HS Senior prank gone bad : Friends involved Update

[K1052]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

and as far as the breaking & entering... if people would read the article, they entered through an open door, hardly a forced entry.

Bolded since people don't seem to be able to read.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: IndieSnob
Harmless or not, B&E is illegal.

If I were to B&E into your home, and pull a prank would you say "Oh, it's just a harmless prank"?

Intent should be taken into consideration. They were doing a prank, not robbing or destroying the place.

Since when do pranks require stockings over your face?

Schmidt said he and Rask entered the building through a door wearing nylon stockings over their heads because of security cameras.

I think that pretty clearly shows what their intent was.

umm that shows that they did not want to be identified, nothing else.

they weren't even arrested for breaking and entering, they were arrested for disorderly conduct ...

 

[thirtythree]

I didn't go to graduation by choice, so I wouldn't care much.

 

[Nozirev]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: broon

Originally posted by: moshquerade
i can have an opinion, correct? i happen to think it's bullsh!t. they went to school for 13 years, and being they were "good kids" with with what i am presuming no other offenses, i feel they should at least have been noted as graduates not made out as if they never existed.

Opinions aside. They did something illegal and the school punished them for it. I don't think it's as extreme as not allowing students go to prom or graduate because they were ticketed for MIP off school property.

again, i don't disagree that they should be punished, only with the punishment.

How else was the school going to punish them. They graduated that night. They did the prank the night before graduation. After graduation night, they aren't students anymore. How can you punish them then.

Also, where I went to HS, participation in graduation ceremonies is not a right, its a privilege. They were not expelled, they were prevented from participating in graduation ceremonies.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Nozirev

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: broon

Originally posted by: moshquerade
i can have an opinion, correct? i happen to think it's bullsh!t. they went to school for 13 years, and being they were "good kids" with with what i am presuming no other offenses, i feel they should at least have been noted as graduates not made out as if they never existed.

Opinions aside. They did something illegal and the school punished them for it. I don't think it's as extreme as not allowing students go to prom or graduate because they were ticketed for MIP off school property.

again, i don't disagree that they should be punished, only with the punishment.

How else was the school going to punish them. They graduated that night. They did the prank the night before graduation. After graduation night, they aren't students anymore. How can you punish them then.

Also, where I went to HS, participation in graduation ceremonies is not a right, its a privilege. They were not expelled, they were prevented from participating in graduation ceremonies.

they've been arrested, and charged with disorderly conduct. if you've read my responses i suggested community service, cleaning school grounds, something along that line.
i guess what bugs me more is not that they couldn't attend the graduation ceremonies, but they did not even have their names listed as graduates and their names could not be spoken either.

come on . . . one harmless prank and it's like the school wants them dead.

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: IndieSnob
Harmless or not, B&E is illegal.

If I were to B&E into your home, and pull a prank would you say "Oh, it's just a harmless prank"?

Intent should be taken into consideration. They were doing a prank, not robbing or destroying the place.

Since when do pranks require stockings over your face?

Schmidt said he and Rask entered the building through a door wearing nylon stockings over their heads because of security cameras.

I think that pretty clearly shows what their intent was.

umm that shows that they did not want to be identified, nothing else.

they weren't even arrested for breaking and entering, they were arrested for disorderly conduct ...

If they weren't doing anything wrong, why would they care whether they were identified?

 

[broon]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
come on . . . one harmless prank and it's like the school wants them dead.

Now who's overreacting?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: broon

Originally posted by: moshquerade
come on . . . one harmless prank and it's like the school wants them dead.

Now who's overreacting?

dead... as in never existed.

and it will seem that way to anyone reading the graduation list.

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: eigen

Originally posted by: JEDI

Originally posted by: moomoo40moo
http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/wdhlocal/286798627835203.shtml

What do you guys think?

"When the officer ordered them to stop, one continued south, but Hahn was taken into custody and handcuffed. Thomas later identified him as one of the students who had been inside the school."

never follow police direction if you've commited a crime. ALWAYS run and try to get away with it. there's no downside!

you stop, and get arrested like this fool did. make that cop burn off that donut he ate for lunch.

Yeah but when they catch you they hurt you more.I speak from experience.

risk/reward

if the cop catches you, you get thrown down on the ground and maybe get a scrape on the knee.

if you elude him... PROFIT!

risk/reward

 

[Baked]

Originally posted by: hevnsnt
That's retarded.

Fixed and agreed.

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
was just a prank. those in charge are overreacting.

still breaking and entering.

 

[Kenazo]

Originally posted by: Nozirev

Originally posted by: IndieSnob
Harmless or not, B&E is illegal.

If I were to B&E into your home, and pull a prank would you say "Oh, it's just a harmless prank"?

Exactly, if eight kids filled your house with garbage bags full of air while you weren't there, would you say, oh its a harmless prank. No you'd call the police. And when they were arrested you'd want them charged.

Will they end up being convicted of felonies, no a chance, but they did break the law, and as a result they should be punished. Since they are graduating, they only punishment the school can give out is not allowing them to participate in graduation ceremonies. If they let them, then what would prevent people from doing it or something worse next time.

A bunch of friends filled our house with balloons when we were on our honeymoon. We know who did it too, maybe we'll have to charge them... 🙂

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: IndieSnob
Harmless or not, B&E is illegal.

If I were to B&E into your home, and pull a prank would you say "Oh, it's just a harmless prank"?

Intent should be taken into consideration. They were doing a prank, not robbing or destroying the place.

