I'm quite happy with my MSI GF4 Ti4400, but I guess it boils down to bundle. The Siluro looks appealing if you don't care about included software (this MSI has 9 cds of stuff...dvd, video editing, 3 full games, PC CILLIN (2000)?!) Since I'm making use of a lot of it, it was worth it for me. If not I'd say the Siluro.