HTC One vs Samsung Galaxy S4 vs Nexus 4

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ChronoReverse

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Well you need to provide the consumer with sufficient internal storage OR an option for removable storage. A big issue with the One X last year at AT&T was that it came with 9 GB of internal storage with no SD card slot. Some people like to counter that you can just use the cloud but that really isn't a perfect solution.

This. Before I broke my One X, I was utterly constrained by the tiny storage space. It felt ridiculous that I had to reencode my music to fit it on the phone (so I could use PowerAmp instead of the terrible Google Music) which I hadn't needed to since my Nexus One.

Seriously, it's a flagship phone, at least put 32GB on it if you're not going to put a microSD card slot in it.
 
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Google's cloud is horrible, when i got the One X I uploaded all my music so I could access it from it. I then found out that the only app that can be used is the Google Music one, which is pure trash. A year later I see nothing has changed. Google wants everyone to use the cloud, but they don't want to open the API's for it so other developers can make apps that can utilize it. And people carry on about how open Android is lulz.

Google Cloud is awesome.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169761

And do you really think its Google calling the shots here? Its pure 100% record labels prevent Google from releasing API's.

Think.
 

QueBert

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Google Cloud is awesome.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169761

And do you really think its Google calling the shots here? Its pure 100% record labels prevent Google from releasing API's.

Think.

Why does it matter to Interscope if I play the music from the Google Music app or the PlayerPro app? And even if they did care for some reason, Google could make an app that will allow programs like Playerpro to interface with the cloud. And just so you know, Google is going to be opening this up one day when they feel like it. This at least according to someone on the Poweramp team. The feature to access Google Cloud music will come when Google gets off their ass basically.

Google Cloud SUCKS, it's lucky for me that someone on XDA has figured it out and released an app that allows me to listen to MY music on MY phone with the app I want. I serious doubt labels give a shit, I mean my Roomie has 8 thousand songs on his Google Cloud, yet he only owns 4 albums and has bought zero songs off Google Play, you figure it out...
 
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Why does it matter to Interscope if I play the music from the Google Music app or the PlayerPro app? And even if they did care for some reason, Google could make an app that will allow programs like Playerpro to interface with the cloud. And just so you know, Google is going to be opening this up one day when they feel like it. This at least according to someone on the Poweramp team. The feature to access Google Cloud music will come when Google gets off their ass basically.

Google Cloud SUCKS, it's lucky for me that someone on XDA has figured it out and released an app that allows me to listen to MY music on MY phone with the app I want.

That's like asking why do Record labels want to prevent people from ripping music off CD's, or duplicating Mp3's, or playing Blu-Ray movies on "out of date" blu ray players.

Its because its their IP and they are allowed to try and protect it. In this case, its MUCH easier to place restrictions on Google, because if Google doesn't follow their restrictions, the record labels will NEVER give them access to song licenses to sell.
 

QueBert

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That's like asking why do Record labels want to prevent people from ripping music off CD's, or duplicating Mp3's, or playing Blu-Ray movies on "out of date" blu ray players.

Its because its their IP and they are allowed to try and protect it. In this case, its MUCH easier to place restrictions on Google, because if Google doesn't follow their restrictions, the record labels will NEVER give them access to song licenses to sell.

Then Google should make an attempt to make Google Music something other than the worst player on Android. If label's cared about their IP they wouldn't allow people to upload 20k songs to a cloud. How many people legally own 20k songs?
 

Red Storm

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Then Google should make an attempt to make Google Music something other than the worst player on Android. If label's cared about their IP they wouldn't allow people to upload 20k songs to a cloud. How many people legally own 20k songs?

I think Google Music is awesome. You're welcome to your opinion, but you only seem interested in blaming Google for everything you're upset about.
 
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Then Google should make an attempt to make Google Music something other than the worst player on Android. If label's cared about their IP they wouldn't allow people to upload 20k songs to a cloud. How many people legally own 20k songs?

Do you have anything else to do than picking on smaller and smaller subsets of arguments after every single argument you have is shot down?

Google Music works fine. It caches music, it plays music, and it has an equalizer.

And how the hell do YOU know how many people actually own 20k songs. Maybe if Google had their way, they would have unlimited songs on the cloud. You can't know that.

I personally have several thousand tracks uploaded to Google music of classical music and operas that I legally own.
 

QueBert

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Do you have anything else to do than picking on smaller and smaller subsets of arguments after every single argument you have is shot down?

Google Music works fine. It caches music, it plays music, and it has an equalizer.

And how the hell do YOU know how many people actually own 20k songs. Maybe if Google had their way, they would have unlimited songs on the cloud. You can't know that.

I personally have several thousand tracks uploaded to Google music of classical music and operas that I legally own.

several thousand is nowhere close to 20k, and Interscope isn't the reason I can't LISTEN to songs on my Nexus 4 using Player Pro. It's Google, the developer of Poweramp has spoken about this, Google's holding up shit here not Interscope, not Sony, not Warner Brothers. If Interscope cared they'd force Google to actually, I dunno check shit? If Google ran a scan on my Roommates cloud songs ID3 tags they'd see 99% have a "ripped by [name & group]" and delete his shit down. There are also multiple apps on the Play Store that let you download tracks to listen to in any player on your phone. Why isn't Interscope forcing Google remove those? Google's lazy here simple as that.
 
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pauldun170

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All this cloud and streaming reminds me of my 2gb a month dataplan.
Yup...definitely going need that sd card.
...GS4 16gb on pre-order
 

lopri

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Frankly I am not that picky of colors on mobile devices (small screen). I am quite a bit picky on desktop monitors and TVs, though.

If I were as picky on mobile as on desktop, I would have thrown out the Nexus 4, Nexus 7, and heck even the iPhone 4/4S and the original iPad. Especially the N7 is quite bad despite its high contrast ratio. But I'm OK with it until something better comes along - better in general, not just the screen.

Having said that, it seems to me the LCD still holds the edge when it comes to color accuracy over the OLED. Whether/how much that matters on your mobile devices (given the other differences in each technology) depends on individual, I suppose.
 

hawtdawg

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Frankly I am not that picky of colors on mobile devices (small screen). I am quite a bit picky on desktop monitors and TVs, though.

If I were as picky on mobile as on desktop, I would have thrown out the Nexus 4, Nexus 7, and heck even the iPhone 4/4S and the original iPad. Especially the N7 is quite bad despite its high contrast ratio. But I'm OK with it until something better comes along - better in general, not just the screen.

Having said that, it seems to me the LCD still holds the edge when it comes to color accuracy over the OLED. Whether/how much that matters on your mobile devices (given the other differences in each technology) depends on individual, I suppose.

That's not true actually. It seems as though most people are making judgements based on the dynamic/automatic settings that are default. There is a Movie and Photo mode that are very accurate. In fact, the Movie mode makes the S4 more accurate than the iPhone and HTC

http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-ga...firms-amoleds-can-finally-do-accurate-colors/
 

lopri

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Well, what I am saying is color accuracy isn't as important on mobile than on desktop (IMO). Mobile, by definition, means the device will be exposed to different and unpredictable lighting environments. If you're doing work in your office or watching a Blu-Ray in your personal cinema - in such controlled environments, accuracy matters much more.

If OLED is on par with LCD as to color accuracy, that's good to hear. I have nothing against technology advancing.

Can anyone explain to me what each of the graph means in this pic?

http://anandtech.com/show/6914/samsung-galaxy-s-4-review/8 (bottom of the page)

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