Huge Motorcycle Accident in New Brunswick

[NAC4EV]

A 51-year-old man from Boisbriand, Que., has died in a major collision involving nine motorcycles and an RV Friday night.
The crash happened just after 7 p.m. on Route 144 near the Saint-Basile, N.B., campground.
The Edmundston Police Force says the collision occurred when the motorcyclists tried to pass a truck pulling a fifth wheel trailer, which was preparing to turn left into the campground.


http://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/one-dead-after-massive-motorcycle-pileup-in-northern-n-b-1.3008916

Police say one person has died and nine others were sent to hospital in a motorcycle crash Friday night.

Police say nine motorcyclists came in contact with each other trying to avoid the RV.
Eight men and one woman were sent to hospital with multiple injuries. The driver of the truck was not hurt.
The crash closed down the road for nearly four hours.


Police say the male motorcyclists involved in the crash were members of various biker groups such as the Hells Angels, Red Devils and Dark Siders.

 

[kage69]

Why are you emphasizing the bikers? Sounds like the driver of the RV is who created this mess, at least from the limited info given.

I know bikers have a grisly history in Quebec, but honestly I see cars and trucks with QB plates in Maine all the time, and the vast majority drive like complete assholes with little regard for the people around them. My last trip downeast had a real eye opener on the Airline (Rt 9). A Toyota Corolla, with 5 people inside plus luggage or shopping bags, flew by me like I was standing still. Went on to pass others, in a non passing zone, going uphill and at a blind turn. Doing 75-80mph in a 55mph zone. Driver got back into our lane seconds before an F-150 towing a boat came around the corner.

 

[NAC4EV]

QB drivers are the best.:whiste::whiste:

The bikers convention in Ottawa was orderly and quiet.

I believe the driver of the RV is responsible for this accident.

 

[brycejones]

Needs more detail if however as stated the rv was making a left turn and the motorcyclists were passing it (I assume on the left) then the rv should have had the right of way. I wouldn't be so quick to blame the rv driver without more info.

 

[NAC4EV]

According to police, the crash occurred on Highway 144 as the motorcyclists tried to pass the RV while it was preparing to turn [assuming left] into the St-Basile campsite entrance.
Police say in an attempt to avoid hitting the fifth wheel, the motorcycles came in contact with each other creating a “domino effect.”

They say the deceased rider, a man from Boisbriand, Que., he came in contact with the RV.
The driver of the RV was not injured.

Police say the investigation into the collision is ongoing.

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[KMFJD]

i'm assuming no working turn signal/brakes on rv?

 

[NAC4EV]

i'm assuming no working turn signal/brakes on rv?

Perhaps..:hmm:

 

[pauldun170]

Wouldn't be surprised if that stupid formation riding those guys tend to do contributed to the domino effect

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Wouldn't be surprised if that stupid formation riding those guys tend to do contributed to the domino effect

If you're talking riding side by side, yes that could result in a domino effect type wreck. However, if they're riding staggered left and right at the proper following distance that would not result in a domino effect.

 

[rommelrommel]

QB drivers are the best.:whiste::whiste:

The bikers convention in Ottawa was orderly and quiet.

I believe the driver of the RV is responsible for this accident.

If he's responsible for killing and injuring HA and their dipshit hang arounds he deserves a trophy and armed security for life.

 

[DrDoug]

If you're talking riding side by side, yes that could result in a domino effect type wreck. However, if they're riding staggered left and right at the proper following distance that would not result in a domino effect.

Wrong. You are counting on every single person in that group to be on the same page in the event of an emergency, which is next to impossible. I was in one pack when the lead bike lost a part of their luggage. The ensuing mayhem left two bikes disabled and three riders injured.

Everyone was properly spaced and yet it happened.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Wrong. You are counting on every single person in that group to be on the same page in the event of an emergency, which is next to impossible. I was in one pack when the lead bike lost a part of their luggage. The ensuing mayhem left two bikes disabled and three riders injured.

Everyone was properly spaced and yet it happened.

I've also ridden in the proper formation and had the lead bike get taken out by a turkey vulture, the rest of us were able to come to a safe stop, got on the side of the road and go back to help our friend.

I have seen many accident where the bikers are riding side by side parade style and damn near all the bikes go down due to one having an issue and this includes watch police bike exhibitions

 

[DrDoug]

I've also ridden in the proper formation and had the lead bike get taken out by a turkey vulture, the rest of us were able to come to a safe stop, got on the side of the road and go back to help our friend.

