Huge Bit Torrent Site Shutdowns Suprnova.org, torrentbits.org, kerrazy-torrents.com ALL DOWN!

[RealityTime]

Since a few days back popular bit torrent sites torrenbits.org has gone done and kerrazy-torrents.com has removed its torrent links. Today the biggest bit torrent site on the web suprnova.org has gone down as well. Widespread theory is that the motion picture association of america has somehow applied pressure or pulled strings to affect these shutdowns. What has many people, myself included stumped is how this happened when these sites are all hosted in countries other than the usa. While yes, many of the torrents hosted on these sites connect to torrets of pirated, illegal copies, what is increasingly a source of concern, is how these sites are being shut down, when they are doing nothing illegal themselves, as no illegal content is on their servers. Yes downloading the actual games/apps/movies etc is illegal, but how is it possible that these sites are being shut down for not doing anything illegal. More than likely large scale pressure/threats is being applied, and whether or not there is any actual justifiable legal recourse against these sites, obviously the people running them are not willing to get involved in the rigmarole that would ensue if they refused. Looks like the law is being twisted and warped again to suit big business' interests.

Link : http://www.mpaa.org/CurrentRel..._14_WwdeP2PActions.pdf

 

[AcidicFury]

wow. searching is your friend. what a nub.

 

[reakon]

i think suprnova is just down for maintainance. if they had shut down, the whole site would be down, and most likely a message. but the advertisements still load, i think their servers are just screwy.

 

[igowerf]

Originally posted by: reakon
i think suprnova is just down for maintainance. if they had shut down, the whole site would be down, and most likely a message. but the advertisements still load, i think their servers are just screwy.

There WAS a message earlier today. It said that they shutting down because it's too hard to keep their servers up. Their IRC channels are still open though.

 

[Insomniak]

Originally posted by: RealityTime
but how is it possible that these sites are being shut down for not doing anything illegal.

There comes a point when knowledge and permission of crime must be considered a crime itself if the system is to deter the action.

This is why people who witness a murder and do not inform the authorities are accomplices. It is called aiding and abetting.

The reason it hasn't been applied to the internet yet (and probably never will be, at least not fully) is because the web's international institution status keeps it in the Snake Oil territory as far as the law's concerned. Who holds authority to enforce on the web? Only Al Gore knows. It's a very interesting conundrum - understand, if you're hosting in the US, but the guy in Zambia commits the illegal download, do two countries prosecute two seperate people for two different crimes? Or is the host off the hook? Furthermore, technically the host doesn't know the action took place. If a person leaves a handgun on a sidewalk and two days later a person picks it up and commits suicide, is the owner responsible? After all, he didn't know of the crime, but he knew leaving his gun there could result in something like that.

To me, this does not bode well for the future of anonymity on the internet. Big brother will get involved. Gun manufacturers, for example, have used (for good reason) the "We just create a product - what others do with it is out of our control" defense in the past. So the government started requiring licenses, registrations, etc.

I have a feeling, before too long, the so called "free frontier" of the digital world will be corraled from the proverbial Wild West it is now.

Anyway, I'm not really making a point here, just thinking out loud. Lemme know if this caused any synapses in the ole brain.

 

[MegaWorks]

Originally posted by: reakon
i think suprnova is just down for maintainance. if they had shut down, the whole site would be down, and most likely a message. but the advertisements still load, i think their servers are just screwy.

I think it's really down, god I can live without it DAMNIT!!!

 

[Malak]

Oh darn guess you have to buy your software now.

 

[Nothinman]

Yea, because everyone using BitTorrent is downloading software illegally...

 

[dighn]

Originally posted by: Nothinman
Yea, because everyone using BitTorrent is downloading software illegally...

most of the files on those sites are illegal

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: Nothinman
Yea, because everyone using BitTorrent is downloading software illegally...

People using BiTorrent don't pirate. And Santa Claus really exist.

 

[Nothinman]

But noone was forced to download the illegal ones. For example, there were Linux ISOs on suprnova regularly. And some of the things were legal in other countries even though they were legal in the US.

 

[stnicralisk]

I used suprnova to get my demos and sometimes patches because it can be a pain to find a site i dont have to subscribe to and gives a decent download speed.

 

[RealityTime]

my point was not a reference to the illegal software you could link to off suprnova, my point was it being shut down when there was no crime being commited... along with a whack of other bit torrent sites in the past week also going the way of the dodo. It just strikes me as pointless to go around violating rights to protect their copyright rights, particularly so, when there is really no way they will be able to put a stop to it regardless.

 

[stnicralisk]

Originally posted by: RealityTime
my point was not a reference to the illegal software you could link to off suprnova, my point was it being shut down when there was no crime being commited... along with a whack of other bit torrent sites in the past week also going the way of the dodo. It just strikes me as pointless to go around violating rights to protect their copyright rights, particularly so, when there is really no way they will be able to put a stop to it regardless.

They arent violating anyone's rights to your knowledge. The most likely thing is that they paid a visit to the ISP/host and said, "Hey look at this stuff here. Do you really want to host that?" Anyone who said they didnt care they probably paid. The host has the right to deny them service. However we dont even know that, that even occurred. For all we know all of these people decided to stop hosting bit torrent links on their servers without any particular cause at all.

My point is you are jumping to conclusions by saying that rights are being violated.

Edit: I read the link and I think they have a perfectly valid point. The indexers can stop from indexing the illegal files and thus should stop promoting illegal downloading. I cant say I havent downloaded anything illegal but I feel I would be an ass to contest this statement. Sure theyre not hosting the material but theyre certainly contributing. I still believe that they went to the hosts/ISP - its the easiest route.

 

[erikistired]

if there was a site that only hosted or indexed (or whatever) legal torrents i doubt they'd have a problem staying up. just because some of it was legal and some wasn't doesn't make it okay. if you want to use bit torrent for legit reasons then email the site owners and let them know. my guess is most of the traffic these sites get are from people looking for pirated software or movies/music and therefore you won't see a push to clean them up.

 

[Cawchy87]

Why are stores allowed to sell DVD-Burners and Blank DVDs/CDs? And CD/DVD burning software?

 

[Nothinman]

DVD-Burners don't say "Copy games from friends for free!!" but most torrent sites had "Click here to download this game".

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: stnicralisk
I used suprnova to get my demos and sometimes patches because it can be a pain to find a site i dont have to subscribe to and gives a decent download speed.

I can max out download speeds at places like fileplanet and fileshack, bittorrent has never done that for me. Bittorrent is ALWAYS slower than anything else.

 

[Cheetah8799]

For those of you looking for LEGAL bittorrent downloads, filerush.com is a good site.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

(dc++)++

 

[Nothinman]

I can max out download speeds at places like fileplanet and fileshack, bittorrent has never done that for me. Bittorrent is ALWAYS slower than anything else.

You've got something misconfigured then, BT easily saturates my downstream on most torrents.

 

[chowmein]

stop posting! ban REPOST

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

I can max out download speeds at places like fileplanet and fileshack, bittorrent has never done that for me. Bittorrent is ALWAYS slower than anything else.

You've got something misconfigured then, BT easily saturates my downstream on most torrents.

Not only that but you don't have to wait in line for 45 minutes to begin downloading.

 

[alent1234]

Originally posted by: Cawchy87
Why are stores allowed to sell DVD-Burners and Blank DVDs/CDs? And CD/DVD burning software?

it's legal to burn personal data as well as make backups of applications for personal use. It's legal to lend music and movies to a friend. It's not legal sharing it on the internet to millions of your closest friends.

 

[AnyMal]

Good riddance. Fvck the pirates.