what do you think about an x800 xt aiw?
How much of a boost would I get?
How does it compare with the non-aiw cards?
SO MANY FRIGGEN QUESTIONS
How much of a boost would I get?
How does it compare with the non-aiw cards?
SO MANY FRIGGEN QUESTIONS
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
I don't have a 2001FP (but do have a 2005FPW)....and I never owned a 9800 Pro (and I got rid of my 9700 Pro well before HL2 came out....)
With that said, I run at all settings maxed, 1680x1050, 4xAA/8xAF, and it's often very smooth (60fps)...drops to 30fps (I use Vsync) are not by any means rare, but I can live with them.
Edit: Current card is a 6800GT
<---cries..
:evil:
Why not just buy a new video card? You know you want to.
no one will bu my 9800pro
How much?
the fact that the regular x800xl gets 60fps @ 1600x1200 with 4x/16 gives me a hardon like you wouldn't believe
Originally posted by: cobalt
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
I don't have a 2001FP (but do have a 2005FPW)....and I never owned a 9800 Pro (and I got rid of my 9700 Pro well before HL2 came out....)
With that said, I run at all settings maxed, 1680x1050, 4xAA/8xAF, and it's often very smooth (60fps)...drops to 30fps (I use Vsync) are not by any means rare, but I can live with them.
Edit: Current card is a 6800GT
<---cries..
:evil:
Why not just buy a new video card? You know you want to.
no one will bu my 9800pro
How much?
around $100
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Higher resolutions generally come with bigger monitors...I can very easily see aliasing at 1680x1050 on my monitor if I turn off AA.
That's probably more a result of running a widescreen LCD resolution more than anything else. Don;t get me wrong, AA will work at higher resolutions, it's just basically overkill, and not what it was designed for.
However, it's become one of those things people brag about when they game. As in...
"I can play Doom 15 @ 16789 x 96857 @ 768hz with 157x AF and 456X AA!!"
Look in the hot deals threads. i think I saw one for about $300.00 or so. I haven't kept up with video cards lately, but if I get the money I am going to get another AIW of some kind. For a long time I wanted a aiw9800, but now that the newer cards have come down in price some I think I will wait until they are more reasonable.
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Higher resolutions generally come with bigger monitors...I can very easily see aliasing at 1680x1050 on my monitor if I turn off AA.
That's probably more a result of running a widescreen LCD resolution more than anything else. Don;t get me wrong, AA will work at higher resolutions, it's just basically overkill, and not what it was designed for.
However, it's become one of those things people brag about when they game. As in...
"I can play Doom 15 @ 16789 x 96857 @ 768hz with 157x AF and 456X AA!!"
in the end, all i want is fluid gameplay at 1600x1200
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Higher resolutions generally come with bigger monitors...I can very easily see aliasing at 1680x1050 on my monitor if I turn off AA.
That's probably more a result of running a widescreen LCD resolution more than anything else. Don;t get me wrong, AA will work at higher resolutions, it's just basically overkill, and not what it was designed for.
However, it's become one of those things people brag about when they game. As in...
"I can play Doom 15 @ 16789 x 96857 @ 768hz with 157x AF and 456X AA!!"
Well, as far as I know, the pixel pitch is very similar to the 2001FP....
I can agree with the bragging thing to an extent - I absolutely cannot see a difference between 4xAA and 8xAA. However, I can see a big difference between 0x and 4x, and 2x-4x is still pretty noticeable as well.
dug777
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Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Higher resolutions generally come with bigger monitors...I can very easily see aliasing at 1680x1050 on my monitor if I turn off AA.
That's probably more a result of running a widescreen LCD resolution more than anything else. Don;t get me wrong, AA will work at higher resolutions, it's just basically overkill, and not what it was designed for.
However, it's become one of those things people brag about when they game. As in...
"I can play Doom 15 @ 16789 x 96857 @ 768hz with 157x AF and 456X AA!!"
i have to admit that regardless of the res i need some AA
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Higher resolutions generally come with bigger monitors...I can very easily see aliasing at 1680x1050 on my monitor if I turn off AA.
That's probably more a result of running a widescreen LCD resolution more than anything else. Don;t get me wrong, AA will work at higher resolutions, it's just basically overkill, and not what it was designed for.
However, it's become one of those things people brag about when they game. As in...
"I can play Doom 15 @ 16789 x 96857 @ 768hz with 157x AF and 456X AA!!"
i have to admit that regardless of the res i need some AA
:heart:
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Higher resolutions generally come with bigger monitors...I can very easily see aliasing at 1680x1050 on my monitor if I turn off AA.
That's probably more a result of running a widescreen LCD resolution more than anything else. Don;t get me wrong, AA will work at higher resolutions, it's just basically overkill, and not what it was designed for.
However, it's become one of those things people brag about when they game. As in...
"I can play Doom 15 @ 16789 x 96857 @ 768hz with 157x AF and 456X AA!!"
Well, as far as I know, the pixel pitch is very similar to the 2001FP....
I can agree with the bragging thing to an extent - I absolutely cannot see a difference between 4xAA and 8xAA. However, I can see a big difference between 0x and 4x, and 2x-4x is still pretty noticeable as well.
definitely.
