Hunters legal defense fund?

[pcgeek11]

He, like the rest of the cons, just cannot conceive of an idea that liberals believe if someone breaks the law they should be held accountable…party affiliation be damned, unlike cons. Blows their freaking smooth brained minds.

See there is the rub.

I saw a news article about Hunter and his legal team are considering putting together a legal defense fund to pay for his defense. I asked what others thought about it and if they thought Dad should express any thoughts and what... That's it.

I didn't make any claims about his guilt or innocence, he hasn't even been charged with anything other than being a dead beat Dad. I only referenced the well known and undeniable fact of his piss poor life choices.

And now here we are with everybody bringing up Trump and how I defended him and how I made donations to Trump's defense fund (A complete lie ).

But it is obvious that nobody is allowed to discuss anything that disagrees with the echo chamber here. But please feel free to continue ranting and making up lies...

 

[pcgeek11]

There is a couple of inception points I dont understand regarding "Hunters Laptop".

Before anything else, why is it legal? I mean, if it is indeed Hunters laptop ... Is there not privacy laws in place? Why the fuck has the laptop not been returned to its rightful owner?
I saw Matt Gaetz speak in congress where he stated something along the lines of "I have the laptop". Ok?
Whats the legal on this laptop getting turned over to Rudy -> Tucker Carlson -> 100 other people?
If Hunters dick pics actually made it onto the interwebs as a consequence, does Hunter not have a massive lawsuit angle here? Against the shop guy? Rudy? Gaetz?

When you turn your property over to a technician to repair it you have to sign a waiver that if you do not pick it up and pay the bill then after XX number of days the property changes ownership to the repair technician in payment for his services.

That is what happened here. Hunter didn't pay for the repairs and did not show up to retrieve his property. Time expired and it no longer belongs to Hunter. It became the property of the repair shop owner. He then gave it to the authorities and ... due to the information he found on his newly acquired property. It used to belong to Hunter, but he doesn't get a say so after it changed ownership.

Very much the same as a pawn shop.

 

[cytg111]

When you turn your property over to a technician to repair it you have to sign a waiver that if you do not pick it up and pay the bill then after XX number of days the property changes ownership to the repair technician in payment for his services.

That is what happened here. Hunter didn't pay for the repairs and did not show up to retrieve his property. Time expired and it no longer belongs to Hunter. It became the property of the repair shop owner. He then gave it to the authorities and ... due to the information he found on his newly acquired property. It used to belong to Hunter, but he doesn't get a say so after it changed ownership.

Very much the same as a pawn shop.

That cant possibly be true. I mean I get the hardware part.
But the *DATA* on it? That magically becomes the shops property as well? Game that out a few times, I am sure we can all agree thats fucking absurd.

But lets carry on with the absurd.
He takes a peek at the data. Naughty boy. Non the less he does. He finds some shit and turns it over the the feds. Ok.

How the hell does Rudy get a copy? Of Hunters erect cock?

If this is by the book in the US then your data privacy laws are severely fucked.

 

[Pohemi]

When you turn your property over to a technician to repair it you have to sign a waiver that if you do not pick it up and pay the bill then after XX number of days the property changes ownership to the repair technician in payment for his services.

That is what happened here. Hunter didn't pay for the repairs and did not show up to retreive his property. Time expired and it no longer belongs to Hunter. It became the property of the repair shop owner.

I agree with all of this, with the assumption that everything preceding it is true (that it's indeed Hunter's laptop that he dropped off there, etc.)

He then gave it to the authorities due to the information he found on his newly aquired property.

Did he though? And why does property ownership include the data?

If they were actual government authorities (police, investigators, FBI, etc.), then how did other people claim to have the physical laptop? How did others supposedly have the emails, dick pics, and whatever else was supposed to be on there?

This thing went 17 different directions with too many conflicting stories among co-conspirators to believe any of them now, no matter the truth. I'll believe no one but official investigators at this point.

EDIT: looks like @cytg111 beat me to it lol

 

[pcgeek11]

That cant possibly be true. I mean I get the hardware part.
But the *DATA* on it? That magically becomes the shops property as well? Game that out a few times, I am sure we can all agree thats fucking absurd.

But lets carry on with the absurd.
He takes a peek at the data. Naughty boy. Non the less he does. He finds some shit and turns it over the the feds. Ok.

How the hell does Rudy get a copy? Of Hunters erect cock?

If this is by the book in the US then your data privacy laws are severely fucked.

