Hunter Biden fathered a child while dating his bros widow

Page 8 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

JEDIYoda

Lifer
Jul 13, 2005
32,258
2,456
126
Really, you have evidence of this? Please, i'd like to see it.

Explainer: Biden, allies pushed out Ukrainian prosecutor because he didn't pursue corruption cases

read it and weep…….
WASHINGTON – A whistleblower complaint centering on President Donald Trump's phone call with the Ukrainian president has spurred a number of allegations and counterallegations as Republicans and Democrats jockey for position amid an impeachment inquiry.

At the heart of Congress' probe into the president's actions is his claim that former Vice President and 2020 Democratic frontrunner Joe Biden strong-armed the Ukrainian government to fire its top prosecutor in order to thwart an investigation into a company tied to his son, Hunter Biden.

But sources ranging from former Obama administration officials to an anti-corruption advocate in Ukraine say the official, Viktor Shokin, was ousted for the opposite reason Trump and his allies claim.

It wasn't because Shokin was investigating a natural gas company tied to Biden's son; it was because Shokin wasn't pursuing corruption among the country's politicians, according to a Ukrainian official and four former American officials who specialized in Ukraine and Europe.

Shokin's inaction prompted international calls for his ouster and ultimately resulted in his removal by Ukraine's parliament.

Without pressure from Joe Biden, European diplomats, the International Monetary Fund and other international organizations, Shokin would not have been fired, said Daria Kaleniuk, co-founder and executive director of the Anti Corruption Action Centre in Kiev.

"Civil society organizations in Ukraine were pressing for his resignation," Kaleniuk said, "but no one would have cared if there had not been voices from outside this country calling on him to go."

In a July phone call, Trump asked the president of Ukraine to investigate Biden's actions. That prompted a whistleblower to accuse Trump of asking a foreign government to interfere in the 2020 presidential election, which is now the subject of an impeachment inquiry.
Trump's assertion contradicted
The actions at the center of Trump's allegation occurred in late 2015 and early 2016, when U.S. aid was critical to Ukraine. Russia had seized control of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula and was supporting separatists who were fighting Ukrainian forces in the eastern part of the country.

Biden took an interest in Ukraine, said Steven Pifer, a William J. Perry fellow at Stanford University and former ambassador to Ukraine under President Bill Clinton.

"You saw the vice president begin to emerge as really sort of the senior policy lead on Ukraine," Pifer said. "It's good to have attention at that level."

At one point, Biden withheld $1 billion in aid to Ukraine to pressure the government to remove Shokin from the Prosecutor General's Office.
Trump and his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani claim Biden did this to quash Shokin's investigation into Ukraine's largest gas company, Burisma Holdings, and its owner, oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky.

They say this benefited Biden's son, Hunter Biden, who served on Burisma's board of directors – for which he was paid $50,000 a month.

Their assertion is contradicted by former diplomatic officials who were following the issue at the time.

Burisma Holdings was not under scrutiny at the time Joe Biden called for Shokin's ouster, according to the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine, an independent agency set up in 2014 that has worked closely with the FBI.

Shokin's office had investigated Burisma, but the probe focused on a period before Hunter Biden joined the company, according to the anti-corruption bureau.

The investigation dealt with the Ministry of Ecology, which allegedly granted special permits to Burisma between 2010 and 2012, the agency said. Hunter Biden did not join the company until 2014.
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
Jul 13, 2005
32,258
2,456
126
The prosecutor was investigating Burisma Holdings and Hunter Biden and refused to back down when told to. Vice President Biden shows up and says words to the effect fire the prosecutor or you don't get the Billion dollars of aid. I'm leaving in 6 hours. Son-of-a-Bitch they fired him.

What crimes did that prosecutor commit that he was worth a billion dollars? What was he convicted of?
No truth to your narrative at all!!
 

