HTC M4 rumor pops up again

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One mini perhaps? (Or, as one commenter suggests, the One Half.)

4.3" 720p dual-core (I'd guess Snapdragon 400), 2GB RAM 16GB storage, same styling... this really is the Android iPhone. End of Q2 puts its release in the next two months.

Btw, my guess is that Verizon will release this and not the "real" One. This doesn't compete with the DNA the same way the big One did.
 
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Shame they always cut back on the specs when making a smaller phone. Does a quad core Snapdragon 600 not physically fight into a 4.3 inch phone or something? :p
 

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Wait a second. From Android Central's article...
1700mAh battery
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Its an HTC device. Like all their phones, the battery will be 20% smaller than competing devices, which perpetuates the myth that Android has poor battery life. :/
 

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Its an HTC device. Like all their phones, the battery will be 20% smaller than competing devices, which perpetuates the myth that Android has poor battery life. :/

As opposed to Motorola & Samsung who stuff gynormous batteries into a phone to try and perpetuate a myth that Android doesn't have piss poor battery life.

I'm not an expert here, but if you have to stuff the biggest battery possible into a phone to get good battery life, the phone really doesn't have good battery life to begin with.
 

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As opposed to Motorola & Samsung who stuff gynormous batteries into a phone to try and perpetuate a myth that Android doesn't have piss poor battery life.

I'm not an expert here, but if you have to stuff the biggest battery possible into a phone to get good battery life, the phone really doesn't have good battery life to begin with.

You're right you are no expert. It's not just good battery life, it's great battery life, leading ALL other phones. And these "gynormous" batteries are in phones that are rather slim and look no different than the competition.
 

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You're right you are no expert. It's not just good battery life, it's great battery life, leading ALL other phones. And these "gynormous" batteries are in phones that are rather slim and look no different than the competition.

Yep, who would have guessed the phone with the biggest battery would have the best battery life! My point stands, regardless of how slim the phone is/feels, it requires an ungodly large battery to not have piss poor battery life. I mentioned nothing about the looks, you did. My original statement's 100% valid.
 
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Yep, who would have guessed the phone with the biggest battery would have the best battery life! My point stands, regardless of how slim the phone is/feels, it requires an ungodly large battery to not have piss poor battery life. I mentioned nothing about the "looks" you did. My original statement's 100% valid.

No, they could have put a normal battery in there like other phones that last the typical day just like all the other phones out there. Instead they went with a bigger battery to go above and beyond the norm and give you a phone that can last several days. All without any noticeable cost in design. It's nice having that option.

Everyone here already knows you like to whine about anything Android, I just find I have to time to respond to it in this thread.
 

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No, they could have put a normal battery in there like other phones that last the typical day just like all the other phones out there. Instead they went with a bigger battery to go above and beyond the norm and give you a phone that can last several days. All without any noticeable cost in design. It's nice having that option.

Everyone here already knows you like to whine about anything Android, I just find I have to time to respond to it in this thread.

My Nexus 4 has a typical size battery, it doesn't last a typical day "just like all other phones" it lasts about as long as Android phones that have typical size batteries. Which is to say, not good at all. I will be charging my phone by 3 this afternoon, it was 100% when I left my house this morning.
 

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My Nexus 4 has a typical size battery, it doesn't last a typical day "just like all other phones" it lasts about as long as Android phones that have typical size batteries. Which is to say, not good at all. I will be charging my phone by 3 this afternoon, it was 100% when I left my house this morning.

Go and check the other thread asking what phones we've had. I've had the Nexus 4, I had the Galaxy Nexus, I had the S3, I had a Droid X, I had an iPhone 4. All of these phones lasted me through a typical day. And I'm not alone.
 

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Go and check the other thread asking what phones we've had. I've had the Nexus 4, I had the Galaxy Nexus, I had the S3, I had a Droid X, I had an iPhone 4. All of these phones lasted me through a typical day. And I'm not alone.

And go on XDA you'll see I'm not alone in people who have to charge their Nexus 4 before a days up. I guess you weren't a power user *shrug*
 

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This is far better than the Galaxy S3 mini launch last year.
It's the same -- specs from a year back. It's just that a year back from now we definitely hit a good enough zone.

Yeah, Snapdragon 400 is a rebadged dual-Krait S4plus.
 
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And go on XDA you'll see I'm not alone in people who have to charge their Nexus 4 before a days up. I guess you weren't a power user *shrug*

Some users just spend 24/7 on wifi or whatever. That's fine and all, but that doesn't make the phone more battery friendly. I carry an iPhone 5 and a Nexus 4 and I swear it just doesn't do well. If you look at GSM Arena's endurance test, the Nexus 4 sucks in battery life. Hell my SGS2 does better.

With purely anecdotal evidence, I've always gotten through a day's worth of use whether it's my Droid 1 or Nexus S, SGS2, or Nexus 4. However, while battery capacity has shot up I honestly have NOT seen any improvements in runtime for battery life. Comparing heads up with my SGS3 friends, my Nexus 4 just doesn't last as long even if I barely turn it on. I get ~5%/hour drain normally and I end the day with maybe 1 hr SOT only. Google Latitude and Now drain quite a bit, and as Brian Klug suggested, it may be that the lack of network batching is really hurting AOSP.

The fact is, iOS and its efficient OS doesn't require a giant battery. It's all in optimization. You can already see Samsung and HTC doing that with their phones.

It's the same -- specs from a year back. It's just that a year back from now we definitely hit a good enough zone.

Yeah, Snapdragon 400 is a rebadged dual-Krait S4plus.

Yeah, that's fine though isn't that? It's plenty fast. Sure I'd love a flagship 4.3" too but this 4.3" isn't shabby at all. At least it's not some craptastic dual A9. What I'm saying is this midrange is far better than the GS3 Mini that was marketed at midrange last year. I don't see people dumping their GS3s calling them crap because the dual Krait can't handle things....
 
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Its an HTC device. Like all their phones, the battery will be 20% smaller than competing devices, which perpetuates the myth that Android has poor battery life. :/

This doesn't even make any sense. Does that imply that an iPhone (which most likely would have a smaller battery) with a similar battery and specs will have a shorter battery life?
 
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This doesn't even make any sense. Does that imply that an iPhone (which most likely would have a smaller battery) with a similar battery and specs will have a shorter battery life?

He's obsessed with "myths." He still calls fragmentation a "myth." I'm not seeing how the battery thing is a myth either.
 

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You can already see Samsung and HTC doing that with their phones.

If anything Samsung went the wrong direction from the Note 2 to the SGS4 (I think all these eye tricks eat the battery). And HTC only achieved better than average battery life on the One by destroying Android multitasking.
 

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This is definitely an upgrade over some previous attempts at smaller phones, but it's still unfortunate that they're cutting features too. I want to see a true high end phone at that size. Still, progress is progress.
 

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nothing wrong with bigger battery for extended battery life. I love what Motorola and Samsung are doing with larger batteries. I wish HTC would catch up.

Just like my fiance's iPhone 5, it doesn't last a day either because she is a heavy user. She could use Razr Maxx all day and have 35% left before sleep.

Bigger battery is ALWAYS better as long as the form factor is still slim enough.