Totally legal. Hunter signed his ownership over when HE ALLOWED the time to expire. He obviously didn't care about his data.

The data belonged to the shop owner and he gave it to whoever he wanted.

 

[cytg111]

Totally legal. Hunter signed his ownership over when HE ALLOWED the time to expire. He obviously didn't care about his data.

The data belonged to the shop owner and he gave it to whoever he wanted.

I refuse to believe this is legal.
So if there was a bitcoin wallet on there with 1 billion in usd on there, it'd be his as well?

You're telling me, all I have to do is steal your phone, with all your "home video's" with you and the wife, turn it in at a repair shop and leave it for 14 days and by day 15 pcgeek and mrs pcgeek is starring on pornhub and there is not a god damned thing you can do about it?

 

[pcgeek11]

I agree with all of this, with the assumption that everything preceding it is true (that it's indeed Hunter's laptop that he dropped off there, etc.)

Did he though?
If they were actual government authorities (police, investigators, FBI, etc.), then how did other people claim to have the physical laptop? How did others supposedly have the emails, dick pics, and whatever else was supposed to be on there?

This thing went 17 different directions with too many conflicting stories among co-conspirators to believe any of them now, no matter the truth. I'll believe no one but official investigators at this point.

EDIT: looks like @cytg111 beat me to it lol

"If they were actual government authorities (police, investigators, FBI, etc.), then how did other people claim to have the physical laptop? How did others supposedly have the emails, dick pics, and whatever else was supposed to be on there?"


Let me think about it a second or two:

I wonder how hard it is to make an exact copy of a hard drive and pass it around......

Macrium Reflect, Acronis TrueImage, Snapshot.... etc.

 

[pcgeek11]

I refuse to believe this is legal.
So if there was a bitcoin wallet on there with 1 billion in usd on there, it'd be his as well?

You're telling me, all I have to do is steal your phone, with all your "home video's" with you and the wife, turn it in at a repair shop and leave it for 14 days and by day 15 pcgeek and mrs pcgeek is starring on pornhub and there is not a god damned thing you can do about it?

You don't have to believe it.

Just be careful of what you sign away....

Hunter Biden’s Laptop, Privacy and Computer Technicians

A recent study conducted by the University of Guelph in Ontario looked at privacy and the practices of computer repair shops. You know, like the repair

securityboulevard.com

https://delcode.delaware.gov/title25/c040/index.html

Under Delaware law, “any person who holds, stores, safekeeps or otherwise is left with possession of any abandoned personal property … shall be vested with complete and absolute title to said abandoned personal property and shall have all right to sell, alienate, gift or otherwise dispose of the said abandoned personal property…” The caveat here is that the “abandoned property” statute applies to “tangible personal property” which is abandoned—the physical laptop computer. So, once Hunter abandoned the laptop, the ability to gain full title to the computer vests in the computer shop.

 

[BoomerD]

You don't have to believe it.

Just be careful of what you sign away....

Hunter Biden’s Laptop, Privacy and Computer Technicians

A recent study conducted by the University of Guelph in Ontario looked at privacy and the practices of computer repair shops. You know, like the repair

securityboulevard.com

https://delcode.delaware.gov/title25/c040/index.html

Under Delaware law, “any person who holds, stores, safekeeps or otherwise is left with possession of any abandoned personal property … shall be vested with complete and absolute title to said abandoned personal property and shall have all right to sell, alienate, gift or otherwise dispose of the said abandoned personal property…” The caveat here is that the “abandoned property” statute applies to “tangible personal property” which is abandoned—the physical laptop computer. So, once Hunter abandoned the laptop, the ability to gain full title to the computer vests in the computer shop.

Perhaps...but PERHAPS the laptops were stolen from Hunter Biden and dropped off by someone else...

Hunter Biden email story: Computer repair store owner describes handing over laptop to FBI

The man, John Paul Mac Isaac, said he has a condition that affects his vision and “can’t be 100% sure” it was Hunter Biden who dropped off the computer for repair.

www.foxnews.com

The owner of a Delaware computer repair store where a man he believes was Hunter Biden dropped off a laptop that allegedly contained emails detailing an opportunity for a meeting between former Vice President Joe Biden and a top Burisma executive and other "disturbing" items, told Fox News on Wednesday that he was frightened by what he saw.

