How would you respond to someone that feels like this about alcohol?

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: Oceandevi
Ignore them. They were home schooled.

Watch it.

Yeah, come on now. Everyone knows people who are home-schooled are the biggest alcoholics.

I'd consider putting a smiley on that one, Atomic, so people know you're joking.

You, ummmm, are joking, aren't you?

 

[KeithTalent]

He's obviously drunk, tell him to get help.

KT

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: spidey07
Factually it's a true statement.

No, factually, it's a biased and ignorantly incomplete statement entirely designed to mislead!

The National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (NIAAA) has completed an extensive review of current scientific knowledge about the health effects of moderate alcohol consumption. It found that the lowest death rate from all causes occurs at the level of one to two drinks per day. That is, moderate drinkers have the greatest longevity.

The NIAAA?s conclusion that moderate drinking is beneficial to heart health will be included in the next revision of the dietary guidelines to be issued by the government.

Drinking alcohol may slightly increase the risk of breast cancer. However, Dr. Lorraine Gunzerath of NIAAA emphasizes that women should weigh the small increase in breast cancer risk (one percentage point) against the sharp decrease in heart disease risk (40%) resulting from moderate drinking. Also important is the fact that about 4% of American women die of breast cancer while about 50% die of heart disease.

The scientific medical research did not find that moderate drinking leads to weight gain or to obesity, although alcohol contains calories.

Moderate drinkers tend to have better health and live longer than those who are either abstainers or heavy drinkers. In addition to having fewer heart attacks and strokes, moderate consumers of alcoholic beverages (beer, wine or distilled spirits or liquor) are generally less likely to suffer hypertension or high blood pressure, peripheral artery disease, Alzheimer's disease and the common cold. Sensible drinking also appears to be beneficial in reducing or preventing diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, bone fractures and osteoporosis, kidney stones, digestive ailments, stress and depression, poor cognition and memory, Parkinson's disease, hepatitis A, pancreatic cancer, macular degeneration (a major cause of blindness), angina pectoris, duodenal ulcer, erectile dysfunction, hearing loss, gallstones, liver disease and poor physical condition in elderly.

Do you not read what you post? It says it increases risk breast cancer. And it's well known that ethanol is indeed a poison.

Or course it's well known that there are benefits, but factually the stuff in the OP is correct.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Ask them about wine?

it sounds like they already know plenty about whine. :wine:

OP, tell them... everything in moderation. too much water is bad for you too. It's called drowning.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: Oceandevi
Ignore them. They were home schooled.

Watch it.

Yeah, come on now. Everyone knows people who are home-schooled are the biggest alcoholics.

Even worse, they may be more likely to grow up to become tech board moderators. :Q

 

[FDF12389]

I think it is terrible that there are any beer companies at all Nobody should drink alcohol. It is a toxin, it poisons cells, significantly raises the risk of breast cancer in women, and does lots more bad things. Even if alcohol were healthy, just the fact that it is a mind-altering drug makes it wrong.

Originally posted by: spidey07
Do you not read what you post? It says it increases risk breast cancer. And it's well known that ethanol is indeed a poison.

Or course it's well known that there are benefits, but factually the stuff in the OP is correct.

The bold parts are definitely factually incorrect, italic part is probably too.

 

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: Steve

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: Oceandevi
Ignore them. They were home schooled.

Watch it.

Watch what?

We home school our chilldren. :|

I was home-schooled but I'm a hard drinker. Where do I fall in this?

 

[NatePo717]

"I've been blind all these years! Oh woe is me! I'm off to drink my problems away." :beer:

 

[djheater]

Originally posted by: spidey07
/snip
Do you not read what you post? It says it increases risk breast cancer. And it's well known that ethanol is indeed a poison.

Or course it's well known that there are benefits, but factually the stuff in the OP is correct.

Perknose said: No, factually, it's a biased and ignorantly incomplete statement entirely designed to mislead!


You're not responding to his statement, you're responding to his quoted material.
Your argument is fail.



This thread needs more beer.

:beer::beer::beer:
:beer::beer::beer:

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Yeah, come on now. Everyone knows people who are home-schooled are the biggest alcoholics.

I'd consider putting a smiley on that one, Atomic, so people know you're joking.

You, ummmm, are joking, aren't you?