Since when do pranks require stockings over your face?

Schmidt said he and Rask entered the building through a door wearing nylon stockings over their heads because of security cameras.

I think that pretty clearly shows what their intent was.

umm that shows that they did not want to be identified, nothing else.

they weren't even arrested for breaking and entering, they were arrested for disorderly conduct ...

If they weren't doing anything wrong, why would they care whether they were identified?

of course they were doing something wrong. who is saying they weren't? 😕

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
was just a prank. those in charge are overreacting.

still breaking and entering.

did you even read the article? 😕

 

[tami]

that is the stupidest punishment for a harmless prank. next time, they should ride a golf cart in the school's swimming pool. :roll:

 

[broon]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: broon

Originally posted by: moshquerade
come on . . . one harmless prank and it's like the school wants them dead.

Now who's overreacting?

dead... as in never existed.

and it will seem that way to anyone reading the graduation list.

Only to someone overreacting. I would notice that their names weren't there and think maybe they didn't graduate. Of course if I were there to see them specifically, I'd know why they weren't there.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: broon

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: broon

Originally posted by: moshquerade
come on . . . one harmless prank and it's like the school wants them dead.

Now who's overreacting?

dead... as in never existed.

and it will seem that way to anyone reading the graduation list.

Only to someone overreacting. I would notice that their names weren't there and think maybe they didn't graduate. Of course if I were there to see them specifically, I'd know why they weren't there.

the overreaction was on the school's part.

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: Nozirev
How else was the school going to punish them. They graduated that night. They did the prank the night before graduation. After graduation night, they aren't students anymore. How can you punish them then.

Also, where I went to HS, participation in graduation ceremonies is not a right, its a privilege. They were not expelled, they were prevented from participating in graduation ceremonies.

Just like voting is a priveldge? or jury duty is a priveldge?

it depends on how much you value the priveldge.

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: broon

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: broon

Originally posted by: moshquerade
come on . . . one harmless prank and it's like the school wants them dead.

Now who's overreacting?

dead... as in never existed.

and it will seem that way to anyone reading the graduation list.

Only to someone overreacting. I would notice that their names weren't there and think maybe they didn't graduate. Of course if I were there to see them specifically, I'd know why they weren't there.

Wait - where did it say they weren't on the list of graduates? I read that they weren't allowed to attend the ceremonies, not that they weren't allowed to graduate.

 

[Kenazo]

Originally posted by: JEDI

Originally posted by: Nozirev
How else was the school going to punish them. They graduated that night. They did the prank the night before graduation. After graduation night, they aren't students anymore. How can you punish them then.

Also, where I went to HS, participation in graduation ceremonies is not a right, its a privilege. They were not expelled, they were prevented from participating in graduation ceremonies.

Just like voting is a priveldge? or jury duty is a priveldge?

it depends on how much you value the priveldge.

Lol, that's a great spelling of privilege.

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: IndieSnob
Harmless or not, B&E is illegal.

If I were to B&E into your home, and pull a prank would you say "Oh, it's just a harmless prank"?

Intent should be taken into consideration. They were doing a prank, not robbing or destroying the place.

Since when do pranks require stockings over your face?

Schmidt said he and Rask entered the building through a door wearing nylon stockings over their heads because of security cameras.

I think that pretty clearly shows what their intent was.

umm that shows that they did not want to be identified, nothing else.

they weren't even arrested for breaking and entering, they were arrested for disorderly conduct ...

If they weren't doing anything wrong, why would they care whether they were identified?

of course they were doing something wrong. who is saying they weren't? 😕

😕

 

[Toasthead]

pretty lame

 

[Syrch]

stupid, no harm would have come from that prank!

 

[broon]

They did graduate. They weren't allowed to attend the ceremony. The article said (for dramatic effect) that no one was allowed to mention their name. If you don't attend because you don't want to your name won't be mentioned either.

 

[Nozirev]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Nozirev

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: broon

Originally posted by: moshquerade
i can have an opinion, correct? i happen to think it's bullsh!t. they went to school for 13 years, and being they were "good kids" with with what i am presuming no other offenses, i feel they should at least have been noted as graduates not made out as if they never existed.

Opinions aside. They did something illegal and the school punished them for it. I don't think it's as extreme as not allowing students go to prom or graduate because they were ticketed for MIP off school property.

again, i don't disagree that they should be punished, only with the punishment.

How else was the school going to punish them. They graduated that night. They did the prank the night before graduation. After graduation night, they aren't students anymore. How can you punish them then.

Also, where I went to HS, participation in graduation ceremonies is not a right, its a privilege. They were not expelled, they were prevented from participating in graduation ceremonies.

they've been arrested, and charged with disorderly conduct. if you've read my responses i suggested community service, cleaning school grounds, something along that line.
i guess what bugs me more is not that they couldn't attend the graduation ceremonies, but they did not even have their names listed as graduates and their names could not be spoken either.

come on . . . one harmless prank and it's like the school wants them dead.

Wait, did I miss something, they weren't allowed to attend, I didn't see where it said they weren't listed as graduated. In fact I'd be very surprised if that was the case. I mean graduation bulletins are usually made in advance, containing all the name of every graduate - including the ones not attending. So I would be very surprised if the school spent all that time to remove them from the bulletin.

Also I wouldn't have read their names off at the ceremony has they weren't there. You read off names as they walk across the stage. If you aren't there, there isn't a point to read the names.