how's this for sucking? my prof. wrote the class textbook

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walk into my management class and find out that I got the teacher that wrote the management book we have to use. The directions she can take this situation is mind-boggling. To paraphrase her, "im gonna push your buttons...if you have an 89.99999% in class, you still have a B as far as I'm concerned." :|
 

trmiv

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That sucks, I HATE when the teacher writes the book. In my Quantitive business analysis class this semester, the professor wrote the book. And, get this, he didn't include an answer key for the odd problems (like every math book known to man) in the book, instead you have to PAY EXTRA and buy the answer key off of his website!
 

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<< That sucks, I HATE when the teacher writes the book. In my Quantitive business analysis class this semester, the professor wrote the book. And, get this, he didn't include an answer key for the odd problems (like every math book known to man) in the book, instead you have to PAY EXTRA and buy the answer key off of his website! >>



which reminds me...the prof. was clear in stating that she does not get royalties from the books that are sold at the school but she does from everywhere else. Is this a law or does the publisher/school/author(s) decide that?
 

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<< which reminds me...the prof. was clear in stating that she does not get royalties from the books that are sold at the school but she does from everywhere else. Is this a law or does the publisher/school/author(s) decide that? >>



I think that's an individual choice. When I was an undergrad, my bio prof was the author of the textbook we used. He was cool about it, however, and gave back the royalties he would have made to each student that bought a new book. It was actually a good book, and I have it to this day.
 

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<< That sucks, I HATE when the teacher writes the book. In my Quantitive business analysis class this semester, the professor wrote the book. And, get this, he didn't include an answer key for the odd problems (like every math book known to man) in the book, instead you have to PAY EXTRA and buy the answer key off of his website! >>



what a fscker! :D
 

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SO far during my college career, I have had like 8 professors write the books. pretty hard to bs 'em. ;)
 
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This reminds me of a story my sister told me. She was in this class and about 2 weeks into it the teacher asked the students what they thought so far. One of them started ranting about how much the book sucked and whomever wrote it didn't know what the hell they were talking about. Well it was the teacher that wrote book, but she didn't say anything at the time. Then at the end of the class someone told the girl that went off on the rant and she turned white as a sheet and never came back. :)
 

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Too bad for you guys. My teacher wrote our Control Systems text book, and its a first edition printing. He also told us that for every mistake we found in the book (be it some mathematical error or just a good old spelling error) we got a point on our final average. Needless to say, people came into the final exam w/ pages and pages of errors in the book. Not many people got B's in that class...

It was a welcome break from all the a$$ rapings we take in all our other classes here...
 

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All my business classes have books written by my professors... Business Law, Management, and Finance...

Their all taught through tv replay though, so theres not much to have to BS :)
 

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That sucks, I HATE when the teacher writes the book. In my Quantitive business analysis class this semester, the professor wrote the book. And, get this, he didn't include an answer key for the odd problems (like every math book known to man) in the book, instead you have to PAY EXTRA and buy the answer key off of his website!

Ahhh, T
I see that you are sharing your fondness of our professor with ATOT. Hey everyone, he is not joking. This professor is ridiculous. I think there is at least one or two words a class he uses, that I have never heard of. I don't have time to take notes, and look at a dictionary at the same time.
I really hate it when professors talk above the heads of the students
 

trmiv

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<< Too bad for you guys. My teacher wrote our Control Systems text book, and its a first edition printing. He also told us that for every mistake we found in the book (be it some mathematical error or just a good old spelling error) we got a point on our final average. Needless to say, people came into the final exam w/ pages and pages of errors in the book. Not many people got B's in that class...

It was a welcome break from all the a$$ rapings we take in all our other classes here...
>>




If mine and Calcio's quantitative business analysis professor did that, he would have to hand out A+++++++++++++++'s to everyone in the class. I have never seen a book with so many errors.
 

Calcio

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For Example. In the quantitative business analysis book our prof wrote, there is a diagram of what we are going to cover, and what will will not have time for. All the stuff in "red" is what we are to learn. Too bad the whole damn book is in black and white
 

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Well, I don't know -- at least you know the professor knows the stuff. I'm a grad student and if I get to professor level, I'll definitely write a book or two so I know the stuff in it is important and good. It is a little raw that the person is profitting off of it, but you did say it was a business class, didn't you? Perhaps a lesson in itself...

Of course there are bad books that professors write, but I don't think it's intrinsically bad that a prof writes the book. Can be a very good thing.
 

trmiv

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<< Well, I don't know -- at least you know the professor knows the stuff. I'm a grad student and if I get to professor level, I'll definitely write a book or two so I know the stuff in it is important and good. It is a little raw that the person is profitting off of it, but you did say it was a business class, didn't you? Perhaps a lesson in itself...

Of course there are bad books that professors write, but I don't think it's intrinsically bad that a prof writes the book. Can be a very good thing.
>>



This book is very, very, very bad. It flat out sucks.
 

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Every prof that I had my last two years in college wrote the book with the exception of 4 gen ed classes. Even the theatre prof wrote her own book. At least you won't be getting conflicting methodologies.
 

minendo

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The professor for my FS 307 class (Food Process Engineering) is currently writing the textbook. Every week or so we receive a new chapter. Now thats fun.





<< I just have 8 hours of Chem. lab a week. >>



that sucks. luckily this semester i dont have any chem labs, but next sememster i have quantitative chem. i start chem at 12:30 on wednesdays and get out at 5:30. and thats just chemistry, i have 14 other credit hours to fit in somewhere.
 

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Jeez, you guys, welcome to the real world. Especially if you're going in for business, you should relish this little exercise and milk it for all it's worth, because it is what will separate the men from the boys once you start trying to succeed.

The prof wrote the book? And it sucks? Okay, the lesson here is not "how do I convince the prof that I know more than he does, the moron" but "how can I use this to my advantage?". Answer one is MEMORIZE that damn book. Toss references into casual classroom conversation like "as it says on page 112, the blah blah blah" or whatever. Step two is to research the market. Is his textbook the top seller in all the land, or is it used solely in his classroom? Find sales statistics, find reviews. If it's a widely used book, suck up, er, congratulate your prof on being a leader in his field. If it's a dud, go heavy on the "visionary" or "clever thinker" or "hey dude, you actually got your RA's to write a book", whatever you think the prof will respond to.

Step three, read a bunch of other texts so that you can say "in your text apples are purple, but in Smith & Jones apples are blue. Could you tell us why Smith & Jones are such idiots?" This is powerful stuff. Anyone who can succeed at this in the real world will be king of the hill.

Good Luck.

 

MaxDSP

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ease up sciencetoy. yea the situation could be seen as an advantage depending on how you look at it. I see it as a slight disadvantage since the prof. will know if you're BSing or not when you do an assignment that requires the textbook.
 

littleprince

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Forget that. My prof is like 80 something years old, and made up the NP complete theorem or whatever it is. I have no idea what hes talking about.
 

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My semiconductor physics prof. was WRITING the book that we use! We get the alpha version that's copied and binded together. And occasionally we have to buy new/revised pages off the prof's affiliated copying store.