Well, I only know one person who was home-schooled, and he's also the only person I know who I can definitively say is an alcoholic (though I have some suspicions about my uncle). Based on that sample, 100% of home-schoolers are alcoholics. I'm sure the number in the real world is slightly lower (it's probably closer to 95% or so).

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Or course it's well known that there are benefits, but factually the stuff in the OP is correct.

Those benefits do not appear to be well known to that writer AT ALL. That's why, when they swear you in for court testimony, they make you agree to tell the WHOLE truth as well as nothing but the truth. His statement, btw, fails on BOTH of those counts.

As for your bolded, that's like saying:

Adolf Hitler was a strong, dynamic and democratically elected leader of Germany whose far reaching policies brought the German economy back from the brink of economic collapse and on to new heights of dynamism and prosperity in the 1930's.

He was loved, even revered, by many, both in and out of Germany.

See? :roll:

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Ask them about wine?

it sounds like they already know plenty about whine. :wine:

OP, tell them... everything in moderation. too much water is bad for you too. It's called drowning.

Yes, counter their argument by warning them about the dangers of DHMO!

 

[vi edit]

<The Dude> That's like...your opinion man. </The Dude>

In all honestly, there's no point even trying to counter. He(she?) has dug themselves into a very extremist position and there really is nothing you can do or say to change that. They have to figure that one out for themselves.

 

[jjones]

Tell him to stop reading.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: monk3y

I think it is terrible that there are any beer companies at all Nobody should drink alcohol. It is a toxin, it poisons cells, significantly raises the risk of breast cancer in women, and does lots more bad things. Even if alcohol were healthy, just the fact that it is a mind-altering drug makes it wrong.

replace alcohol / beer with religion and it all still makes sense. wakka wakka wakka....

Er, religion significantly raises the risk of breast cancer in women?

I also was not aware that you could drink religion, nor that religion was a mind-altering drug.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: monk3y

I think it is terrible that there are any beer companies at all Nobody should drink alcohol. It is a toxin, it poisons cells, significantly raises the risk of breast cancer in women, and does lots more bad things. Even if alcohol were healthy, just the fact that it is a mind-altering drug makes it wrong.

replace alcohol / beer with religion and it all still makes sense. wakka wakka wakka....

Er, religion significantly raises the risk of breast cancer in women?

I also was not aware that you could drink religion, nor that religion was a mind-altering drug.

clearly it is.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: monk3y

I think it is terrible that there are any beer companies at all Nobody should drink alcohol. It is a toxin, it poisons cells, significantly raises the risk of breast cancer in women, and does lots more bad things. Even if alcohol were healthy, just the fact that it is a mind-altering drug makes it wrong.

replace alcohol / beer with religion and it all still makes sense. wakka wakka wakka....

Er, religion significantly raises the risk of breast cancer in women?

I also was not aware that you could drink religion, nor that religion was a mind-altering drug.

Drink this, for it is my blood, and you'll trip wicked balls, man.

 

[OdiN]

Godwin's Law....nice.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: Oceandevi
Ignore them. They were home schooled.

:thumbsup:

 

[Gooberlx2]

Outwardly, I'd probably just shrug.

To myself I'd be making a mental note to never hang out with that prude.

 

[GasX]

I believe you need to give us the url for your site so we can investigate further.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: OdiN
I also was not aware that you could drink religion, nor that religion was a mind-altering drug.

Die Religion ist das Opium des Volkes

-Karl Marx

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Factually it's a true statement.

Actually, part of the statement is pure opinion:

Even if alcohol were healthy, just the fact that it is a mind-altering drug makes it wrong.

Mind-altering drugs are not inherently wrong. It is that person's opinion that they are.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: monk3y

I think it is terrible that there are any beer companies at all Nobody should drink alcohol. It is a toxin, it poisons cells, significantly raises the risk of breast cancer in women, and does lots more bad things. Even if alcohol were healthy, just the fact that it is a mind-altering drug makes it wrong.

replace alcohol / beer with religion and it all still makes sense. wakka wakka wakka....

Er, religion significantly raises the risk of breast cancer in women?

I also was not aware that you could drink religion, nor that religion was a mind-altering drug.

clearly it is.

What do you do? Roll up some pages of the Bible and smoke em? I'm not sure how it "clearly is" a mind-altering drug.

 

[monk3y]

Originally posted by: Mwilding
I believe you need to give us the url for your site so we can investigate further.

*Link to site

Her statement is in the comments... I decided to respond, she has not said anything in response yet.