The man, John Paul Mac Isaac, said he has a condition that affects his vision and “can’t be 100% sure” it was Hunter Biden who dropped off the computer for repair. The Wilmington shop owner said he contacted the FBI out of concern, but declined to specify what he meant.

 

[Pohemi]

"If they were actual government authorities (police, investigators, FBI, etc.), then how did other people claim to have the physical laptop? How did others supposedly have the emails, dick pics, and whatever else was supposed to be on there?"


Let me think about it a second or two:

I wonder how hard it is to make an exact copy of a hard drive and pass it around......

Macrium Reflect, Acronis TrueImage, Snapshot.... etc.

Physical property has nothing to do with HDD data copying software. Legal transfer of physical ownership doesn't entitle him to ownership of the data and personal and private information that was on it.

I use to do that type of work professionally as well. It sure as fuck wasn't legal back then, and it still isn't now.

Picture this:
A woman brings her laptop into a shop and leaves it for 3 months. Shopkeeper says it belongs to them now, and snoops through the files (which is already past what is appropriate in this scenario).
They don't just snoop through the drive though...they find explicit personal photos of the previous owner contained on the HDD. They copy the photos and upload them to 49 different websites.

Do you really believe this is okay? And that it would be legal? Hell fucking no, it isn't. Neither is what (supposedly) happened with Hunter's laptop.

 

[Indus]

You don't have to believe it.

Just be careful of what you sign away....

Wow.. just incredible.. how that applies to you too about so many things

 

[MrSquished]

I'd like to start a fund to find pcgeeks soul, because he sure has no ethics. Without ethics, how do you have a soul?

 

[cytg111]

You don't have to believe it.

Just be careful of what you sign away....

Hunter Biden’s Laptop, Privacy and Computer Technicians

A recent study conducted by the University of Guelph in Ontario looked at privacy and the practices of computer repair shops. You know, like the repair

securityboulevard.com

https://delcode.delaware.gov/title25/c040/index.html

Under Delaware law, “any person who holds, stores, safekeeps or otherwise is left with possession of any abandoned personal property … shall be vested with complete and absolute title to said abandoned personal property and shall have all right to sell, alienate, gift or otherwise dispose of the said abandoned personal property…” The caveat here is that the “abandoned property” statute applies to “tangible personal property” which is abandoned—the physical laptop computer. So, once Hunter abandoned the laptop, the ability to gain full title to the computer vests in the computer shop.

Why do you stop there? From your own link, one paragraph further.
- Also, consider that you're so invested in Hunters Laptop right now that you're on the verge of being willing to sign over your own right to privacy. I mean, Hunters cock must be a hell of a drug cause conservatives sure as hell is freebasing that shit.


"This may, in fact, be the case. Under Delaware law, “any person who holds, stores, safekeeps or otherwise is left with possession of any abandoned personal property … shall be vested with complete and absolute title to said abandoned personal property and shall have all right to sell, alienate, gift or otherwise dispose of the said abandoned personal property…” The caveat here is that the “abandoned property” statute applies to “tangible personal property” which is abandoned—the physical laptop computer. So, once Hunter abandoned the laptop, the ability to gain full title to the computer vests in the computer shop. Cool. Cool. Cool.

But “intangible property” does not vest in the computer repair shop. There is no transfer of copyright of Hunter’s photos, diaries, etc. If a book containing the unpublished writings of J.R.R. Tolkein was found in a bungalow on Lakeside Road in Bournemouth, Hampshire, England, the book itself might vest in the bungalow’s owner as “abandoned property”, but the right to publish that book would vest in the Tolkein estate."

 

[cytg111]

Aaaaaaand...... Thread Gefickt.

 

[pcgeek11]

Perhaps...but PERHAPS the laptops were stolen from Hunter Biden and dropped off by someone else...

Hunter Biden email story: Computer repair store owner describes handing over laptop to FBI

The man, John Paul Mac Isaac, said he has a condition that affects his vision and “can’t be 100% sure” it was Hunter Biden who dropped off the computer for repair.

www.foxnews.com

He should have a Hunter Biden signature on a document. Should be able to match it up...

 

[ivwshane]

Well it was a serious question until all you trolls showed up.

Forget about it, Its my fault for thinking someone may have a genuine thought or two.

I was wrong.

I’ll help you out: literally no one besides righties, magas, and republicans care about Hunter Biden. No one fucking cares! Repeat after me, no one cares about Hunter Biden!


So if there is some discussion to be had about him, you will have to be the one to actually get it started because, again, no one fucking cares about Hunter Biden!