I have seen many accident where the bikers are riding side by side parade style and damn near all the bikes go down due to one having an issue and this includes watch police bike exhibitions

IOW, shit happens... Regardless, when shit hits the fan people tend to act first and think/blame later. In my case I watched the disaster unfold from the safe position of way back in the rear (my favorite place). One bike was forced off to the shoulder by another bike that boxed them in on their left, right into the back of another biker that had already stopped. The bike that was boxed in was riding two up and needed more space to stop. Space that the ones that were riding one up decided to occupy. We all rode together for years and thought we all knew each other and their respective reactions but, in the end, the chaos of an accident wrecked that (literally). I've seen more than enough to have learned long ago that there is nothing like lots of space between myself and anything else on the road, especially when on my motorcycle.

IMO because of some of the kinds of riders involved in formation riding, they're frequently an accident looking for a place to happen.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Police say the male motorcyclists involved in the crash were members of various biker groups such as the Hells Angels, Red Devils and Dark Siders.

No great loss there.

 

[JSt0rm]

I've also ridden in the proper formation and had the lead bike get taken out by a turkey vulture, the rest of us were able to come to a safe stop, got on the side of the road and go back to help our friend.

I have seen many accident where the bikers are riding side by side parade style and damn near all the bikes go down due to one having an issue and this includes watch police bike exhibitions

lmao. "Taken out by a turkey vulture"... nature you scary.

 

[DrPizza]

Wrong. You are counting on every single person in that group to be on the same page in the event of an emergency, which is next to impossible. I was in one pack when the lead bike lost a part of their luggage. The ensuing mayhem left two bikes disabled and three riders injured.

Everyone was properly spaced and yet it happened.

Properly spaced? Two second following distance? I find that doubtful and not typical of traffic on busier roads. But that is the proper following distance. But guess what - if you're two seconds behind the vehicle in front of you, it doesn't matter what happens to that vehicle* - you have time to react.

*obvious exceptions such as an oncoming jet attempting a landing on the roadway

 

[Londo_Jowo]

lmao. "Taken out by a turkey vulture"... nature you scary.

Damn things have a wing span of 6 to 7 feet. Apparently it was eating road kill, sound of the bikes startled it, and it took flight right into the lead bike taking the rider off the seat. Thankfully it was a mountain pass with curves so all were running 45 mph.

 

[DrDoug]

Properly spaced? Two second following distance? I find that doubtful and not typical of traffic on busier roads. But that is the proper following distance. But guess what - if you're two seconds behind the vehicle in front of you, it doesn't matter what happens to that vehicle* - you have time to react.

*obvious exceptions such as an oncoming jet attempting a landing on the roadway

The key word is "you", and "you" are not just "you" when pack riding and shit goes wrong. In this case we had a large, squarish piece of luggage bouncing in the lane (two lane rural highway) and nine motorcycles all coming at it. We sure looked great and rode with great precision as long as everything was fine but when that luggage hit the highway I watched it turn into every man for himself. Rather than paying attention to their sixes, everyone did whatever they could to avoid hitting that bouncing luggage and yet stopping as quickly as possible to be close to where the luggage would stop. Nobody had a plan for an orderly stop and park for when (what was essentially) a wheel chock was bouncing around on the road in front of them. It probably would have turned out better if the traffic in the opposite direction wasn't a constant stream (parent's day at WSU/Pullman), but that side of the road was off limits when the accident happened. We were returning from a poker run and had been riding together for over five years. Most of us grew up together on dirt bikes, so we had been riding together for a long time and knew each well. We knew what we were doing and were it doing safely, or so we thought.

Right up to when we were shown that we were wrong.

 

[NAC4EV]

As I now understand:The truck hauling the fifth wheel was attempting to turn left.

The motorcycles coming from behind were attempting to pass the truck with fifth wheel on the left.

In an attempt to avoid a collision with the fifth wheel, the motorcycles came in contact with each other, creating a domino effect and one rider, the deceased, came in contact with the fifth wheel.

IMO: If the truck was turning left the driver wouldn't have be able to see the motorcycles in his mirrors.

I now believe the motorcycles were driving to close to each other and group passing without due caution.

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[Triumph]

Did the truck/RV have its left turn signal on?

 

[NAC4EV]

Did the truck/RV have its left turn signal on?

There isn't any evidence to suggest he did or didn't.
But the same holds true for the nine motorcyclists.

One thing that's for sure. they were following to close to each other.
IMO they shouldn't have been group passing.