Jhhnn

No Lifer
Nov 11, 1999
59,167
11,225
126
OK, I just thought those folks were bringing Joe's name into the thread in order to describe the complete disassociation between the two as far as the topic at hand goes, rather than how it was alluded to that in order to lend Trump a helping hand smearing Joe through his son was the objective of the OP.
You're describing Taj's feigned innocence routine.
 

imported_tajmahal

Diamond Member
Jul 9, 2009
8,954
971
136
No truth to your narrative at all!!
What was the prosecutor convicted of? If he was so evil and corrupt that Biden was going to withhold a billion dollars from the Ukraine unless they did what he said what crimes did he commit and where is he serving his time?
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
Jul 13, 2005
32,258
2,456
126
What was the prosecutor convicted of? If he was so evil and corrupt that Biden was going to withhold a billion dollars from the Ukraine unless they did what he said what crimes did he commit and where is he serving his time?
I gave you proof that your narrative was wrong! It is your turn to quit posting Republican talking points and post actual facts!! See above -- you obviously will keep on with your lies and misinformation even when confronted with facts from a legit news source!!

 
  • Like
Reactions: DarthKyrie

imported_tajmahal

Diamond Member
Jul 9, 2009
8,954
971
136

Explainer: Biden, allies pushed out Ukrainian prosecutor because he didn't pursue corruption cases

read it and weep…….
WASHINGTON – A whistleblower complaint centering on President Donald Trump's phone call with the Ukrainian president has spurred a number of allegations and counterallegations as Republicans and Democrats jockey for position amid an impeachment inquiry.

At the heart of Congress' probe into the president's actions is his claim that former Vice President and 2020 Democratic frontrunner Joe Biden strong-armed the Ukrainian government to fire its top prosecutor in order to thwart an investigation into a company tied to his son, Hunter Biden.

But sources ranging from former Obama administration officials to an anti-corruption advocate in Ukraine say the official, Viktor Shokin, was ousted for the opposite reason Trump and his allies claim.

It wasn't because Shokin was investigating a natural gas company tied to Biden's son; it was because Shokin wasn't pursuing corruption among the country's politicians, according to a Ukrainian official and four former American officials who specialized in Ukraine and Europe.

Shokin's inaction prompted international calls for his ouster and ultimately resulted in his removal by Ukraine's parliament.

Without pressure from Joe Biden, European diplomats, the International Monetary Fund and other international organizations, Shokin would not have been fired, said Daria Kaleniuk, co-founder and executive director of the Anti Corruption Action Centre in Kiev.

"Civil society organizations in Ukraine were pressing for his resignation," Kaleniuk said, "but no one would have cared if there had not been voices from outside this country calling on him to go."

In a July phone call, Trump asked the president of Ukraine to investigate Biden's actions. That prompted a whistleblower to accuse Trump of asking a foreign government to interfere in the 2020 presidential election, which is now the subject of an impeachment inquiry.
Trump's assertion contradicted
The actions at the center of Trump's allegation occurred in late 2015 and early 2016, when U.S. aid was critical to Ukraine. Russia had seized control of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula and was supporting separatists who were fighting Ukrainian forces in the eastern part of the country.

Biden took an interest in Ukraine, said Steven Pifer, a William J. Perry fellow at Stanford University and former ambassador to Ukraine under President Bill Clinton.

"You saw the vice president begin to emerge as really sort of the senior policy lead on Ukraine," Pifer said. "It's good to have attention at that level."

At one point, Biden withheld $1 billion in aid to Ukraine to pressure the government to remove Shokin from the Prosecutor General's Office.
Trump and his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani claim Biden did this to quash Shokin's investigation into Ukraine's largest gas company, Burisma Holdings, and its owner, oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky.

They say this benefited Biden's son, Hunter Biden, who served on Burisma's board of directors – for which he was paid $50,000 a month.

Their assertion is contradicted by former diplomatic officials who were following the issue at the time.

Burisma Holdings was not under scrutiny at the time Joe Biden called for Shokin's ouster, according to the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine, an independent agency set up in 2014 that has worked closely with the FBI.

Shokin's office had investigated Burisma, but the probe focused on a period before Hunter Biden joined the company, according to the anti-corruption bureau.

