Howard Stern fans - O the sweet irony

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: Hafen
George W. Lieberman has always been a douchebag and trying to enforce limits and censorship and Hollywood, music industry and whomever; same with Tipper Gore. They are the #1 reason I didn't vote for Gore in 00'.

Hillary is just as disappointing, but not unexpected as she's (and Lieberdouche) have made a beeline to the Right most parts of the Democratic party/ social moderates.

Quoting the most socially conservative parts of the Left hardly represents a general view of the leftist viewpoint.

My point was simply that it is not just the radical right pushing for censorship.

 

[Bitek]

Originally posted by: broon
IF this is real, I don't see it as being any different than E! or MTV or any other cable/satellite broadcast channel being censored. The only channels not censored are movie channels. Eventually satellite radio will be censored and you'll have to pay more to get premium uncensored channels. Stern will then move to one of those.

Says who and why?

 

[broon]

Originally posted by: Hafen

Originally posted by: broon
IF this is real, I don't see it as being any different than E! or MTV or any other cable/satellite broadcast channel being censored. The only channels not censored are movie channels. Eventually satellite radio will be censored and you'll have to pay more to get premium uncensored channels. Stern will then move to one of those.

Says who and why?

To which part? Why would it be different?

My last two statements are just a guess as to what will happen. I was pretty young when cable came out so I don't remember it all but I think it was pretty unregulated in the beginning.

 

[NeoV]

if you have a problem with Senator's objecting to sex scenes hidden in video games, why?

The content in the GTA games is bad enough as it is, but the scenes they left in the game are just idiotic, even if it needs a mod to find them.

 

[MiniDoom]

Originally posted by: NeoV
if you have a problem with Senator's objecting to sex scenes hidden in video games, why?

The content in the GTA games is bad enough as it is, but the scenes they left in the game are just idiotic, even if it needs a mod to find them.

I have a problem with Senator's objecting to sex scenes hidden in video games intended for adults.

 

[BDawg]

I've heard that the movement to censor Stern is based on the fact that Sirius cannot channel block to keep adult content away from children. XM is able to set up channel blocks to keep kids away from explicit material.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: raildogg

Are the Democrats going to lose again in 06 and 08?

Yep, looks that way.

Lets all thank EatSpam and others for the Republican gains and Demoncat losses.

"Demoncats"? You're really scraping the bottom of the barrel for your stupid partisan invective. Are you 100% happy with the way the Republican party is being run at the moment?

As for the topic at hand, I don't buy it at all. The NY Post, and its sister outlet Fox News are just trying to undermine Howard (while, ironically, giving him free publicity). Nothing to see here . . .

LMAO, partisan? On whose side? Just because I don't like the current Demoncats doesn't I favor Republicans.

We need a third party to challenge both of these corrupt parties.

 

[Bitek]

Originally posted by: BDawg
I've heard that the movement to censor Stern is based on the fact that Sirius cannot channel block to keep adult content away from children. XM is able to set up channel blocks to keep kids away from explicit material.

No, that's wrong. My radio has a channel lock to lock out any station, and I've heard them discussing they can lock channels through acct management as well. As stated, this is just a hardware issue and is no reason Congress should step into a paid, private subscription service and mandate what content is acceptable or not.

As an adult and parent, it is up to you to take responsibilty what content you provide to your children, whether it is renting R-rated movies or buying them GTA or a Sirius radio and subscription, and not exercising acct management. It is not freely available, so there is no basis to claim "protecting children."

Really, when it gets down to it, there are far worse things readily available for free, such as explicit violence on network TV (should young kids really be watching people being brutally murdered and autopsied on CSI or Law and Order?) not to mention all the crap you can find on the intarnets (even through school computers.) Besides, Stern's notority for explict shocking material is overblown, mostly by his detractors. I hear far worse language and conversation in public most days.

The big fight is really over symbols and small groups trying to control content between other adults under the guise of protection.

 

[JS80]

Too bad Sirius will go broke in 2 years.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: EatSpam
The RRR folks around here should be thrilled. After all, if its not acceptable to the RRR folks, then no one should be allowed to see it or hear it!

Who was it who was up in arms over the GTA Hot Coffee incident? None other than Joe Lieberman and Hillary Clinton.

Lieberman is a DINO... he's more right-wing on some issues than Bush, especially those related to Israel and the Middle East. Its no surprise to me that he would take an RRR angle on censorship. Connecticut needs to give him the boot... a Repub might be more left wing than him.

And Hillary Clinton, well, she's doing her best pandering job. She doesn't want to run for President, ya hear? 🙂 IIRC, she didn't get the best response to that round of pandering. I doubt you'll hear from her on this kind of issue again.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: BDawg
I've heard that the movement to censor Stern is based on the fact that Sirius cannot channel block to keep adult content away from children. XM is able to set up channel blocks to keep kids away from explicit material.

Not true. You can block channels of your choice on Sirius as well (at least you can on my Starmate Replay receiver, and I believe on every other Sirius device).

 

[TGS]

Originally posted by: America's Parents

Why won't anyone think of the children?! Can someone watch my kid while I go to happy hour...? Oh and little Johnny, I know you are only 6 but here's my credit card use your judgement to not buy anything bad with it.

