

So those girls are actually sluts. Being under hypnosis just gave them an acceptable channel to defer responsibility. And you would only kill someone under hypnosis if it was acceptable action to you outside of hypnosis.

This is coming from my psychology professor. Who has been a certified and actively practicing hypnotherapy for the last 27 years.

Mo0o is 100% correct.
 
hypnosis rocks! I quit tobacco this way after all other efforts had failed. It was the best $150 I have ever spent.
 
I've been to shows before and have had people I know get chosen from the audience to go up on stage. Defeinlty not fake. Some people try to fake it at things like that but it's not all fake.
 
Originally posted by: MantisFistMonk
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Originally posted by: Mo0o
It's true, scientificially proven. But therse no such thing as hypnotizing people to go kill someone. You're merely more susceptible to persuasion, but you wont violate your basic values
Click to expand...

Depends on how you define basic values... There have been cases of the hypnotist telling girls he had hypnotized that he was their bf and they were alone, and thus got them to perform oral sex on him... Those guys have been sued for rape once those girls found out what had happened.

The moment you take suggestions to be the truth you can let them think they are holding a fake pistol, are playing a game, and that they should pretend to be shooting someone. Thus it is theoretically possible to have a hypnotized person kill someone, but not the way you see in movies.
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You will never do something under hypnosis that you won't do in real life.

You would still stick to your basic morals and ethics under hypnosis. Those will be actively monitored by the hidden observer under hypnosis.

So those girls are actually sluts. Being under hypnosis just gave them an acceptable channel to defer responsibility. And you would only kill someone under hypnosis if it was acceptable action to you outside of hypnosis.

This is coming from my psychology professor. Who has been a certified and actively practicing hypnotherapy for the last 27 years.

Mo0o is 100% correct.
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Not true. The point of hypnosis is to enter the subconcious mind, that stores all the morals, ethics, and habits, and to to change them. Hypnosis is used for that purpose. So you can condition the girl to be a slut with hypnosis and get her to do sexual favors for you.
This is comming from a hypnotist that has a doctorate and wrote several books about hypnosis.
 
I am also a skeptical person about this. I have never been hypnotized. However, back when I was in school they had someone come in and hypnotize several of the students. He told them to do all sorts of awckward and crazy things. I can't say whether it was actually real or not, one person came back saying they knew what was going on the whole time, which wouldn't be hypnotism, would it?

I would like to hear from someone who says they have been hypnotized.
 
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Not true. The point of hypnosis is to enter the subconcious mind, that stores all the morals, ethics, and habits, and to to change them. Hypnosis is used for that purpose. So you can condition the girl to be a slut with hypnosis and get her to do sexual favors for you.
This is comming from a hypnotist that has a doctorate and wrote several books about hypnosis.
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What is this Doctors name?

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From the San Diego Hypnosis Center

Hypnosis is a state of 100% consent. If at any time you want to emerge from that state, for any reason, you will instantly and naturally, open your eyes and become fully alert. No one can keep you in Hypnosis against your will.

Geoffrey J N Knight
M.A., Ll.M., DCH DHP

Member of:
National Guild of Hypnotists
Oregon Hypnotherapy Association

Master of Arts and Master of Laws (Cambridge University)
Diploma in Clinical Hypnotherapy
Diploma in Hypnotherapy and Psychotherapy (U.K.)

Hollywood notwithstanding, any suggestion contrary to your inner convictions will either be ignored by you, or you will come out of the hypnotic state.

Rowan Peacock is a Certified NeuroLinguistic Hypnotherapist, Certified NeuroLinguistic Coach and Energy Psychology Specialist. My NeuroLinguistic Hypnotherapy and Coaching certification training was received at Bennett/Stellar University (recognized by the Professional Board of Hypnotherapy, the National Guild of Hypnotists, and The Society of NeuroLinguistic Programming). My college education consists of a Bachelor's Degree in Business and Communication, and post-graduate work in psychology & the cognitive sciences.

Study after study has shown that people in a trance state will not act at odds with their moral code. You will be aware in a trance state and you will be able to make judgments as to which suggestions to accept. Only suggestions that you do not reject will be accepted.

Yet another source...

Fact: Under hypnosis, you will not commit an anti-social act, nor behave in any manner contrary to your moral principles. You have the power to accept or reject any suggestion. According to Dr. Roy Dorcus, Professor of Psychology at UCLA, "A hypnotized subject is never in anyone else's power. The subject cannot be hypnotized against their will, and will not accept suggestions unless they are in agreement. The subject can waken at anytime they desire."

I think you get the point.
 
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