Human Development Index: Is the UK on par with a Middle Eastern slave society?

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Infohawk

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The difference is I criticize governments or societal ills. You criticize ... ethnicity, race itself ALL THE TIME. Just a few minutes ago you posted: "Muslims are stuck in the middle ages and don't contribute much except violence."

When have I criticized a race or ethnicity? Islam is neither. Please provide evidence for your slander. Religion and culture are not race and ethnicity.

You only criticize Canada in relation to their royalty issue and because, let's face it, they're majority white and not the USA. When have you criticized the US or any middle-eastern country? Please link. This thread does not count since as I mentioned you only brought it up to badmouth the UK.
 

CanOWorms

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When have I criticized a race or ethnicity? Islam is neither. Please provide evidence for your slander. Religion and culture are not race and ethnicity.

OMG, you do it ALL THE TIME. You criticize race, religion, and ethnicity. And let's face it. Many times you basically criticize race or ethnicity via religion or culture.

This is like asking a 500 pound man when was the last time he went to McDonald's.

You only criticize Canada in relation to their royalty issue and because, let's face it, they're majority white and not the USA. When have you criticized the US or any middle-eastern country? Please link. This thread does not count since as I mentioned you only brought it up to badmouth the UK.

No, many times I criticize them for their strict media access, inferiority complex, etc.

Have you ever criticized any policy that had a negative effect on a minority group? Let's face it. You HATE minorities, immigrants, people of different race/religion/ethnicity.
 

Infohawk

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OMG, you do it ALL THE TIME. You criticize race, religion, and ethnicity. And let's face it. Many times you basically criticize race or ethnicity via religion or culture.

So you're admitting you can't link to where I criticize race or ethnicity? You should because you can't provide any links. I'm not sure how you can criticize "race or ethnicity via religion or culture"... Those aren't connected. But you are so obsessed with race that you probably think certain races intrinsically have certain cultures?

Isn't it funny that you say I hate minorities when you don't even know what race I am?
 

CanOWorms

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So you're admitting you can't link to where I criticize race or ethnicity? You should because you can't provide any links. I'm not sure how you can criticize "race or ethnicity via religion or culture"... Those aren't connected.
Of course they're not connected. But you're using those as vehicles for racism.

But you are so obsessed with race that you probably think certain races intrinsically have certain cultures?
You seem the one obsessed with culture.

Isn't it funny that you say I hate minorities when you don't even know what race I am?
You said in the past that you were white, so yes I do know. Plus, it's not like a white supremacist group hunkered down in an Idaho fort will have a Mongolian hanging around.
 

Infohawk

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Of course they're not connected. But you're using those as vehicles for racism.

You seem the one obsessed with culture.

You said in the past that you were white, so yes I do know. Plus, it's not like a white supremacist group hunkered down in an Idaho fort will have a Mongolian hanging around.

Vehicles for racism? You really have nothing to back your statements up do you? Not that hard to use search engine but you know you're full of shit. I'll leave you to your dreams of American bombs dropping on blue eyed children...
 

CanOWorms

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Vehicles for racism? You really have nothing to back your statements up do you? Not that hard to use search engine but you know you're full of shit. I'll leave you to your dreams of American bombs dropping on blue eyed children...

It's like when a business bans people with baggy/saggy pants when they really want to ban blacks. You use the same ploy.

I'll leave you to your dreams of decapitating a newborn Mongolian baby.
 
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I'm not sure why CanOWorms is allowed to stay on this forum with the hate he spews. If a member behaved the same way towards Jews, Americans, Indians or Christians as he does towards Europeans they would be banned long ago. He is the most hateful person on this forum and it should not be accepted. Disgusting.
 

CanOWorms

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I'm not sure why CanOWorms is allowed to stay on this forum with the hate he spews. If a member behaved the same way towards Jews, Americans, Indians or Christians as he does towards Europeans they would be banned long ago. He is the most hateful person on this forum and it should not be accepted. Disgusting.

Probably because criticism towards a government is not any form of bigotry against humans. If it was, think about how it would affect you. You spew a lot of hate towards the United States.

I'm guessing that you're mad that the Queen lives in such squalor.

And a lot of people on this forum spew hate towards distinct groups, including the ones you mentioned. Infohawk does it all the time.
 
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nCred

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This is pretty funny. CanOWorms sees that some European countries are falling in the HDI ranking, and expects the fall to continue. What he doesn't realize is that the criterias and methodology have changed in the 2010 rankings. This is the reason for the unusually large changes in the rank.

Starting with the 2010 report the HDI combines three dimensions:

* A long and healthy life: Life expectancy at birth
* Access to knowledge: Mean years of schooling and Expected years of schooling
* A decent standard of living: GNI per capita (PPP US$)

The HDI combined three dimensions up until its 2009 report:

* Life expectancy at birth, as an index of population health and longevity
* Knowledge and education, as measured by the adult literacy rate (with two-thirds weighting) and the combined primary, secondary, and tertiary gross enrollment ratio (with one-third weighting).
* Standard of living, as indicated by the natural logarithm of gross domestic product per capita at purchasing power parity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index
 

CanOWorms

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This is pretty funny. CanOWorms sees that some European countries are falling in the HDI ranking, and expects the fall to continue. What he doesn't realize is that the criterias and methodology have changed in the 2010 rankings. This is the reason for the unusually large changes in the rank.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index

Several countries have been on a downward trend before the revised rankings. With the economic collapse of several countries it seems that trend is going to include more countries. For example, Portugal seems a likely candidate of being pushed out into developing nation status.
 

