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HS Senior prank gone bad : Friends involved Update

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Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: broon
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: broon
Originally posted by: moshquerade
come on . . . one harmless prank and it's like the school wants them dead.
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Now who's overreacting?
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dead... as in never existed.

and it will seem that way to anyone reading the graduation list.
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Only to someone overreacting. I would notice that their names weren't there and think maybe they didn't graduate. Of course if I were there to see them specifically, I'd know why they weren't there.
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Wait - where did it say they weren't on the list of graduates? I read that they weren't allowed to attend the ceremonies, not that they weren't allowed to graduate.
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it said they were not mentioned either.

i never said they weren't allowed to graduate. i am sure they had their diplomas mailed to them.

 
moshquerade, look at the post above yours and my previous post.

And now days you don't get your diploma when you walk across the stage either. Usually you have to pick it up from the school the day after ceremonies.
 
Originally posted by: broon
moshquerade, look at the post above yours and my previous post.

And now days you don't get your diploma when you walk across the stage either. Usually you have to pick it up from the school the day after ceremonies.
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so we agree on that?

 
can't do the time, don't do the crime!

on that note, they should have walked but gotten hella community service.
 
Agree on what? That their names weren't mentioned? Sure. They don't mention your name unless you are there.
 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: broon
Ok so what's the big deal? How does that make the school wish they never existed?
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they wiped them off the face of graduation.
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We don't know that, they weren't allowed to walk the stage, so their names were not read. Thats standard practice in graduations. You don't attend, your name isn't read.

But I guess their names were still included in all the graduation bulletins handed out at graduation, which usually includes all the graduating seniors, even the ones not in attendence.

I'd like to here from moomoo40moo, if indeed these are his friends, if that was the case.
 
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: moshquerade

and as far as the breaking & entering... if people would read the article, they entered through an open door, hardly a forced entry.
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Bolded since people don't seem to be able to read.
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The group met at a Weston grocery store, and when they got to the school, Schmidt said he and Rask entered the building through a door wearing nylon stockings over their heads because of security cameras.

Italicized since some people seem to inject their assumptions as fact when discussing articles.
 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
they wiped them off the face of graduation.
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Oooohhh the drama. They weren't wiped off the face of graduation anymore than the student who didn't care to attend so his name wasn't read....or the student who was sick and couldn't make it.

The people that go only care about their relative. I doubt if anyone there missed them that much. Anyone that knew them enough to miss them knew why they weren't there.
 
That story seems similar to my friends and I. We too broke into the school, but we did it better.
1) We didn't get caught and
2) Instead of going in an open door we took off a sky light, lowered a rope, and climbed down.

We did get caught for being drunk at our graduation rehersal and got banned from graduation tho. That wasn't cool.
 
Originally posted by: broon
Originally posted by: moshquerade
they wiped them off the face of graduation.
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Oooohhh the drama. They weren't wiped off the face of graduation anymore than the student who didn't care to attend so his name wasn't read....or the student who was sick and couldn't make it.

The people that go only care about their relative. I doubt if anyone there missed them that much. Anyone that knew them enough to miss them knew why they weren't there.
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eh, you are making a lot of assumptions.
and it's not the same as someone who was sick or didn't want to attend. these guys were able and probably willing and not allowed.

how about you stop trying to impose your opinion on me, and realize mine is just as valid as yours.

 
Your reasoning is flawed. All the school did was not allow them to attend the ceremony. This doesn't mean they weren't rewarded for graduation. They did graduate. They got their diploma. The school punished them the only way they could. The school couldn't require community service. They don't have that jurisdiction.

Would you rather the school allow them to attend but then press criminal charges against them? What's worse for their future? How would you suggest the school punish them within their abilities?
 
As I informed my students, nobody loves a good practical joke more than me...
but (again)
1. Can't break the law, that includes breaking into places..
2. Can't harm or risk harm to anyone, including emotional harm
3. Has to be creative; a bucket of water falling from a door is NOT creative
4. Can't cause someone a hardship, such as having to clean up some sort of mess.

edit: while they broke rule #1, I still think the school over-reacted.
 
lol they got busted for a dumb prank... if they at least had done something more original or gutsy...
 
yeah, 2 of them are with me right now, i think their names were on the list of graduates, but their names were not said at all. They will get the diplomas mailed to them tho.
 
Also, the door that they went through had a broken latch and would open, but the police said they jimmied it with grease, but they didn't. I think another issue is the security of the school. The administration said that was not the issue right now.
 
man, now I feel left out. For my senior prank, I didn't bother going to graduation. According to my friends and family, the principal read my name off about 8 times before someone told him I wasn't there.

The next day he told me that I had to go to saturday class punishment if I was to get my diploma. I told him to get bent and that I would sue him when I decided I wanted it. Well, that was in 1999. I now work at a college and I am about to attend classes for some extra education. My transcripts were mailed and list me as graduated, so I guess he was all talk after all, maybe one of these days I'll go pick my diploma up.
 
1. Budgets are tight in schools, and it costs money and time to get someone to clean that mess up. Except the school year was already over since it was the night before graduation, so it really was harmless.
2. Kids need to learn that if they pull a prank in the real world, there can be grave consequences. Better a slap on the wrist now than expulsion from graduate school later.
3. The consequence offered is just as harmless as the prank in this case. At my HS one of the valedictorians couldn't attend graduation because she doesn't wear dresses, and the sexist dress code required girls to wear dresses, and only boys were allowed to wear suits.
 
Originally posted by: DrPizza
As I informed my students, nobody loves a good practical joke more than me...
but (again)
1. Can't break the law, that includes breaking into places..
2. Can't harm or risk harm to anyone, including emotional harm
3. Has to be creative; a bucket of water falling from a door is NOT creative
4. Can't cause someone a hardship, such as having to clean up some sort of mess.

edit: while they broke rule #1, I still think the school over-reacted.
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The law they broke was disorderly conduct, which refers only to the fact that they were playing a practical joke at all - not the nature of the joke or when/where/how it was played.

If this example does not pass your qualifications for #1, Dr. Pizza, then you need to revise your criteria and explain to your students that you simply do not approve of any kind of practical jokes/senior pranks. period.
 
If someone filled my house up with empty bags of air.....I would laugh, not have them arrested. Thats just silly. ITS A PRANK--be thankful they didnt faak up the school, or do stupid stuff like grafitti.

-Monzi
 
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