HP Proliant Dual Opteron 248 Server - $104.95 after shipping

[TwiceOver]

Geeks.com has the opteron 64-bit version G2 for ~100 shipped $75 before shipping with only 1gb ram. I ended up getting one of those for a co-lo project because I had the ram laying around.

 

[jimbob200521]

Geeks.com has the opteron 64-bit version G2 for ~100 shipped $75 before shipping with only 1gb ram. I ended up getting one of those for a co-lo project because I had the ram laying around.

Damn...wish I would have seen that first simply because I know that one has SATA. Oh well, they make adapters for a reason I guess

 

[TwiceOver]

Damn...wish I would have seen that first simply because I know that one has SATA. Oh well, they make adapters for a reason I guess

Yeah, at $100 shipped I just couldn't pass it up. Also there is room for a second 3.5" drive which was really important to my project. I would think the Xeon setup would have sata.

 

[Wandering]

I tried posting this once but didnt go through. A second try.

This is an HP ProLiant DL140 G1

These are the specs on it.

http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/11821_na/11821_na.html

 

[batmanuel]

I'm assuming this would run Windows Home Server just fine with a hard drive upgrade. It could be a nice addition to a home network if you have a data closet at your house to shove it in.

 

[jimbob200521]

I'm assuming this would run Windows Home Server just fine with a hard drive upgrade. It could be a nice addition to a home network if you have a data closet at your house to shove it in.

Yes, it should run Windows Home Server just fine, but keep in mind that since this is a 1U size computer, you will only be able to fit 2 hard drives in it, so unless you have externals, future upgrade options may be a bit limited...

Edit: Then again, on second thought, with 1tb and 2tb hard drives becoming ever cheaper and more common, you may only need one or two hard drives in a computer

 

[rchiu]

Certainly a good deal. I bought one of those before but the noise was just too much. I ended up gutting it and putting it into another server box.

 

[Wandering]

HP ProLiant DL140 G1

Here are the specs of these servers. Right from the HP website.

h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/11821_na/11821_na.HTML

 

[Wandering]

HP ProLiant DL140 G1

Here are the specs of these servers. Right from the HP website.

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/11821_na/11821_na.HTMLh18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/11821_na/11821_na.HTML

 

[Wandering]

...... 4th attempt. This is an HP DL140 G1.

• ServerWorks GC-SL Chipset with 533-MHz FSB
• 1-GB or 512-MB of PC2100 DDR SDRAM running at 266MHz with Advanced ECC capabilities standard, expandable to 4 GB
• Integrated Dual Broadcom 10/100/1000 NICs (Wake on LAN and PXE capable)
• Integrated Dual Channel Ultra ATA/100 Adapter (ATA Models)
• Support for up to two 1" ATA/100 Non Hot Plug hard drives
• One PCI-X 64-bit/133MHz PCI slot operating at 3.3 volts
• Internal storage capacity of up to 320 GB (2 x 160-GB non-hot plug 1" ATA/100 HDDs)
• Integrated ATI Rage XL with 8MB SDRAM video
• 325W Power Supply (Non-Hot Plug, autoswitching)
• Four USB ports (two rear, two front)

Since the FSB is 533 it is a socket 604.

google for
HP DL140 g1 specs
to easily find the link to the quick specs on the HP site. Currently it is the second result using those keywords.

Geeks.com has the opteron 64-bit version G2 for ~100 shipped $75 before shipping with only 1gb ram. I ended up getting one of those for a co-lo project because I had the ram laying around.

That is a better deal.

 

[jimbob200521]

Yeah, I really wish I had known about the Opteron PC before I purchased this Xeon model. Not that either one are bad Servers, just would have preferred to get the best bang out of my dollar.

 

[Goosemaster]

Yeah, I really wish I had known about the Opteron PC before I purchased this Xeon model. Not that either one are bad Servers, just would have preferred to get the best bang out of my dollar.

woah - the geeks.com sever has pci-e,sata,16GB max,64bit,ilo.......not even a close contest...

 

[jimbob200521]

Ok, since my order is still in the Processed stage at pacificgeek.com, I'm going to call them tomorrow and try and cancel my order in favor of the Opteron machine. I hope it goes well *crosses fingers*

 

[syadnom]

Do some math here. This P4/Xeon system uses a lot power. It is TWICE as power hungry as a modern server. The CPU itself is 100W x2 plus the system is right around 100W. You will chew up 300W with this machine pretty much all the time. 300W x 24h x 365 = 2628KW = $315 dollars worth of power per year at $.12 per KW. The geeks.com DL145 will save you about 75W per hour will cost around $235.

here are the reasons to buy server hardware instead of desktop PCs of servers
1 Redundant power supplied, this means uptime.
2 CPU and RAM capacity, more slots for more performance
3 Vendor support is safeguard investment.

the servers being talked about here provide NONE of these things. Consider getting a Dell vostro220 or Dell T100 which is more powerful that either both in this thread and uses so much less power that it would be cheaper over a single year. I have a T100 with dual drives and a Core2Duo and my Killawatt puts it at around 145W usage.