The investigation dealt with the Ministry of Ecology, which allegedly granted special permits to Burisma between 2010 and 2012, the agency said. Hunter Biden did not join the company until 2014.
From your post.
"
At one point, Biden withheld $1 billion in aid to Ukraine to pressure the government to remove Shokin from the Prosecutor General's Office.
Trump and his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani claim Biden did this to quash Shokin's investigation into Ukraine's largest gas company, Burisma Holdings, and its owner, oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky. "





"The decision of the Sixth Administrative Court of Appeal confirmed that the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU) lawfully refused to provide certified copies of Memorandum of Understanding between the NABU and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) at the request of a non-governmental organization "Pravova derzhava". This is stated in the decision of the Administrative Court of Appeal dated March 13, 2019. The decision has come into force the same day.

The court decision abolished the previous decision of the Kyiv District Administrative Court (hereinafter - KDAC) and denied the applicants' lawsuit on recognition the unlawfulness of the actions of the NABU employees."

I should believe an agency in the corrupt country of the Ukraine . why?
 

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
13,697
1,814
126
Really? This horribly evil prosecutor , what were his crimes? What did he get convicted of? Time served?
Come on, man. He wasn't doing his job. Not a crime to be convicted of but he had to go. Explain how encouraging investigation into the company helps Hunter Biden again?

Dotard bought into a conspiracy theory that makes less sense than flat earth, and now he'll be impeached for it. Shouldn't be surprising coming from the guy who bankrupts casinos.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DarthKyrie

imported_tajmahal

Diamond Member
Jul 9, 2009
8,954
971
136
Come on, man. He wasn't doing his job. Not a crime to be convicted of but he had to go. Explain how encouraging investigation into the company helps Hunter Biden again?

Dotard bought into a conspiracy theory that makes less sense than flat earth, and now he'll be impeached for it. Shouldn't be surprising coming from the guy who bankrupts casinos.
Got it, he was horribly corrupt and every decent human being in the EU hated him and wanted his ouster to a point the United States Vice President threatened to withhold a Billion damn dollars from the Ukraine unless this guy gets fired......because he's a guy in the Ukraine government that isn't doing his job? Gosh it makes so much sense now.

Obviously I have been led astray by Republican talking points and now I see the error of my ways! Biden is a good man that did nothing wrong!

I have seen the LIGHT!
 

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
13,697
1,814
126
Got it, he was horribly corrupt and every decent human being in the EU hated him and wanted his ouster to a point the United States Vice President threatened to withhold a Billion damn dollars from the Ukraine unless this guy gets fired......because he's a guy in the Ukraine government that isn't doing his job? Gosh it makes so much sense now.

Obviously I have been led astray by Republican talking points and now I see the error of my ways! Biden is a good man that did nothing wrong!

I have seen the LIGHT!
I realize this is intended as sarcasm, but it's a depiction of actual events. The EU and United States want the strongest buffer against Russian expansionism to be strong and stable. Firing corrupt or incompetent government officials is a great way to accomplish that.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DarthKyrie

soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
15,141
2,717
126
Got it, he was horribly corrupt and every decent human being in the EU hated him and wanted his ouster to a point the United States Vice President threatened to withhold a Billion damn dollars from the Ukraine unless this guy gets fired......because he's a guy in the Ukraine government that isn't doing his job? Gosh it makes so much sense now.

Obviously I have been led astray by Republican talking points and now I see the error of my ways! Biden is a good man that did nothing wrong!

I have seen the LIGHT!
Biden did it in concert with US & EU policy, Trump committed a crime by doing it for his OWN PERSONAL GAIN. Can you see a difference?
 
  • Like
Reactions: DarthKyrie

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
101,026
15,153
136
The prosecutor was investigating Burisma Holdings and Hunter Biden and refused to back down when told to. Vice President Biden shows up and says words to the effect fire the prosecutor or you don't get the Billion dollars of aid. I'm leaving in 6 hours. Son-of-a-Bitch they fired him.

