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HP Proliant DL385 G2 and XP Pro 64bit?

SSSnail

SSSnail

Lifer
I called HP supports and asked but they're next to useless, so I'm relying on the powers of AT.

I am in the process of recycling two HP Proliant DL385 G2 servers, and I specifically want to put XP Pro 64bit on it. Server 2003 is not needed for what I want to do with these blades and it's also cost prohibitive to do so. What I want to know is, are there any dependencies or drivers that may not work with the blades if I put XP Pro 64bit on them?

I absolutely need Windows OS on them, so alternative OSes are out of the question.

Thanks in advance.
 
The DL385 G2 is not a blade server.

That aside, any modern server is going to support Windows Server 2003 64-bit, and XP 64-bit has the same kernel, so everything should work unless the installation package specifically checks for server 2003 and terminates if it doesn't find it.
 
My approach to these types of situations:
If I can get the vendor (whether we're talking about hardware or software) to give me a green light that the environment I'm planning to build is supported, then I continue with the project. If they won't confirm that it's supported, then it's time to move to plan B. Even if I try it and run it in a test environment for x days before production, I (personally) wouldn't be comfortable unless I've had the vendor tell me it's OK. At the end of the day, I'm the one responsible for the stability of the environments that I build, and I don't have the luxury of being able to gamble with my paycheck.

Maybe you just haven't talked with the right person at HP. When you say they're "next to useless", what exactly did they tell you to make you get that impression?
 
It's not unexpected that HP wouldn't offer support for a desktop OS on their server. Dell does the same thing. If they support an OS, they have to test it, be prepared to answer questions, and offer drivers. There's no profit in that since people don't buy these servers originally to put a desktop OS on them.
 
seepy83 said:
Maybe you just haven't talked with the right person at HP. When you say they're "next to useless", what exactly did they tell you to make you get that impression?
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The person I was talking to said "It said on our website that XP Pro 64bit is not on the list of supported OS".

Well, whatever the DL385 G2 is, it looks like a blade to me... albeit a "thicker" blade. If you want to be politically correct about it, I'll call it a "rack mount server" if that makes you happy theevilsharpie. 😛

I do have the luxury of playing around with these, so I guess I'm just gonna try to put XP on it and see what happens.

I want to re-use these since they're already paid for, and I have some applications that I can stick on these blades (sorry theevilsharpie), after some more RAMs upgrade 😉.
 
SSSnail said:
The person I was talking to said "It said on our website that XP Pro 64bit is not on the list of supported OS".

Well, whatever the DL385 G2 is, it looks like a blade to me... albeit a "thicker" blade. If you want to be politically correct about it, I'll call it a "rack mount server" if that makes you happy theevilsharpie. 😛
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they gave you their answer, and the right one at that. short of saying "you moron, its not on the list" they couldnt have been any plainer.

and the dl385 only looks like a blade server because theyre both rectangles made of metal and plastic.

the 380 is quite a bit larger than a blade...which is not the same as a rackmount server. its not politically correct...its the same misunderstanding you have about operating systems: you dont care what other people call things and just assume youre correct (even when you arent)

now im curious: how is it you have 2 decent (albeit oldish) rackmount servers and no idea what support for them is like....and what can you possibly need both of those bastards for and want to run xp 64 bit on it?

jesus....at least go for windows 7
 
Alright, so what are the DL385 then? What do YOU call it? And no shit that I can read what the supported OS are, I called and ask if he could find out on the off-chance that it does support XP. In pure monkey script reading fashion, he just said "not on the list", but go on and blast me. To me, they're all "blades" if they're not a big fuking box.

As to answer your question, these are recycled items and I have uses for them and the applications that I intend to use them for are most stable under XP. If I knew the answers to the question, I wouldn't have posted this here in the first place.

Kindly get off your high horses.
 
The ProLiant DL385 is a 2U rackmount server. It's WAY bigger than a blade. But, simply, it's just a rackmount server that's two Rack Units tall. And it is a pretty big fucking box.

According to the quickspecs (http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/12565_na/12565_na.HTML#Overview) the processors in the system are 64-bit, so you've got that going for you. Any idiot who has spent any time working on workstations and servers in the last 7 years should know that drivers for Windows XP and Windows 2003 are largely interchangable, due to the fact that the kernels are identical. You may not be able to execute the PSPs, but you can still extract the drivers and install them manually.

