hp desktop c2d upgrade; help please

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VirtualLarry

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http://ark.intel.com/products/33922/Intel-Core2-Quad-Processor-Q9300-6M-Cache-2_50-GHz-1333-MHz-FSB

will q9300 run on this desktop?

http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c01715975

or would an e8400 run on this motherboard?

i'm looking at the FSB also, and wondering if 800 is a factor in this equation

PSU is no big deal, I can swap it for a 500w easily

From that HP link:

Processor upgrade information

Motherboard supports the following processor upgrades:

Intel Core 2 Quad (Y) Q9xxxx

Intel Core 2 Duo (W) E8xxx

Intel Core 2 Quad (K) up to Q6600

Core 2 Duo E6x00 (C) up to E6700

Core 2 Duo E4x00 (C) up to E4400

I think that the answer is "yes", at least at first glance.

I would make sure that the BIOS is updated to the newest available, before dropping in an upgraded CPU.

What CPU is in there currently?
 

fire400

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it's a pentium, e5300 @ 2.6GHz

it took hours, hours, trying to update windows 7, and it was 200 something updates even on SSD. it's decent on windows 7, but the updates never even downloaded past 0%... 'cuz the pentium was so-so slow! once I upgraded it to windows 10, everything was more fluid and the system starts in seconds and downloads updates much quicker, like minutes.
not sure if I need the upgrade anymore, but I already ordered the part on ebay, should I still put it in? it's a Q9300 (95w TDP), and I have AS5 paste for it, too.

here are the specs, it's for a quad monitor setup for an office:

pentium e5300
6gb DDR-2
geforce GT730 (x3 monitors)
usb trigger video adapter (x1 monitor)
120gb_CS1311_SSD
stock PSU

everything runs fine so far without the q9300. will it see any performance difference on just web surfing and microsoft office? it can already play 1080p video just fine.

i can get a brand new 500w aftermarket no-name brand PSU put into this, would that be a good idea?
because I'm wondering how a 95w TDP CPU will push the stock liteon 300w power supply?
 
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cbn

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i can get a brand new 500w aftermarket no-name brand PSU put into this, would that be a good idea?
because I'm wondering how a 95w TDP CPU will push the stock liteon 300w power supply?

The stock PSU should be fine with the Q9300.
 

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i can get a brand new 500w aftermarket no-name brand PSU put into this, would that be a good idea?
because I'm wondering how a 95w TDP CPU will push the stock liteon 300w power supply?

Don't get noname PSUs.
 

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e5300 is 2 cores @ 2.6GHz with 2MB cache
q9300 is 4 cores @ 2.5GHz with 6MB cache

The larger cache (3MB shared between each pair of cores vs 2MB) should offset the 100MHz speed difference so the biggest difference is twice the cores. In typical desktop duties, you may see slight improvement but not that much. If you do anything CPU intensive though (video editing/compressing, etc) those extra cores will have a substantial impact.
 

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i can get a brand new 500w aftermarket no-name brand PSU put into this, would that be a good idea?

You'd honestly be 1,000x better off to spend $10-15 more, and get a 300 or 350 watt Seasonic 80+, that will likely outlive both of us, instead of wasting money on a no-name piece of crap that will take out multiple pieces of your hardware when it dies in a month or so, in a fiery crash. I do agree though that the OEM 300 watt LiteOn will be more than enough for a Q9300 and a GT 730.
 
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fire400

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817154026

this apex PSU unit was a pull from a pre-built i7-6700, 970GTX ibuypower branded tower system, which was replaced with a corsair CX750. the apex PSU only ran for 20 seconds to make sure the system would even turn on.
guess i'm not putting it in, then.

i'm planning on putting the seasonic PSU recommendation into the HP tower. thanks for the info, guys.
 

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If its at all possible try to get a E8600 if you go with a dual core.
 

fire400

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"If its at all possible try to get a E8600 if you go with a dual core."
-was gonna get it for $10, but it was no longer available from a seller.

e5300 is 2 cores @ 2.6GHz with 2MB cache
q9300 is 4 cores @ 2.5GHz with 6MB cache

The larger cache (3MB shared between each pair of cores vs 2MB) should offset the 100MHz speed difference so the biggest difference is twice the cores. In typical desktop duties, you may see slight improvement but not that much. If you do anything CPU intensive though (video editing/compressing, etc) those extra cores will have a substantial impact.

moved it to the q9300, and tested the system. with the SSD on win10 OS, the system is so fast and responsive with ms-office/internet multitasking on all 4 monitors, it's hard to tell the difference between a modern i3/i5 CPU desktop win10 OS environment.

was it worth the upgrade, for a $20 cpu? hell yes...
 
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myocardia

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this apex PSU unit was a pull

Read this review of that exact PSU that Jonny Guru did a few years ago. It went up in a cloud of blue smoke, before he even got halfway through with his tests. Never use an el cheapo power supply, unless you're a fan of buying new components that were plugged into one. Link to Jonny Guru review of that PSU.

edit: El cheapo is not a description of price, it's a description of build quality, and component quality.
 

VirtualLarry

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moved it to the q9300, and tested the system. with the SSD on win10 OS, the system is so fast and responsive with ms-office/internet multitasking on all 4 monitors, it's hard to tell the difference between a modern i3/i5 CPU desktop win10 OS environment.

was it worth the upgrade, for a $20 cpu? hell yes...

That's good to hear. The Q9300 is (still) a fairly viable processor. In fact, I'm using mine right now, with a 50GB Vertex2 SSD, and Win7 64-bit SP1. Fairly decent performer, but maybe a little low on ST speed at stock.