How limiting will my 2500+ be though with an x800xl?
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Higher resolutions generally come with bigger monitors...I can very easily see aliasing at 1680x1050 on my monitor if I turn off AA.
That's probably more a result of running a widescreen LCD resolution more than anything else. Don;t get me wrong, AA will work at higher resolutions, it's just basically overkill, and not what it was designed for.
However, it's become one of those things people brag about when they game. As in...
"I can play Doom 15 @ 16789 x 96857 @ 768hz with 157x AF and 456X AA!!"
Well, as far as I know, the pixel pitch is very similar to the 2001FP....
I can agree with the bragging thing to an extent - I absolutely cannot see a difference between 4xAA and 8xAA. However, I can see a big difference between 0x and 4x, and 2x-4x is still pretty noticeable as well.
definitely.
How limiting will my 2500+ be though with an x800xl?
Is it running at stock speeds? I'd try to overclock it as much as possible...
At 1600x1200, CPU limitation will be somewhat less of an issue, but there's probably still a big difference between the 2500+ (1.83GHz IIRC?) and my XP at 2.4GHz...
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Higher resolutions generally come with bigger monitors...I can very easily see aliasing at 1680x1050 on my monitor if I turn off AA.
That's probably more a result of running a widescreen LCD resolution more than anything else. Don;t get me wrong, AA will work at higher resolutions, it's just basically overkill, and not what it was designed for.
However, it's become one of those things people brag about when they game. As in...
"I can play Doom 15 @ 16789 x 96857 @ 768hz with 157x AF and 456X AA!!"
Well, as far as I know, the pixel pitch is very similar to the 2001FP....
I can agree with the bragging thing to an extent - I absolutely cannot see a difference between 4xAA and 8xAA. However, I can see a big difference between 0x and 4x, and 2x-4x is still pretty noticeable as well.
definitely.
How limiting will my 2500+ be though with an x800xl?
Is it running at stock speeds? I'd try to overclock it as much as possible...
At 1600x1200, CPU limitation will be somewhat less of an issue, but there's probably still a big difference between the 2500+ (1.83GHz IIRC?) and my XP at 2.4GHz...
for some reason my system used to overclock to 3200 (i have pc 3200 ram) but it doesn't anymore
BEcause the bios loads up perfectly and such and because it crashes when goign into windows I suspect the Video card jsut can't overclock
The stock heatsink on 9800pros sucks anyways
Hopefulyl that is the case....I hope it is not the 250w shuttle PSU
damn shuttle XPC PSU's are fvkign animals
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Higher resolutions generally come with bigger monitors...I can very easily see aliasing at 1680x1050 on my monitor if I turn off AA.
That's probably more a result of running a widescreen LCD resolution more than anything else. Don;t get me wrong, AA will work at higher resolutions, it's just basically overkill, and not what it was designed for.
However, it's become one of those things people brag about when they game. As in...
"I can play Doom 15 @ 16789 x 96857 @ 768hz with 157x AF and 456X AA!!"
Well, as far as I know, the pixel pitch is very similar to the 2001FP....
I can agree with the bragging thing to an extent - I absolutely cannot see a difference between 4xAA and 8xAA. However, I can see a big difference between 0x and 4x, and 2x-4x is still pretty noticeable as well.
definitely.
How limiting will my 2500+ be though with an x800xl?
Is it running at stock speeds? I'd try to overclock it as much as possible...
At 1600x1200, CPU limitation will be somewhat less of an issue, but there's probably still a big difference between the 2500+ (1.83GHz IIRC?) and my XP at 2.4GHz...
for some reason my system used to overclock to 3200 (i have pc 3200 ram) but it doesn't anymore
BEcause the bios loads up perfectly and such and because it crashes when goign into windows I suspect the Video card jsut can't overclock
The stock heatsink on 9800pros sucks anyways
Hopefulyl that is the case....I hope it is not the 250w shuttle PSU
damn shuttle XPC PSU's are fvkign animals
The video card shouldn't have an impact on your overclock unless your board doesn't have an AGP/PCI lock.
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Higher resolutions generally come with bigger monitors...I can very easily see aliasing at 1680x1050 on my monitor if I turn off AA.
That's probably more a result of running a widescreen LCD resolution more than anything else. Don;t get me wrong, AA will work at higher resolutions, it's just basically overkill, and not what it was designed for.
However, it's become one of those things people brag about when they game. As in...
"I can play Doom 15 @ 16789 x 96857 @ 768hz with 157x AF and 456X AA!!"
Well, as far as I know, the pixel pitch is very similar to the 2001FP....
I can agree with the bragging thing to an extent - I absolutely cannot see a difference between 4xAA and 8xAA. However, I can see a big difference between 0x and 4x, and 2x-4x is still pretty noticeable as well.
definitely.
How limiting will my 2500+ be though with an x800xl?
Is it running at stock speeds? I'd try to overclock it as much as possible...