Monster_Munch

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The UK is only slipping right now because our economy more than any other country in the world is dependent on the financial services industry and we've just gone through a global financial crisis.
 

nCred

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Several countries have been on a downward trend before the revised rankings. With the economic collapse of several countries it seems that trend is going to include more countries. For example, Portugal seems a likely candidate of being pushed out into developing nation status.
oh, and I checked another thing. In the 2010 index, only 4 EU countries are outside the "developed countries" catagory. In the 2007 rank, 8 EU countries were in the "developing countries" catagory. hmm. Seems like you don't know what you are talking about..
 
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CanOWorms

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oh, and I checked another thing. In the 2010 index, only 4 EU countries are outside the "developed countries" catagory. In the 2007 rank, 8 EU countries were in the "developing countries" catagory. hmm. Seems like you don't know what you are talking about..

Don't know if that's true, but it still doesn't really change much about most of the stuff I've been saying about the UK. If they've changed the methodology, have the categories stayed the same? I found a list from 2007 (but not separated by category) and it's striking how far the European countries have dropped and Asian and Middle Eastern countries taken their place in 2010. It also doesn't seem like there are 8 in the developing category if the category sizes are the same.

Nevertheless, it still challenges what we call developing vs. developed. People still live as if it's 1980. The UK is quite obviously close to being a developing nation, which is quite a shocker to many Eurosupremacists. Why is it so bad if the UK is viewed as a developing nation? If they are a developing nation and pretend that they are developed, will they eventually become developed? The fragile psyche born from Eurosupremacy seems like it may destroy itself.
 
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WelshBloke

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Don't know if that's true, but it still doesn't really change much about most of the stuff I've been saying about the UK. If they've changed the methodology, have the categories stayed the same? I found a list from 2007 (but not separated by category) and it's striking how far the European countries have dropped and Asian and Middle Eastern countries taken their place in 2010. It also doesn't seem like there are 8 in the developing category if the category sizes are the same.

Nevertheless, it still challenges what we call developing vs. developed. People still live as if it's 1980. The UK is quite obviously close to being a developing nation, which is quite a shocker to many Eurosupremacists. Why is it so bad if the UK is viewed as a developing nation? If they are a developing nation and pretend that they are developed, will they eventually become developed? The fragile psyche born from Eurosupremacy seems like it may destroy itself.

See this is your problem. You making shit up doesn't change reality in any way, you are also too extreme to set the boundaries of a debate.

You use the word 'we' or state that one of your skewed versions of reality has all of Europe worried, when in actual fact its just you who sees the world that way and the world has no idea why you're blabbing on like you do.


The only psyche I'm slightly worried about here is yours, in some ways I'd be much less worried if I knew you were trolling.

Anyway try to relax a bit and keep taking your meds, you know the doc said they'd help.
 
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nCred

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Don't know if that's true, but it still doesn't really change much about most of the stuff I've been saying about the UK. If they've changed the methodology, have the categories stayed the same? I found a list from 2007 (but not separated by category) and it's striking how far the European countries have dropped and Asian and Middle Eastern countries taken their place in 2010. It also doesn't seem like there are 8 in the developing category if the category sizes are the same.

Nevertheless, it still challenges what we call developing vs. developed. People still live as if it's 1980. The UK is quite obviously close to being a developing nation, which is quite a shocker to many Eurosupremacists. Why is it so bad if the UK is viewed as a developing nation? If they are a developing nation and pretend that they are developed, will they eventually become developed? The fragile psyche born from Eurosupremacy seems like it may destroy itself.
You actually think there is a fixed number of developed countries? Just because a country joins the developed countries doesn't mean another falls out.

http://hdr.undp.org/en/media/HDR_2009_EN_Summary.pdf

Here is the 2009 development report. The rank at the last page is the 2007 HDI rank. Estonia, Poland, Slovakia and Hungary are in the very high catagory in the 2010 report.
 

CanOWorms

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See this is your problem. You making shit up doesn't change reality in any way, you are also too extreme to set the boundaries of a debate.

See this is your problem. You making shit up doesn't change reality in any way, you are also too extreme to set the boundaries of a debate.

You use the word 'we' or state that one of your skewed versions of reality has all of Europe worried, when in actual fact its just you who sees the world that way and the world has no idea why you're blabbing on like you do.

Take some medication. It's all going to be ok.

The only psyche I'm slightly worried about here is yours, in some ways I'd be much less worried if I knew you were trolling.

Anyway try to relax a bit and keep taking your meds, you know the doc said they'd help.

You're the one who seems to be freaking out. I'm talking about something that interests me. This topic seems to hold no interest to you. You're only participating because of unrestrained anger.
 

WelshBloke

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See this is your problem. You making shit up doesn't change reality in any way, you are also too extreme to set the boundaries of a debate.

What am I making up. That you are pulling 'facts' out your arse?



Take some medication. It's all going to be ok.

I don't need any meds thanks, then again I'm not the one exclaiming the fall of the West.



You're the one who seems to be freaking out. I'm talking about something that interests me. This topic seems to hold no interest to you. You're only participating because of unrestrained anger.


I'm not freaking out or the least bit angry, so if that's what you're aiming for you might want to change tactics.

Its not that the subject holds no interest for me its just your version of it veers so far from the reality of it its hard to debate the actual points.