What crimes did that prosecutor commit that he was worth a billion dollars? What was he convicted of?
Of course, these are lies. You remain preposterously ignorant of the actual facts here.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
23,139
7,801
136
Got it, he was horribly corrupt and every decent human being in the EU hated him and wanted his ouster to a point the United States Vice President threatened to withhold a Billion damn dollars from the Ukraine unless this guy gets fired......because he's a guy in the Ukraine government that isn't doing his job? Gosh it makes so much sense now.

Obviously I have been led astray by Republican talking points and now I see the error of my ways! Biden is a good man that did nothing wrong!

I have seen the LIGHT!
There are kids with cancer pointing at you for being such a bad human being continuing to support the corrupt dirtbag. You should write that on your tombstone. "I supported Trump to the end" What a proud moment for you and your family.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DarthKyrie

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
27,415
3,939
126
Got it, he was horribly corrupt and every decent human being in the EU hated him and wanted his ouster to a point the United States Vice President threatened to withhold a Billion damn dollars from the Ukraine unless this guy gets fired......because he's a guy in the Ukraine government that isn't doing his job? Gosh it makes so much sense now.

Obviously I have been led astray by Republican talking points and now I see the error of my ways! Biden is a good man that did nothing wrong!

I have seen the LIGHT!
spreading your misinformation and fake news should be against the forum rules. The world doesnt need more misinformation and division. You are part of the problem.
 

NTMBK

Diamond Member
Nov 14, 2011
8,660
1,583
126
How the fuck is this 8 pages of nonsense in one day? Amazing.

Hunter Biden is not the one running for president. I'd worry more about the current president being an immoral arsehole.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DarthKyrie and Vic

Jhhnn

No Lifer
Nov 11, 1999
59,167
11,225
126
Got it, he was horribly corrupt and every decent human being in the EU hated him and wanted his ouster to a point the United States Vice President threatened to withhold a Billion damn dollars from the Ukraine unless this guy gets fired......because he's a guy in the Ukraine government that isn't doing his job? Gosh it makes so much sense now.

Obviously I have been led astray by Republican talking points and now I see the error of my ways! Biden is a good man that did nothing wrong!

I have seen the LIGHT!
It's a grand conspiracy theory, huh? No wonder Trump was willing to strongarm the Ukrainian govt to put their stamp of approval on it. It's just another version of Benghazi Birtherism & it plays just as well to the target audience.

And now it blew up in Trump's face. Fucking whistleblower. Fucking Atkinson. Fucking Schiff. Fucking never Trumpers. Fucking Democrats. Fucking Sondland. Fucking Yovanovitch. And now, fucking rats everywhere but we're supposed to care about the Bidens. You betcha.
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
13,824
5,968
146
1. The woman that's pregnant is not Beau's wife. You got your facts wrong........again.
Take another read of the story.
ok so what?
2. No it's not, watch the video.
3. I believe in what my eyes and ears tell me. Vice President Biden putting the screws to Ukraine to get over a Billion dollars in aid by firing a prosecutor who's going after Burisma and Hunter Biden and "son-of-a-bitch they did it!"
[/QUOTE]

The bold is still a lie.
 

Commodus

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 2004
7,473
4,418
136
The hilarious irony of Taj is that, if he were internally consistent with this, he would enthusiastically oppose Trump. If what Hunter Biden reportedly did was bad, then Trump is that times ten. He has cheated on all three of his wives (including with at least one prostitute), bragged about groping, received at least 15 allegations of sexual harassment and been more than a little creepy about his daughter.

But of course, internal consistency isn't the goal -- it's just an attempt to distract from Trump's explicitly, unambiguously illegal activities. He has no real defense for Trump, so his only hope is that you'll look the other way for a brief moment.
 

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
13,697
1,814
126
ok so what?
2. No it's not, watch the video.
3. I believe in what my eyes and ears tell me. Vice President Biden putting the screws to Ukraine to get over a Billion dollars in aid by firing a prosecutor who's going after Burisma and Hunter Biden and "son-of-a-bitch they did it!"
The bold is still a lie.
IMO, it should be an infraction to knowingly lie over and over when you've been repeatedly shown that what you're saying is wrong. If we can't call someone a lying doodoo head, then they shouldn't be allowed to act like one.
 

ASK THE COMMUNITY