Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Google is your freind
Dean sealed records for 10 years instead of the customary 6.
Let's see what Google turned up:
Burlington Free Press
Shortly before he left office in January, Dean said he wanted a longer period because he already was running for the presidency.
"Well, there are future political considerations," he said at a news conference. "We didn't want anything embarrassing appearing in the papers at a critical time in any future endeavor."
There's some of that straight talking you were asking about earlier.
But where oh where would you get such a juicy tidbit from I wonder? You weren't perusing the Burlington Free Press last week were you?
Ah, the bastion of reputable journalism that is the Drudge Report
So is this the source which you were trying to not admit?
Also, for the love of Allah, lay off the smileys.
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUYAsk J. F. Kerry That's all I'll say at this juncture.
If you believe Dean is clean, then you are more niave than you claim Bush supporters to be.
CkG
Cool, you're rhyming now?
But seriously - are you under some sort of vow of secrecy? Puh-leezeIf you know something, why not share?
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
No, I wasn't "hiding" sources or not admitting them, I just feel that if you are going to support a man based on his "record" in Vermont then you should have come across this little tidbit concerning how much and long these files are unavailable to the public. Why 10 years? why not the 6 which is normal?
<- Just for Monsta (<-that one too )[doh - did it again]
CkG
If he doesn't open his record, it obviously means there's something he wants to hide from us," said Barnett.
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
No, I wasn't "hiding" sources or not admitting them, I just feel that if you are going to support a man based on his "record" in Vermont then you should have come across this little tidbit concerning how much and long these files are unavailable to the public. Why 10 years? why not the 6 which is normal?
<- Just for Monsta (<-that one too )[doh - did it again]
CkG
Ah I see what you're trying to do here...
If he doesn't open his record, it obviously means there's something he wants to hide from us," said Barnett.
Cad, this logic has also been applied to the current administration. If I recall correctly, a lot of the flag-avatar crowd around here shot it down pretty thoroughly. Personally it makes me wonder too, considering how much I despise government secrecy. Doesn't mean there's anything there either. I'm sure you'd apply the same standard to Bush, no?
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUYWhat's good for the goose isn't good for the gander? I don't proclaim Bush is a squeaky clean President, and as I've stated before - I disagree with things he has done but for people to think that Dean is clean is naive. If people question the Bush Admin about hiding things(energy notes) then to be consistant they should question Dean hiding his stuff for 10 years instead of the 6, no? why the extra 4 years?
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
What's good for the goose isn't good for the gander? I don't proclaim Bush is a squeaky clean President, and as I've stated before - I disagree with things he has done but for people to think that Dean is clean is naive. If people question the Bush Admin about hiding things(energy notes) then to be consistant they should question Dean hiding his stuff for 10 years instead of the 6, no? why the extra 4 years?
Dean spent his last year in office initiating a presidential run. He even requested that the state keep his gubernatorial records sealed for 10 years?four years longer than standard and just enough time to cover an eight-year Oval Office stint. Even Vermont Republicans suspect nothing too scandalous lurks in the papers, but they say the move reflects his giant ambitions.
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
What's good for the goose isn't good for the gander? I don't proclaim Bush is a squeaky clean President, and as I've stated before - I disagree with things he has done but for people to think that Dean is clean is naive. If people question the Bush Admin about hiding things(energy notes) then to be consistant they should question Dean hiding his stuff for 10 years instead of the 6, no? why the extra 4 years?
Yeesh. Show us the quote of where we said that we thought Dean was clean? Putting words in our mouth a bit? No, he's probably not clean, but neither you nor I have evidence to prove or disprove that accusation.
And here's what this week's Time article has to say about this non-scandal:
Dean spent his last year in office initiating a presidential run. He even requested that the state keep his gubernatorial records sealed for 10 years?four years longer than standard and just enough time to cover an eight-year Oval Office stint. Even Vermont Republicans suspect nothing too scandalous lurks in the papers, but they say the move reflects his giant ambitions.
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Dean is as big of a joke as the rest of them. He is pegged as a strait shooter and a "no-nonsense" talker. Yeah right. Just take a peak at his comments in regards to gay marriage on the LK interview. He does everything but ANSWER Larrys question...4 TIMES!!!
You Dean supporters are going to be in for a big surprise once one of the 8 other dwarfs decide to attack him. There is dirt on him...it's just a matter of time before one of his opponents start using it. (and no Bush doesn't need to step in to attack - the others will destroy him before Bush gets the chance)
....Hmmmmm....
Sealed his Gubernatorial records for 10 years? Hmmm .... wonder why he did that?
