HUGE AMD Disty rebates announced

[polypterus]

Because these are rebates, does that mean that these prices are temporary? Also, these rebates have created a really weird situation where the 3800 is significantly cheaper than the 3700 which didn't get the rebate. What's going to happen there? I've noticed that before these rebates s939 64 prices had actually gone up slightly since January, is this the start (finally) of a steady price decrease or just a temporary drop?

Also, are these rebates going to be reflected at newegg? Their prices didn't move today.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: SuperSix

Originally posted by: Cooler
Now we just need Intel to counter with another price cut. When there is a pricing war the consumer wins!

I'm wondering if it will flip back the way it was, AMD on the cheap, and INtel ruling the roost.

With conroe digging in I am sure that will happen...look at AMD's prices for dual cores over the last 9 months....


Also Intel will mnot lower its prices anymore...they are already taking big hits to revenues with low end products....notice their stock lately and what investors are saying???

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: swtethan
okay so the athlon 64 3200 - 3800 series single core will be rebated.... great for people who want a cheap processor, but most people on here already have one of these chips or have a better one


so we will see it like this:


AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Orleans 2000MHz HT 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 - $286 = $141

AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Venice 2000MHz HT 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 - $284 = $139

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice 2000MHz HT 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 - $185 = $109

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Orleans 2000MHz HT 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 - $189 = $113

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice 2000MHz HT 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 - $186 = $110

AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice 2000MHz HT 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 - $135 = $99

AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Orleans 2000MHz HT 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 - $135 = $99

Looks like I may be buidling some new rigs for my parents and the inlaws...they have aging AMD t-breds in the 2200-2400+ range...

 

[SuperSix]

Originally posted by: FrizQuadrata
Because these are rebates, does that mean that these prices are temporary? Also, these rebates have created a really weird situation where the 3800 is significantly cheaper than the 3700 which didn't get the rebate. What's going to happen there? I've noticed that before these rebates s939 64 prices had actually gone up slightly since January, is this the start (finally) of a steady price decrease or just a temporary drop?

Also, are these rebates going to be reflected at newegg? Their prices didn't move today.

The AM2 3200, 3500, and 3800 are rebated until 07/23/06.
The S939 3000, 3200, 3500, 3800 are also rebated until 07/23/06
The S939 3700 and 4000 and rebated until 06/25/06.

*USUALLY* with rebates this substantial, after the rebate epriod ends, the prices drop to the after rebate levels.

Actually, the Socket939 3700 *is* rebated as well - although only $30.00.

AMD did indeed slightly raise their prices, but I believe this is a steady downward trend.

Much of these price "wars" can be confusing. Look at the price of an 830 vs a 930. (245.99 vs 189.99) It makes no sense.

And now the 820/830 and 920/930 are the same price.

 

[coldpower27]

Originally posted by: SuperSix

Originally posted by: FrizQuadrata
Because these are rebates, does that mean that these prices are temporary? Also, these rebates have created a really weird situation where the 3800 is significantly cheaper than the 3700 which didn't get the rebate. What's going to happen there? I've noticed that before these rebates s939 64 prices had actually gone up slightly since January, is this the start (finally) of a steady price decrease or just a temporary drop?

Also, are these rebates going to be reflected at newegg? Their prices didn't move today.

The AM2 3200, 3500, and 3800 are rebated until 07/23/06.
The S939 3000, 3200, 3500, 3800 are also rebated until 07/23/06
The S939 3700 and 4000 and rebated until 06/25/06.

*USUALLY* with rebates this substantial, after the rebate epriod ends, the prices drop to the after rebate levels.

Actually, the Socket939 3700 *is* rebated as well - although only $30.00.

AMD did indeed slightly raise their prices, but I believe this is a steady downward trend.

Much of these price "wars" can be confusing. Look at the price of an 830 vs a 930. (245.99 vs 189.99) It makes no sense.

And now the 820/830 and 920/930 are the same price.

It kinda does, the Smithfield core is more expensive to make then Presler hence with the Pentium 9xx Series has more wiggle room to fall.

With the 820/830 and 920/930 being the same price that is Intel setting a absolute minimum floor price for their processors.

Right now no Pentium D 9xx sequences price is gonna go below 178US. Thtat is the absolute floor price for the Pentium D 9xx. If more powerful models exist at the same price point just get the better one.

 

[nyker96]

I think AMD has squeeze money outta customers for the past year or so byt selling things at premium i.e. X2 that cost way too much etc. So I don't feel bad that they had to cut their high price for consumers now they are no longer in a position to demand it. Conroe bring the price God on us now ...

 

[Viditor]

Originally posted by: nyker96
I think AMD has squeeze money outta customers for the past year or so byt selling things at premium i.e. X2 that cost way too much etc. So I don't feel bad that they had to cut their high price for consumers now they are no longer in a position to demand it. Conroe bring the price God on us now ...

Excuse me? You do realise that Intel's ASP (that is their Average Sale Price) for chips is ~$150 while AMD's is just over $100...
While it's true that Intel hasn't been able to sell their P4 and PD chips for very much, they've MORE than made up for it in their "premium price" for their mobile chips.
By comparison to just a few years ago, the X2 is absolutely dirt cheap even now!

 

[R3MF]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: SuperSix

Originally posted by: Cooler
Now we just need Intel to counter with another price cut. When there is a pricing war the consumer wins!

I'm wondering if it will flip back the way it was, AMD on the cheap, and INtel ruling the roost.

With conroe digging in I am sure that will happen...look at AMD's prices for dual cores over the last 9 months....


Also Intel will mnot lower its prices anymore...they are already taking big hits to revenues with low end products....notice their stock lately and what investors are saying???

agreed, AMD can afford to resume that position because its chips are much smaller, and have ~ half as many transistors as the Intel dual-cores.

 

[SuperSix]

Originally posted by: Viditor

Originally posted by: nyker96
I think AMD has squeeze money outta customers for the past year or so byt selling things at premium i.e. X2 that cost way too much etc. So I don't feel bad that they had to cut their high price for consumers now they are no longer in a position to demand it. Conroe bring the price God on us now ...

Excuse me? You do realise that Intel's ASP (that is their Average Sale Price) for chips is ~$150 while AMD's is just over $100...
While it's true that Intel hasn't been able to sell their P4 and PD chips for very much, they've MORE than made up for it in their "premium price" for their mobile chips.
By comparison to just a few years ago, the X2 is absolutely dirt cheap even now!

Do you have any data to back up that ASP claim? I have to call shens on that.

 

[Viditor]

Originally posted by: SuperSix

Originally posted by: Viditor

Originally posted by: nyker96
I think AMD has squeeze money outta customers for the past year or so byt selling things at premium i.e. X2 that cost way too much etc. So I don't feel bad that they had to cut their high price for consumers now they are no longer in a position to demand it. Conroe bring the price God on us now ...

Excuse me? You do realise that Intel's ASP (that is their Average Sale Price) for chips is ~$150 while AMD's is just over $100...
While it's true that Intel hasn't been able to sell their P4 and PD chips for very much, they've MORE than made up for it in their "premium price" for their mobile chips.
By comparison to just a few years ago, the X2 is absolutely dirt cheap even now!

Do you have any data to back up that ASP claim? I have to call shens on that.

Not that I can show you (it's from a very expensive report that I buy and is under NDA).
However, I seem to recall seeing it in several places on the Web, you might try a Google search...

Edit: BTW, I should mention that Intel desktop ASPs are absolutely dismal (near half or less of what they were a year ago...)

 

[kknd1967]

It is really hard to choose between intel and amd given "their recent moves" on the computex show

Which do you like better?