Unless a node is particularly bad, most chips shouldn't need more than two bins. That may not seem like a lot, but if you have three separate dies, that's 6 different products. AIBs can do OC models with faster VRAM to fill in any gaps.
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Unless a node is particularly bad, most chips shouldn't need more than two bins. That may not seem like a lot, but if you have three separate dies, that's 6 different products. AIBs can do OC models with faster VRAM to fill in any gaps.
Hail The Brain Slug
Diamond Member
I haven't seen any AIB use faster ram than reference on a card since the 1080ti FTW3 Elite 8 years ago.
I think (based on what someone here years ago had said, so I don't know for sure) that NVidia/AMD sell the VRAM along with the GPU to ensure that the AIBs all meet minimum specifications. I guess that has the consequence of preventing them from releasing more exotic card models as well.
Unless they're contractually prohibited from using faster VRAM there's theoretically nothing preventing them from doing it other than the headache of having to buy that faster VRAM and sell the extra regular VRAM they have.
The AIBs probably don't care as it means they don't have to compete against each other on VRAM speeds and if they care they can always bin the VRAM they do get to find the top 10% that pairs with a top 10% GPU to produce the much more expensive factory OC card that tends to feature in many lineups.
Prices are higher than they out to be, but if the $600 MSRP holds it's a good value 1440p card.
Nothing comes close in the same price class unless you can find a good deal on last gen hardware which was largely snatched up when everyone realized a few months ago how low the Blackwell stock was or an MSRP 5070 which is so non-existent you can't even buy an FE card.
I'd like it even more at $550, but I'm not entirely sure that this card will be able to hold MSRP. I won't stay up trying to buy one but if I can walk in and buy one at $600 this weekend, I'll be tempted.
Nothing comes close in the same price class unless you can find a good deal on last gen hardware which was largely snatched up when everyone realized a few months ago how low the Blackwell stock was or an MSRP 5070 which is so non-existent you can't even buy an FE card.
I'd like it even more at $550, but I'm not entirely sure that this card will be able to hold MSRP. I won't stay up trying to buy one but if I can walk in and buy one at $600 this weekend, I'll be tempted.
a very interesting card:
AnandThenMan
Diamond Member
AMD right now
marees
Platinum Member
Did AMD decline discount vouchers for white color !!??
marees
Platinum Member
Purchase links for US & UK
www.eurogamer.net
Where to buy AMD RX 9070 XT: UK/US links and prices
Here's where you can find AMD's hotly-anticipated mid-range GPU for the new generation - the RX 9070 XT.
www.eurogamer.net
marees
Platinum Member
If you plan to buy, then act immediately. Do not delay
blackangus
Senior member
I am. (Hopefully)
Yeah, good luck with that. At least the first of the major Canadian retailers (Canada Computers) dropped their stock just after midnight. No MSRP models available online, with a couple units available per physical store. Most models are in the US$740-850 range.
We'll see what other retailers actually have, but so far the MSRP 9070 XT seems as mythical as the MSRP 5070 Ti.
Microcenter in north jersey has 1 Steel Legend in stock at MSRP
www.microcenter.com
1 Gigabyte Gaming OC at MSRP
www.microcenter.com
Fairly good stock at $730 and up. Check your local store if you live near one.
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Fairly good stock at $730 and up. Check your local store if you live near one.
GodisanAtheist
Diamond Member
Microcenter in north jersey has 1 Steel Legend in stock at MSRP
1 Gigabyte Gaming OC at MSRPASRock AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT Steel Legend Triple Fan 16GB GDDR6 PCIe 5.0 Graphics Card - Micro Center
Get it now! With the integrated ARGB LEDs, you can create your own unique colorful light effects which can also be switched on and off. It can also be synchronized with your ASRock motherboards that support Polychrome SYNC.
Gigabyte AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming Overclocked Triple Fan 16GB GDDR6 PCIe 5.0 Graphics Card - Micro Center
Get it now! The WINDFORCE cooling system delivers exceptional thermal performance through a combination of cutting-edge technologies. It features server-grade thermal conductive gel, innovative Hawk fans with alternate spinning, composite copper heat pipes, a large vapor chamber, 3D active fans...
Fairly good stock at $730 and up. Check your local store if you live near one.
-If I was MC I'd say I had exactly 1 MSRP card in stock and then when people show up say "whups... turns out we can't actually find it *in the back* but we do have these $750 cards..."
And people will buy them, esp if they drove for hours.
Back in the day when I worked in Microcenter's BYOPC department I saw this... coincidentally happen... a few times when super popular new CPUs launched and everyone wanted to buy the CPU/MOBO combo...
100/100 times it was staff deliberately hiding a model they wanted to buy at the end of their shift/when the blackout period was up.
I checked a few other stores in NY and they had multiple in stock. I wouldn't drive any longer than about an hour to pick one up. At least MC has them in stock and lists the isle where it's located.
GodisanAtheist
Diamond Member
I admit it will be sort of humorous if people would rather just quit PC gaming until Blackwell is back in stock than actually buy for real on the shelves AMD GPUs that are competitive and fairly priced.
Sort of underlines the whole reason AMD just bailed out of the high end.
Sort of underlines the whole reason AMD just bailed out of the high end.
I was willing to spend $650 on a 9070XT. Looking at pcpartpicker (no 9070 prices), Blackwell has quite a way to drop before I'd even thin about that. The 5070Ti is around $1200 - even the 4070Ti Super is higher at $1300.
I am kind of thinking screw PC gaming, when are new consoles coming. The board partners selling one model (in limited quantities) at MSRP while marking up the rest $120 or more is crazy.
AnandThenMan
Diamond Member
AMD will never have a 24 GB version of this new generation, correct? If so buh bye AMD forever I need the RAM.
There's been some speculation about a 32 GB model at a presumed monster premium.
gdansk
Diamond Member
Not unless they have 3GB GDDR7. But they could do 32GB. Going from 16GB to the next step up costs $1400 (or more) for new GPUs so they could find a niche there if they are quick.
But it won't do anything for gamers.
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