At 1600x1200, CPU limitation will be somewhat less of an issue, but there's probably still a big difference between the 2500+ (1.83GHz IIRC?) and my XP at 2.4GHz...
for some reason my system used to overclock to 3200 (i have pc 3200 ram) but it doesn't anymore
BEcause the bios loads up perfectly and such and because it crashes when goign into windows I suspect the Video card jsut can't overclock
The stock heatsink on 9800pros sucks anyways
Hopefulyl that is the case....I hope it is not the 250w shuttle PSU
damn shuttle XPC PSU's are fvkign animals
The video card shouldn't have an impact on your overclock unless your board doesn't have an AGP/PCI lock.
shuttle 41g mobo......or at least I think it is..I have a 41ng v2 ...look it up for me why don't you...
<---going to bed
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Higher resolutions generally come with bigger monitors...I can very easily see aliasing at 1680x1050 on my monitor if I turn off AA.
That's probably more a result of running a widescreen LCD resolution more than anything else. Don;t get me wrong, AA will work at higher resolutions, it's just basically overkill, and not what it was designed for.
However, it's become one of those things people brag about when they game. As in...
"I can play Doom 15 @ 16789 x 96857 @ 768hz with 157x AF and 456X AA!!"
Well, as far as I know, the pixel pitch is very similar to the 2001FP....
I can agree with the bragging thing to an extent - I absolutely cannot see a difference between 4xAA and 8xAA. However, I can see a big difference between 0x and 4x, and 2x-4x is still pretty noticeable as well.
definitely.
How limiting will my 2500+ be though with an x800xl?
Is it running at stock speeds? I'd try to overclock it as much as possible...
At 1600x1200, CPU limitation will be somewhat less of an issue, but there's probably still a big difference between the 2500+ (1.83GHz IIRC?) and my XP at 2.4GHz...
for some reason my system used to overclock to 3200 (i have pc 3200 ram) but it doesn't anymore
BEcause the bios loads up perfectly and such and because it crashes when goign into windows I suspect the Video card jsut can't overclock
The stock heatsink on 9800pros sucks anyways
Hopefulyl that is the case....I hope it is not the 250w shuttle PSU
damn shuttle XPC PSU's are fvkign animals
The video card shouldn't have an impact on your overclock unless your board doesn't have an AGP/PCI lock.
shuttle 41g mobo......or at least I think it is..I have a 41ng v2 ...look it up for me why don't you...
<---going to bed
I would, but I'm lazy.
Assuming it's not the video card, make sure you're giving the CPU enough voltage as well...
Originally posted by: dug777
if you get that 2500+ up and crusing, bartons pwn t-bred Bs
that extra L2 cache is nice...
I hope so...
a 3200+ cpu with an x800xl would have me jizzing all night and all day
sad ain't it that the product of the ancient and respect art of lithography could invoke such wretched and vile emotions
dug777
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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: dug777
if you get that 2500+ up and crusing, bartons pwn t-bred Bs
that extra L2 cache is nice...
I hope so...
a 3200+ cpu with an x800xl would have me jizzing all night and all day
sad ain't it that the product of the ancient and respect art of lithography could invoke such wretched and vile emotions
mind you like synth tbred-Bs have been kind to us, and best value evar
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: dug777
if you get that 2500+ up and crusing, bartons pwn t-bred Bs
that extra L2 cache is nice...
I hope so...
a 3200+ cpu with an x800xl would have me jizzing all night and all day
sad ain't it that the product of the ancient and respect art of lithography could invoke such wretched and vile emotions
Meh, it takes less than that to get Dug going
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: dug777
if you get that 2500+ up and crusing, bartons pwn t-bred Bs
that extra L2 cache is nice...
I hope so...
a 3200+ cpu with an x800xl would have me jizzing all night and all day
sad ain't it that the product of the ancient and respect art of lithography could invoke such wretched and vile emotions
mind you like synth tbred-Bs have been kind to us, and best value evar
QFT
$45 1700+ at 2.4GHz for 2+ years = best bang for buck ever :thumbsup:
dug777
Lifer
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Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: dug777
if you get that 2500+ up and crusing, bartons pwn t-bred Bs
that extra L2 cache is nice...
I hope so...
a 3200+ cpu with an x800xl would have me jizzing all night and all day
sad ain't it that the product of the ancient and respect art of lithography could invoke such wretched and vile emotions
mind you like synth tbred-Bs have been kind to us, and best value evar
QFT
$45 1700+ at 2.4GHz for 2+ years = best bang for buck ever :thumbsup:
:thumbsup: i did almost as good, got my entire rig for $500 AUD two years ago (xp2000+ that will do 2.1-2.3Ghz)
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: dug777
if you get that 2500+ up and crusing, bartons pwn t-bred Bs
that extra L2 cache is nice...
I hope so...
a 3200+ cpu with an x800xl would have me jizzing all night and all day
sad ain't it that the product of the ancient and respect art of lithography could invoke such wretched and vile emotions
mind you like synth tbred-Bs have been kind to us, and best value evar
QFT
$45 1700+ at 2.4GHz for 2+ years = best bang for buck ever :thumbsup:
I got my 2500+ for cheap too..great investment....chugs along nicely with encoding..jsut have to be patient that's all
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