HP Pavilion 6330, XP 1800/1900+, Motherboard

[jayu]

Hi ,
My brother in law gave his hp pavilion 6330 to fix up/or upgarde. I turn it on. It does not do anything.Not even power on. He says afer he changes modem, some days after his modem fries. and all his phone line is dead. and computer wan't start, not even fan from powersupply.
- He wants me to upgrade it. around 300 dollars.
- THis computer have a AMD K6-2/300 processor.

My Question is

1. What is basic problem with comuter powersupply, or motherboard ?Can I just fix it, insted upgrade?

2. What kind of motherboard it takes , I don't know ATX, Micro ATX....?, right now on one chip it says SIS something. I want to use same case
3. What type of motherboard does it have?

Question regarding upgrade.?

I am thinkig about upgrading to XP 1900+ system.

1. which motherborad should I Use.,
2. If I upgarde I neea graphics card too,? which one ?
3 Memeory type, cost.

Can I do it around 300 dollars.

Thank you
Jayesh

 

[Asrial]

A modem CAN cause a computer not to turn on (though it's mainly a "no POST" issue instead of a "no power" issue).

I would strip the computer down to essentials required to POST (and detect a POST). Motherboard, process, memory, power, video.

If a surge hit, the power supply might be fried. If the processor was fried, the fans would still turn on (same with the modem as I mentioned above).

If it's something that needs to be fixed, you're probably better off just replacing the component.

I doubt it's a Micro ATX motherboard. It's probably an AT. The visual difference between AT and ATX is that the power cables to the motherboard on an AT system are split in two (and you have to match black next to black) and an ATX is one complete piece. Another difference between AT and ATX is that ATX can go into standby by pressing the power button whereas the AT just turns on and off.

If you're wanting to upgrade to a 1900+, you're going to need to upgrade the motherboard. To start with, I suggest the ASUS A7V333. I got mine for around $100 and it's a good quality board. Look around and see what catches your interest.

What graphics card are you using currently? Are you wanting to do some serious gaming or casual home use? Are you wanting to do a little bit of gaming? I find that "right now at this point in time" my Voodoo4 4500 (32mb) PCI video card and my Athlon 1600+ easily get me by.

Memory depends on the motherboard. If you go with the A7V333, I'd suggest some PC2100 memory. I got mine from Crucial for about $67 (256mb version). You don't "need" anymore than 256k. I'd say get that much to start with, and then maybe add some more in the future.

$300 is a tight budget.

You're looking at a processor (120 or so), motherboard (100), memory (at least 50), heat sink and fan (30ish for something "adequate"), possibly a power supply (don't skimp here, 60 minimum).

Hope this helps.

 

[jayu]

Thank you.
- I opened pc. I took out modem. still it does not start(no fan on).
- Motherboard integrated sound and audio.
- I cheked mobo, its size is appro. 12" x7.5 ",
- In the case, one whole raw of whole left. so I think, it can fit litte bit big motherboard.
- This PC is going to be used for Home Use, game by kids studying in middle schoo, not any heavy games, surfing net, homework etc.

Questions.
1. Is it good idea to get integrated graphics, sound in mobo. likeAsus nForce220 v. Abit nForce420 v. MSI KM266
2. Should I go for Asus like u suggest or integrated mobo. The reason is that, If I going to upgrade I might need a hard drive too, it got right now 4 gb.
3. Accrding to info I gave regarding case and mobo, Can U suggest ATX, or Micro ATX,

THe Powersupply says max.output 110 watt .

 

[Asrial]

110 watts? Yikes!

I'd look there for the reason on why your computer isn't powering on.

There's nothing harmful about integrated graphics/sound on a motherboard, just don't expect the power you can get from a device devoted to it. If you're wanting to save money, you could probably get by with them instead of having to buy another device.

I'd say, go with a motherboard that has integrated sound and video and see how it works for you. If games your kids are playing are running really slow and they're pestering you about it, it's simple enough to upgrade the video to a cheap "reliable" card for no more than $60. There shouldn't be any issues with sound as that's an area of the computer world that doesn't advance all that much in technology.

I have my own components so I'm not the best person to give advice on integrated audio/sound that's good

As for the integrated motherboard or the ASUS, I'm confused on what you mean. Do you mean your current motherboard or a new one? If you're wanting to upgrade the processor to a high end one, you're most likely going to have to change the motherboard too because the new processor won't be supported.

For power, just go with ATX. It's the common "desktop computer" power type.

 

[jayu]

I finally ordered Asus A7N266-VM nForce, which has integrated graphics and sound. cost $81, and Athlon XP1800+ Retail $85 at googlegear . I need a power supply. I think my powersuppy is micoatx, since it is micor atx.

I don't know hot to pic p/s since most just says atx p/s.

1. What shoud I look to order micro ATX p/s and compatible with my Mobo.

I have not orderd memory yet, but may be I buy from Local Bestbuy or Compusa If I found Chip. I am thinking about 256 DDR MB( one stick)

 

[Asrial]

Originally posted by: jayu
1. What shoud I look to order micro ATX p/s and compatible with my Mobo.

For $60, I got an Antec TruePower 380 watt power supply. It does what I need it to do and I haven't had any issues with it.

What you want to look at with power supplies is amperage for the different rails (look over AMD's technical docs on recommended power supplies). Also, it's better to go with a power supply that has a fan underneath of it (over the CPU).

Your motherboard is an ATX motherboard so that's what you want to stick with on the power supply.

http://usa.asus.com/mb/socketa/a7n266-vm/specification.htm

The link to the motherboard if anyone else wants to chime in.