Hyper-V

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Did you pay for this yourself? That is insane for home!
Anyways what kind of VMs do you plan on running on it? Are you hosting for people?

No, its a work machine, I just work primarily from home so the equipment comes here and goes into the rack.

How are you going to configure the VMs? How much ram? Looks like with 50 VMs about 2GB each?

With memory overcomit (darn you hyperv) I could probably run double that. This will wind up with about 60 vm's mixed between 768meg and 4gig. 2gig will probably be the rough average.

If you can keep me informed. Curious to see how Windows 2008 performs\Handles that kind of workload.

Will do, only have 6 vm's running so far (been doing p2v against my Vmware server images, was simpler than v2v and dealing with the scsi issue). When I get back from my next trip I get to start building the library and tackling templates in scvmm

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: TheStu
So you think that in 4-5 years 24 core systems with 128GB RAM will be affordable? I certainly hope so! Admittedly, with DDR2-800 currently running at ~$10/GB, then 128GB of RAM is not obscenely expensive really, especially not when you consider how anytime something new comes out, there will be a person that will regale you with how much they spent on significantly less (the $300 I spent on 1GB of DDR-400 back in '04 is an example, or the $100 160GB hard drive at the same time).

So, the real question is, are we really thinking that systems will even begin to 'need' that kind of hardware? I mean, Vista and 7 can run just fine on a dual core with 2GB-4GB RAM, I really would start to be afraid if OS X and Windows needed much more than a Quad core and say 8-16GB of RAM in that amount of time. Even the RAM amount is pushing it in my mind.

That thing could support media transcoding and streaming for an entire hotel. Wow.

 

[sxr7171]

Edited: Question was answered already.

 

[amddude]

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: amddude
Don't install a real display driver

Not sure I followed you on that... so, huh?

Try installing a manufacturer supplied display driver for your video card and watch what happens.

Hyper-V is great other than that.

 

[Praetor]

Wow, I'm jealous!

Where do you live and do you plan on going on vacation any time soon?

 

[bsobel]

Try installing a manufacturer supplied display driver for your video card and watch what happens.

Yea, wasnt planning on installing any non HCL certified drivers for awhile, too many folks are 'getting used to' dealing with virtualization issue in their driver stack.

 

[RedBeard]

Isn't your disk I/O your real bottle neck here?
That is the limitation I always run into. (at least more so than ram/cpu)

 

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: RedBeard
Isn't your disk I/O your real bottle neck here?
That is the limitation I always run into. (at least more so than ram/cpu)

Depending on the work loads, for much of my testing I can throw IO into a ram drive (albeit, at the expense of the # of vms). I setup 5 1tb drives on the system, mirrored the boot volume and will use the others to spread io around the best I can.

 

[LikeLinus]

What do you do for a living and what do you use this machine for?!?

 

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus
What do you do for a living and what do you use this machine for?!?

I'm the chief architect on the Symantec corporate anti-malware products, I moved over to the role in January.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus
What do you do for a living and what do you use this machine for?!?

Now you know what kind of hardware is required to run new versions of Symantec software.... :evillaugh;

 

[Modelworks]

That is a nice setup.
I'm stuck with a lowly 16 cores and 64GB ram.
Just when you think you are on the leading edge

 

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry

Originally posted by: LikeLinus
What do you do for a living and what do you use this machine for?!?

Now you know what kind of hardware is required to run new versions of Symantec software.... :evillaugh;

And a troll comment from our resident troll, what a surprise.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: LikeLinus
What do you do for a living and what do you use this machine for?!?

I'm the chief architect on the Symantec corporate anti-malware products, I moved over to the role in January.

Interesting. Good luck in your new role!

I admit I did laugh at what Larry says. I use Symantec though!

 

[Jeff7181]

This is pretty awesome... I hope this is the future of business computing. Dumb terminals remoting into a powerful VM server.

 

[bsobel]

So I get the following PM from tfinch2

Please let me know how many VMs you get running before Hyper-V BSODs.

A buddy of mine who sits across from me at work was consistently getting VM and hypervisor BSODs running some VMmark workloads on Hyper-V: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlLPmWwzHzM

Well, if you look into the video you'll find it was created by Vmware. The Microsoft respose is here http://blogs.technet.com/virtualization/ So tfinch2 happens to have a buddy who ran into this... Oh wait, did tfinich2 ackowledge originally he worked for Vmware? Not surprisigly no... He did admit to it after being asked.

This kind of behaviour is disgusting but makes me happy that I know Mendel enough to comment on this next time I run into him...

Bill

 

[Genx87]

Ouch

 

[tfinch2]

Marking my spot to address this thread later.

EDIT: When I sent the original PM to bsobel, I did not do it as a VMware employee. I try to separate my work life and this message board, which is why I did not feel that I needed to mention it up front. After the fact, he asked, so I answered. Looking back, I did come off as a bit of a jackass with the way I worded the original message, but I was genuinely curious (and still am). Either way, prior to knowing what bsobel posted in this thread, when he responded negatively to me in PM I sincerely apologized.