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: EatSpam
The RRR folks around here should be thrilled. After all, if its not acceptable to the RRR folks, then no one should be allowed to see it or hear it!

Who was it who was up in arms over the GTA Hot Coffee incident? None other than Joe Lieberman and Hillary Clinton.

Lieberman is a DINO... he's more right-wing on some issues than Bush, especially those related to Israel and the Middle East. Its no surprise to me that he would take an RRR angle on censorship. Connecticut needs to give him the boot... a Repub might be more left wing than him.

And Hillary Clinton, well, she's doing her best pandering job. She doesn't want to run for President, ya hear? 🙂 IIRC, she didn't get the best response to that round of pandering. I doubt you'll hear from her on this kind of issue again.

Lieberman is a DINO?! He was the vice presidential candidate on the 2000 ticket. Pah-lese!

 

[Bitek]

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: EatSpam
The RRR folks around here should be thrilled. After all, if its not acceptable to the RRR folks, then no one should be allowed to see it or hear it!

Who was it who was up in arms over the GTA Hot Coffee incident? None other than Joe Lieberman and Hillary Clinton.

Lieberman is a DINO... he's more right-wing on some issues than Bush, especially those related to Israel and the Middle East. Its no surprise to me that he would take an RRR angle on censorship. Connecticut needs to give him the boot... a Repub might be more left wing than him.

And Hillary Clinton, well, she's doing her best pandering job. She doesn't want to run for President, ya hear? 🙂 IIRC, she didn't get the best response to that round of pandering. I doubt you'll hear from her on this kind of issue again.

Lieberman is a DINO?! He was the vice presidential candidate on the 2000 ticket. Pah-lese!

And he did a great job in the 2004 primaries... Loved by the left all around...

 

[Bitek]

Originally posted by: broon

Originally posted by: Hafen

Originally posted by: broon
IF this is real, I don't see it as being any different than E! or MTV or any other cable/satellite broadcast channel being censored. The only channels not censored are movie channels. Eventually satellite radio will be censored and you'll have to pay more to get premium uncensored channels. Stern will then move to one of those.

Says who and why?

To which part? Why would it be different?

My last two statements are just a guess as to what will happen. I was pretty young when cable came out so I don't remember it all but I think it was pretty unregulated in the beginning.

Eh, I'm not even sure the comparison to cable is even fair. Up until just a few years ago, cable service was basically a monopoly, so you only really had one provider to chose from. The ability to lock channels was not readily available, so there was not a good opportunity for the market to dictate content (ie, move to another provider if you don't like the content.) Cable is also heavily reliant on commercials for revenue, so they have to worry about offending advertizers with explicit content, which was another self-reg mechanism. Even that said, I'm not convinced it is still the gov't's business reg private content, but at least a better case could be made.

Sat radio currently does not operate that way. They have very few ads, you are only there if you want to be, (if not goto XM or any new provider) and you can lockout any channels you don't want. The market will decide what is successful ( therefore publically acceptable) radio. Plus, each sub is keyed to one radio, its not like kids could just plug in another radio elsewhere and listen without parental knowledge. If you are going to give your kid the keys to the car so he can go out and listen to foul language, well, you prob have bigger parental issues than anything Stern is doing. There is absolutely no jurisdiction or justification for the gov't being involved in regulating this content.

I see you are just making a prediction. I don't necc but it past certain groups, but I really hope people become incensed about what they are trying to do and take thier rights seriously.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: JS80
Too bad Sirius will go broke in 2 years.

Not if they keep on getting new subscribers like they are now.

 

[KidViciou$]

once i accept a job offer, i will be signing up a new sirius radio, just for howard even though i download the shows onto my ipod

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: JS80
Too bad Sirius will go broke in 2 years.

Not if they keep on getting new subscribers like they are now.

Just to pay for stern they need more than a million new subscribers and they weren't making money before! Last I saw they were just short of a million subscribers, with howard on the books they need 8 million, just to break even under the current situation. If the RIAA raises royalties this next year they are going to need X million more. I just don't see them getting the necessary subscribers to pull it off, but that's just me.

 

[KidViciou$]

they are 3.3 million from the last i heard, but the thing is, howard is NOT making $100 million / year.

 

[TheSlamma]

I think this source is bunk.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Train
Purely publicity.

Sirius will "fake" censor Stern, so that he can fake "stick it to the man" because that's what made him cool in the first place, and he will die without his gimmicks.

:thumbsup:

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: EatSpam
The RRR folks around here should be thrilled. After all, if its not acceptable to the RRR folks, then no one should be allowed to see it or hear it!

...It's Sirius doing the censoring, not the govt.

 

[UNCjigga]

Stern: "LONG LIVE PODCASTING!!!"

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: EatSpam
The RRR folks around here should be thrilled. After all, if its not acceptable to the RRR folks, then no one should be allowed to see it or hear it!

...It's Sirius doing the censoring, not the govt.

They're not censoring anything. Besides Stern, Bubba the Love Sponge and some of the Comedy Channels can demonstrate that.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Train
Purely publicity.

Sirius will "fake" censor Stern, so that he can fake "stick it to the man" because that's what made him cool in the first place, and he will die without his gimmicks.

Exactly - Stern and Sirus has to recoup that 350 million Sirus paid Stern somehow - generate a buzz - any buzz and now I'm even helping this low brow crap by replying😛