Windows XP 64-bit will NOT, however, be a supportable configuration under warranty, which is why HP tells you it's not a SUPPORTED operating system. Big difference between SUPPORTED and COMPATIBLE. It may be COMPATIBLE, but HP isn't going to SUPPORT it.
 
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Thank you internet heroes!

Damn, last time I'd come in here. Seems like a bunch of guys that's bent on getting a hard-on for nitpicking, serves you really well I bet.

Since I didn't spend the last 7 years "working on workstations and servers", but I merely have the use for some old fuking boxes, I thought "HEY, maybe I can use these instead of recycling them". Of all the answers posted in this thread, two gave some what relevant answers, one gave somewhat relevant answer, but nitpick first. And the other two are just that, crap. Well done!

Now, run along and pat yourselves in the back, you awesome workstations and servers guys.
 
When my laptop had to go to HP for warranty repair I turned my DL380G3 into an XP workstation. I used Professional so that it wouldn't error out installing the SNMP agents and stuff, but using the Windows Server 2003 drivers worked for me for the most part. I had to download and install them individually, if you use the Windows Server 2003 driver and application package installer it errors out telling you it's not a supported OS. Overall it wasn't too bad though. I know that's not really helpful, but that was my experience.
 
SSSnail said:
Thank you internet heroes!

Damn, last time I'd come in here. Seems like a bunch of guys that's bent on getting a hard-on for nitpicking, serves you really well I bet.

Since I didn't spend the last 7 years "working on workstations and servers", but I merely have the use for some old fuking boxes, I thought "HEY, maybe I can use these instead of recycling them". Of all the answers posted in this thread, two gave some what relevant answers, one gave somewhat relevant answer, but nitpick first. And the other two are just that, crap. Well done!

Now, run along and pat yourselves in the back, you awesome workstations and servers guys.
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There are people that are good at being an IT Professional, and people that are bad at it. The people that are good at it don't take unnecessary risks. It's not nitpicking...it's risk analysis.
 
seepy83 said:
There are people that are good at being an IT Professional, and people that are bad at it. The people that are good at it don't take unnecessary risks. It's not nitpicking...it's risk analysis.
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And that is all and well, but NONE of you know what the hell I'm going to do with the boxes, yet you assumed that I'm taking unnecessary risks. I could be using them to play PONG just because I can, but that's irrelevant. I guess some of you lots just see the word "blade" and went on a huffing fit, without reading the rest of it, otherwise you'd have seen the word RECYCLE.

All I asked was if anybody know of any problems from FIRST hands experience if I put XP on them. I didn't ask for nomenclature corrections, I didn't ask for a risk analysis, and I certainly didn't ask for help desk mentality supports. You can almost tell who's doing what by the answers they provide; technically correct but useless answers will never get you anywhere far.

People that KNOW the actual answers don't care about the things that won't matter, and for that I thank you heymrdj (someone that actually have first hands knowledge instead of being an internet know-it-all "IT professional").

Most of you can now return to your workstations where you are the captain of your universe and all knowing and powerful.
 
If you do not have a current warranty or support agreement on that hardware, I say load whatever you can get to work on it. After reading through the thread, I think there was only one person who went negative about you calling it a blade.
 
SSSnail said:
And that is all and well, but NONE of you know what the hell I'm going to do with the boxes, yet you assumed that I'm taking unnecessary risks. I could be using them to play PONG just because I can, but that's irrelevant. I guess some of you lots just see the word "blade" and went on a huffing fit, without reading the rest of it, otherwise you'd have seen the word RECYCLE.

All I asked was if anybody know of any problems from FIRST hands experience if I put XP on them. I didn't ask for nomenclature corrections, I didn't ask for a risk analysis, and I certainly didn't ask for help desk mentality supports. You can almost tell who's doing what by the answers they provide; technically correct but useless answers will never get you anywhere far.

People that KNOW the actual answers don't care about the things that won't matter, and for that I thank you heymrdj (someone that actually have first hands knowledge instead of being an internet know-it-all "IT professional").

Most of you can now return to your workstations where you are the captain of your universe and all knowing and powerful.
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you really need to relax.
and if you think IT people dont care about things that dont matter, then you havent run into enough IT people. geeks get asinine about all sorts of things.
 
By the time you finish reading this thread you may as well try loading XP on the RACKMOUNT servers and see if it works. 🙂
 
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