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Humans evolved from Mice!!!

XZeroII

XZeroII

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About 90-100 million years ago. Just like we evolved from apes 5 million years ago, 90-100 million years ago we were mice. We share 2 - 2.9% the same Genes with Mice. Since sarcasm is difficult to display due to a lack of Emoticons, I will just tell you that I'm being sarcastic. I think these people are nut cases when they say that we shared a common ancestor.
 
We share 2 - 2.9% the same Genes with Mice
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I think you misundersood it... I think what they are saying is that 2% of mouse DNA is unique to mice, and 2.9% of human DNA is unique to humans. I don't think they were making a connection there.
 
there are a lot of rat bastards around, present company excluded of course. 😀

But the article doesn't say that humans evolved from mice, it just says that the evolutionary history of humans and mice diverged from a common ancestor about 100 million years ago.

 
Originally posted by: yamahaXS
there are a lot of rat bastards around, present company excluded of course. 😀

But the article doesn't say that humans evolved from mice, it just says that the evolutionary history of humans and mice diverged from a common ancestor about 100 million years ago.
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According to scientists, we evolved from apes. Using the same info, we must have evolved from mice as well. It would be contradictory to reach one conclusion about apes and another about mice when analyzing the same type of info.
 
Oh joy, YART attacking evolution.
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Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: yamahaXS
there are a lot of rat bastards around, present company excluded of course. 😀

But the article doesn't say that humans evolved from mice, it just says that the evolutionary history of humans and mice diverged from a common ancestor about 100 million years ago.
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According to scientists, we evolved from apes. Using the same info, we must have evolved from mice as well. It would be contradictory to reach one conclusion about apes and another about mice when analyzing the same type of info.
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good lord, the guy said a common ancestor, meaning we didn't evolve from mice. mice are still around. as are apes. we didn't evolve from apes, we each evolved from a common ancestor. like branches on a tree, they branched off long ago.
 
the layman has NO idea how much humans have in common with mice. over 90% of the genes are common in humans and mice. I think the real number is higher than 95% but I'm not sure, so I'll stick to the safe number of 90%. Systems like DNA replication, transcription, and protein traslation are virtually identical. Neural structure (neurons, i.e. brain cells) are identical, the way long term changes occur in the brain are identical. And on and on and on.

The very few differences between mice and humans are mostly tweaks that occurred presumably in the millions of years in which humans branched off from mice. Most of these tweaks occured in the developmental process (a small change during development, and changes in genes that control development) have been shown to have drastic effects and changes in as little as one generation.

The fact that mice are so similar to humans is the rationale behind the heavy heavy usage of mice in experiments.
 
Originally posted by: Nefroditegood lord, the guy said a common ancestor, meaning we didn't evolve from mice. mice are still around. as are apes. we didn't evolve from apes, we each evolved from a common ancestor. like branches on a tree, they branched off long ago.
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Yeah that's a good point, but not entirely true. It's true that it's not right to say that chimpanzees are the ancestor to humans because chimpanzees have evolved a lot too during that time. But "common ancestor" and "existing now" aren't mutally exclusive. For example, although bacteria exist today, they are probably unchanged more or less (I know I'm going to offend some bacteriologist or something), and they are the common ancestor to humans and mice.

 
In the grand scale of evolution, humans can be said to come from a tree-shrew-like mammal that survived after the big dinosaur shakeout. Why then is it so surprising then that mice and men are so similar? It's certainly not to me.

Any scientist knows that the similarities are there, even without the HGP. Why do you think that mice and rats are so common in laboratory testing? Just as are pigs and chimps.
 
Originally posted by: kgraeme
In the grand scale of evolution, humans can be said to come from a tree-shrew-like mammal that survived after the big dinosaur shakeout. Why then is it so surprising then that mice and men are so similar? It's certainly not to me. Any scientist knows that the similarities are there, even without the HGP. Why do you think that mice and rats are so common in laboratory testing? Just as are pigs and chimps.
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Mice:

You can raise identical mice for consistency
They are prolific
They do not have mice lawyers. (although we have human lawyers for them)
 
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