 

[pcgeek11]

Physical property has nothing to do with HDD data copying software. Legal transfer of physical ownership doesn't entitle him to ownership of the data and personal and private information that was on it.

I use to do that type of work professionally as well. It sure as fuck wasn't legal back then, and it still isn't now.

Picture this:
A woman brings her laptop into a shop and leaves it for 3 months. Shopkeeper says it belongs to them now, and snoops through the files (which is already past what is appropriate in this scenario).
They don't just snoop through the drive though...they find explicit personal photos of the previous owner contained on the HDD. They copy the photos and upload them to 49 different websites.

Do you really believe this is okay? And that it would be legal? Hell fucking no, it isn't. Neither is what (supposedly) happened with Hunter's laptop.

Do you honestly think PC Repair Techs don't snoop through unprotected hard drives? You have to assume that they do. They also have an obligation to report certain illegal activity that they find. CSAM (Child Sexual Abuse Materials).

The owner of the shop examined the contents of the computer and turned them over to the FBI (which actually gave the owner a “cover subpoena” for the laptop).

States that require reporting of suspected CSAM include Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, North Carolina, South Carolina and South Dakota. It’s not clear whether repair shops have processes for searching for CSAM or even whether they have access to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) database for the purposes of identifying the MD5 or other hashes of these materials. Similarly, ISPs are required, under 42 USC 13032, to report CSAM they know about and these ISPs have processes to actually look for it.

The problem is, if the technician finds a single copy of CSAM (even in a thumbnail) they don’t just turn over that file—they copy and turn over the entire contents of the computer. Because this is (likely) a private search, Fourth Amendment limitations on warrants and scope of searches may not apply when the computer is turned over to the cops.

Read the Delaware law and Article I linked. I didn't write the law.

Yes I think it is Legal IAW Delaware Law as written. When he didn't claim it he signed away his rights to it. Read the Contract before you sign it or it can bite you in the ass.

Drive Encryption was invented for a reason.

Regardless the cat is out of the bag. Regardless if anybody cares...

 

[fskimospy]

Do you honestly think PC Repair Techs don't snoop through unprotected hard drives? You have to assume that they do. They also have an obligation to report certain illegal activity that they find. CSAM (Child Sexual Abuse Materials).

The owner of the shop examined the contents of the computer and turned them over to the FBI (which actually gave the owner a “cover subpoena” for the laptop).



Read the Delaware law and Article I linked. I didn't write the law.

Yes I think it is Legal IAW Delaware Law as written. When he didn't claim it he signed away his rights to it. Read the Contract before you sign it or it can bite you in the ass.

Drive Encryption was invented for a reason.

Regardless the cat is out of the bag. Regardless if anybody cares...

First; there are massive problems with his data as previously mentioned. Second - on what planet should we consider conservative complaints about this? Conservatives clearly didn’t care about massive, obvious corruption for years so what’s the point now?

You guys have to clean up your own shop before you want to talk about someone else. I want you to call for Trump and Trump’s children to be prosecuted. Then we can talk about the Bidens, because the idea should be that the law applies to everyone.

 

[MrSquished]

if pcgeek and felix spontaneously combusted, the planet would instantly become better. let's just admit reality. those two fuckers are hopeless shite.

 

[rommelrommel]

I wonder how hard it is to make an exact copy of a hard drive and pass it around......

Macrium Reflect, Acronis TrueImage, Snapshot.... etc.

Would this be more or less hard than restoring one of Hunters iCloud backups to some random old laptop you had, if you had managed to compromise his account?

 

[Pohemi]

Do you honestly think PC Repair Techs don't snoop through unprotected hard drives? You have to assume that they do. They also have an obligation to report certain illegal activity that they find. CSAM (Child Sexual Abuse Materials).

The owner of the shop examined the contents of the computer and turned them over to the FBI (which actually gave the owner a “cover subpoena” for the laptop).



Read the Delaware law and Article I linked. I didn't write the law.

Yes I think it is Legal IAW Delaware Law as written. When he didn't claim it he signed away his rights to it. Read the Contract before you sign it or it can bite you in the ass.

Drive Encryption was invented for a reason.

Regardless the cat is out of the bag. Regardless if anybody cares...

That's more than I thought, and seems problematic to me as an invasion of privacy. I know that other techs snoop in people's files, my point was that we weren't supposed to, and I never did myself. You make an offhand remark about drive encryption as well...should someone leave the drive locked when they drop it off for repair? What if they forget to move sensitive files into a locked folder? Are those just open game then?