Dean is toast once Americams find out that he is just another dirty politician let alone figure out that he's going to take their tax-cuts away.(better not spend those $400 checks if you want Dean to win )
CkG
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Hear's a clue, Sherlock - IF THE SHOE FITS, WEAR IT. Did I say YOU thought something? Quit putting words in my mouth
note: annoying ass smileys deleted
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Hear's a clue, Sherlock - IF THE SHOE FITS, WEAR IT. Did I say YOU thought something? Quit putting words in my mouth
note: annoying ass smileys deleted
What a copout! I don't know of any Dean supporters (and believe me I know quite a few) who think that he's a clean golden boy. I assumed that you meant "the people" who think he's clean are the Dean supporters, myself being one of them.
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Hear's a clue, Sherlock - IF THE SHOE FITS, WEAR IT. Did I say YOU thought something? Quit putting words in my mouth
note: annoying ass smileys deleted
What a copout! I don't know of any Dean supporters (and believe me I know quite a few) who think that he's a clean golden boy. I assumed that you meant "the people" who think he's clean are the Dean supporters, myself being one of them.
Originally posted by: SuperTool
$450 B deficit /300M americans = $1500 for every man, woman, and child in America. So Bush is borrowing $1500 on my behalf, but only giving me $400? He can shove it.
I am setting it aside for anti-Bush political contributions in the 2004 election year.
Originally posted by: SuperTool
I wonder what the Dirt on Dean is?
Did he secretly run a 450+ Billion Dollar Deficit?
Did he lie to the American people to start a war that he doesn't know how to finish?
Were 2.5 Million jobs lost under his tenure that he's trying to sweep under the rug?
Did he piss off almost every single ally the US has, and doesn't want anyone to find out?
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: SuperTool
$450 B deficit /300M americans = $1500 for every man, woman, and child in America. So Bush is borrowing $1500 on my behalf, but only giving me $400? He can shove it.
I am setting it aside for anti-Bush political contributions in the 2004 election year.
Off-topic but I'll respond.
Yep, the gov't is spending atleast $1500 more per person than it should. To fix that we need to curb spending(ie cut, hack, slash). I went over how much Bush's tax-cuts are in relation to the current deficit in a different thread.
CkG
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: SuperTool
I wonder what the Dirt on Dean is?
Did he secretly run a 450+ Billion Dollar Deficit?
Did he lie to the American people to start a war that he doesn't know how to finish?
Were 2.5 Million jobs lost under his tenure that he's trying to sweep under the rug?
Did he piss off almost every single ally the US has, and doesn't want anyone to find out?
Do leftys have anything else but the same tired rhetoric to spew?
CkG
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: SuperTool
I wonder what the Dirt on Dean is?
Did he secretly run a 450+ Billion Dollar Deficit?
Did he lie to the American people to start a war that he doesn't know how to finish?
Were 2.5 Million jobs lost under his tenure that he's trying to sweep under the rug?
Did he piss off almost every single ally the US has, and doesn't want anyone to find out?
Do leftys have anything else but the same tired rhetoric to spew?
CkG
You are spewing rumors of dirt on Dean. Hot air.
I am just pointing out that whatever skeletons Dean has in his closet, I doubt they will be worse than the skeletons Bush has out of the closet for everyone to see. Bush record speaks for itself. No need for rhetoric.
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: SuperTool
I wonder what the Dirt on Dean is?
Did he secretly run a 450+ Billion Dollar Deficit?
Did he lie to the American people to start a war that he doesn't know how to finish?
Were 2.5 Million jobs lost under his tenure that he's trying to sweep under the rug?
Did he piss off almost every single ally the US has, and doesn't want anyone to find out?
Do leftys have anything else but the same tired rhetoric to spew?
CkG
You are spewing rumors of dirt on Dean. Hot air.
I am just pointing out that whatever skeletons Dean has in his closet, I doubt they will be worse than the skeletons Bush has out of the closet for everyone to see. Bush record speaks for itself. No need for rhetoric.
Ah, good for you, you realize he is just another politician then. That was my point I don't give a rats ass about his skeletons, because he can't beat Bush with ideas so I have no need to rely on dirt.
CkG
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Which of Bush's "ideas" makes him unbeatable?
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Which of Bush's "ideas" makes him unbeatable?
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Which of Bush's "ideas" makes him unbeatable?
...the very fact he has ideas; anyone can stand before the American people and spout off with class warfare arguments from the '60s...Dean is running on the same platform everyone before him ran on...instead of attacking their opponent, the liberal left should conceive some new ideas of their own and run a platform like Clinton did: "It's time for a change." Keep attacking Bush and continue to offer no new ideas; I'll invite you to my victory BBQ when we sweep the entire government again. The fact that Republicans control everything should indicate that your class warfare nonsense is not salient with today's voters.