If you are looking for a really basic server look at a sheevaplug or guruplug. They use 5W which cost about $5-6 per year and costs $99 for a 1.2Ghz ARM cpu.

I run 3 of the sheevaplug dev devices. 1 web server, 1 NAS server, and 1 as a router(because its about 5 times faster than a WRT54G). These are excellent little servers for a tiny investment. They run debian linux and you can tack on webmine if you like or buy the tonidoplug version that has packed up some options.

 

[TwiceOver]

Do some math here....

the servers being talked about here provide NONE of these things. Consider getting a Dell vostro220 or Dell T100 ...

If you are looking for a really basic server look at a sheevaplug or guruplug. They use 5W which cost about $5-6 per year and costs $99 for a 1.2Ghz ARM cpu.

I run 3 of the sheevaplug dev devices. 1 web server, 1 NAS server, and 1 as a router(because its about 5 times faster than a WRT54G). These are excellent little servers for a tiny investment. They run debian linux and you can tack on webmine if you like or buy the tonidoplug version that has packed up some options.

I highly doubt these servers would run 300w all of the time. I would bet around 200ish. But I would have to agree with you, if you need a basic server, buy something else. I purchased the G2 Opteron version because I needed something 1u.

Those SheevaPlug things look pretty cool. I don't really know what I would do with one, but they look cool.

 

[Goosemaster]

agreed

Do some math here. This P4/Xeon system uses a lot power. It is TWICE as power hungry as a modern server. The CPU itself is 100W x2 plus the system is right around 100W. You will chew up 300W with this machine pretty much all the time. 300W x 24h x 365 = 2628KW = $315 dollars worth of power per year at $.12 per KW. The geeks.com DL145 will save you about 75W per hour will cost around $235.

here are the reasons to buy server hardware instead of desktop PCs of servers
1 Redundant power supplied, this means uptime.
2 CPU and RAM capacity, more slots for more performance
3 Vendor support is safeguard investment.

the servers being talked about here provide NONE of these things. Consider getting a Dell vostro220 or Dell T100 which is more powerful that either both in this thread and uses so much less power that it would be cheaper over a single year. I have a T100 with dual drives and a Core2Duo and my Killawatt puts it at around 145W usage.

If you are looking for a really basic server look at a sheevaplug or guruplug. They use 5W which cost about $5-6 per year and costs $99 for a 1.2Ghz ARM cpu.

I run 3 of the sheevaplug dev devices. 1 web server, 1 NAS server, and 1 as a router(because its about 5 times faster than a WRT54G). These are excellent little servers for a tiny investment. They run debian linux and you can tack on webmine if you like or buy the tonidoplug version that has packed up some options.

 

[jimbob200521]

Updated original post to include the Opteron model.

 

[TwiceOver]

Received my Proliant G2 Opteron system

What a beast! Sounds like a jet, but that is OK for my setup. The 80gb drive is a SATA1.5 Maxtor DiamondMax drive. The second drive bay is wired and ready to go, just drop in a drive (same with the cdrom bay if you have a slim cd drive). There are two PCI-X ports one requires a short depth style bracket and the other is full sized. There is a PCI-e x16 port but it is set far back in the board. Obviously meant for some type of add-in raid controller like you would find in a Dell PERC setup.

The fans are obviously loud, but also redundant. Mine came with 2x512mb Micron ECC DIMMs. The front lights are power, disk, net2, net1, iLO.

For what I need it to do, should be great. Will be annoyingly loud durning the setup, but that only takes 30 minutes.

 

[rsolomon]

Has anyone tried replacing the CPUs? I have a stack of Opteron 885 dual-cores - would love to get them into a system! Too bad geeks sold out the 4GB version

Richard

 

[psihog]

when you guys talk about server processing power. what exactly does that mean? is the G2 dual opteron cpus better at certain tasks than a new dual/quad desktop PC?

 

[cubeless]

when you guys talk about server processing power. what exactly does that mean? is the G2 dual opteron cpus better at certain tasks than a new dual/quad desktop PC?

that's the rub here... it's really just a price thing, since a c2d at the same speed would outprocess these by a bunch... but you can't beat the price on these if you don't need big horsepower to do what you are doing...

 

[TwiceOver]

Should also note that if you actually plan to rack mount these, you'll need the HP rails which are fairly costly.

 

[mvbighead]

Should also note that if you actually plan to rack mount these, you'll need the HP rails which are fairly costly.

http://www.trademoon.com/Product372383.aspx

Not sure about the site, but $50 isn't too bad.

Scratch that, those are for G1s... G2s a bit more costly:

http://www.trademoon.com/Product375297.aspx

 

[AmdEmAll]

I really really want one of these G2 servers. Im just worried about the jet engine sound.

Think it could handle disabling some of the fans or doing another cooling solution or does this thing naturally run hot?

 

[rsolomon]

I really really want one of these G2 servers. Im just worried about the jet engine sound.

Think it could handle disabling some of the fans or doing another cooling solution or does this thing naturally run hot?

IME those short cases are really dependent on a lot of air velocity since they can't get much air volume otherwise. I suspect you'll be near jet-engine levels no matter what - but I imagine you could put thermally controlled fans, etc in - but that'd probably run the price way up.

Richard