Also- the law you copy/pasta'd is specific to a few states, and involves a very specific type of content. This does not extrapolate to a shop owner taking ownership of private info on the computer, and being able to copy it and provide it to media or political players after providing it to authorities.

They can take physical possession and ownership of the computer as stated on the service contract, but the SOP was to immediately low-level format any drives and not copy ANYTHING off of it beforehand.

I still do not think it equates to what you were suggesting.

 

[mikeymikec]

@pcgeek11 it's not exactly a high-IQ move to accuse me of lying while in the same thread claim that you aren't a Trump supporter. We all know you are. You've already trashed your reputation here almost beyond repair by either pretending to be on the fence the entire time or straight-up defending racism such as when Trump trotted out The Great Mexican Rapist Conspiracy or the "shithole countries" comments; this is all far worse than being a naive idiot who donates to a self-proclaimed billionaire, which would surprise absolutely none of us and would seem like par for the course.

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I'm what you'd call a PC repair tech and I don't snoop because a) I'm not a fucking creep and b) the consequences of snooping for me are manyfold, such as:

1 - getting a rep for that would likely destroy my integrity for respecting customers' privacy
2 - the direct legal consequences for me for invading someone's privacy
3 - the possibility that when I next have to look the customer in the eye, I'm thinking of what I found on their computer

Snooping is just mind-bogglingly stupid.

That aside, this argument is absolutely freaking hilarious. If it had been a GQP guy who supposedly jetted across the country to drop off their computer full of dirty secrets with a random PC repair tech and then just decided to abandon it, conservatives here would be screaming about the ethics of a repair tech snooping and so obviously any evidence found is tainted and how the "extreme left" holds such sway in the IT sector etc.

So this creepy fuck of a tech, after deciding that the customer is never coming back, obviously having nothing better to do (such as running their business), decides for no reason to start rifling through customer data. Honestly, take some time to ponder this: you're going to search through some random individual's private data. How are you going to search through it, what are you going to search through it for (ie. search terms)? If someone went rifling through my documents folder, they're going to find a shitload of stuff that's utterly boring. I can't think of a single one of my customers that such an exercise could reveal intriguing results. Ok, so this guy is a truly sad fuck with nothing better to do, let's accept that. He then supposedly finds something (we have no idea what, but according to Fox News et al, it's BAD) and sends the data to the FBI. Then when he doesn't hear back from them, he sent it to RUDY GUILIANI, known bastion of impartiality and selfless devotion to just causes. Why would Rudy even accept this? If there's anything that's legally dodgy on this laptop, giving it to the opposing team pretty much immediately taints the evidence. If there was a series called "Sad Conservatives Behaving Badly", these two would be the stars of this episode.

The other weird thing about all of this is let's say all this bullshit actually happened: Hunter Biden is a political player and is corrupt and did have a tonne of personally compromising evidence and did give it to this tech. I don't know about you guys, but if I was that tech and I somehow blundered upon the motherlode of corruption on a rich guy's computer, and that guy is the son of who could possibly be the next US President and could be more ruthless than I know, I would consider my next moves very carefully for fear of trashing my business, losing my liberty and possibly my life. It would be like finding a suitcase with millions of dollars in cash: Someone will miss it.

 

[cytg111]

So to answer op, to fund potential incoming suits, Hunter should counter sue for defamation to the tune of 780 million dollars.
That should cover it.

edit:

Hunter Biden sues repairman over release of personal data from laptop

The US president's embattled son is under renewed scrutiny from Republicans in Congress.

www.bbc.com

 

[ch33zw1z]

lol, the diversions that keep conservatives distracted are so endlessly simple. Facts be damned. Republican leadership knows their constituents, and how easy it is to control them.

 

[cytg111]

lol, the diversions that keep conservatives distracted are so endlessly simple. Facts be damned. Republican leadership knows their constituents, and how easy it is to control them.

Yup, for the amount of corruption you guys are seeing these days, this is what fills the space in pcgeeks mind

1. Hunter's Laptop
2. Hunter's Laptop
3. Hunter's Laptop
4. GOTO 1.

You have to break Fox News. It's Jim Jones level cancer for the mind.
The Woke Mind Virus. Laughing my fucking ass off. I bet geek thinks he has a strong mind too. All I see is weak. I mean its broken.