How would you react if someone pulled a gun on you...

[KrillBee]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: KrillBee
Some people on this forum have told me that if someone were picking on me, and they were bigger than me, that I should still fight back, because the morally right thing to do would be to stand up for myself, regardless of consequences.

And yet, here in this situation, many advize the opposite. Give in no matter what if they had a gun.

Would anyone here stand up for themselves and tell the man with the gun to **** off? Granted you might die? But make them get what they want the hard way?

I dont know if I could do it. But I have to be honest, there is something admirable about a person who doesnt give in to complying with evil deeds.

Nothing admirable about somebody stupid enough to meaninglessly sacrifice their life.

meaninglessly? You did your best to stand for justice. You stood your ground until he shot you. You pissed off a criminal and you made things more difficult for him to commit his crime. Now he has to live with the fact that he killed you.

And hopefully someone will hear the gunshot and arrest the a-hole.


Now if it were something where he needed the password to get something, and only I knew it, I'd be tempted to not give it to him, even if he did shoot me. Cuz that way I could assure that he didnt get what he wanted.

Now the trick is deciding where to draw the line when you are dealing with a-holes like these. Justice must be preserved at times, even if it means risking human life. Justice and the law is that important.

The U.S. wont give $1,000,000,000 to some guy, just because he's holding some random civilian hostage, they'd tell the man to **** off. The U.S. doesnt negotiate with terrorists.
You give them an inch, they take a mile.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: dxkj
RTFOP

It is assumed you already did give them what they want, and they have now decided to kill you for whatever reason....

That's exactly my point.

A nervous and "crazy" looking criminal would be the most dangerous.

By the time you pull out your weapon, you'll be dead.

The only time to pull out your weapon would be if you thought the criminal was bluffing.

So UYBBYRTMP. (Use your brain before you respond to my posts).

I guess you're just lucky, because you can give them your "Magnum" look and the bullet will just drop out of the air :roll:

The rest of us have to take risks if we think we're going to get shot.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: dxkj
man you are dumb...

The question isn't whether or not you would have time... it is "what would you do". So try RTFOP again, and try thinking things through before responding to ANY posts...

Are you braindead?

I'm saying what "I would do" and I would not pull out a gun because they would shoot you before you could pull out.

Whether or not I would have the time is the explanation to "what I would do."

And it's also why others are not thinking it through.

Some of you watch too many movies.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: jagec
The rest of us have to take risks if we think we're going to get shot.

You have a bigger risk of getting shot if you try to act like a super hero.

Just give them your $$$ and play along and most of the time you'll be fine.

But people who try to play super hero is when shots get fired and someone almost always winds up shot, and a large portion of the time, it's not the criminal.

Again, people like you watch too many movies.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
ou have a bigger risk of getting shot if you try to act like a super hero.

Just give them your $$$ and play along and most of the time you'll be fine.

But people who try to play super hero is when shots get fired and someone almost always winds up shot, and a large portion of the time, it's not the criminal.

Again, people like you watch too many movies.

Did you read the OP? The question isn't what you do in a regular situation..obviously you play along. The question is if they are 100% going to shoot you, what do you do?

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: jagec
Did you read the OP? The question isn't what you do in a regular situation..obviously you play along. The question is if they are 100% going to shoot you, what do you do?

I guess you need to take some English lessons pal.

and it's possibility you may get shot?

I didn't know "possibility" meant "100%."

 

[l Xes l]

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: Arkitech

Originally posted by: TBone48
I would wet my pants and run away screaming for help. Or faint.

lmao

your honesty is refreshing and hilarious

I am no hero.

LMAO! u just became one!

 

[xcript]

I'd flip out and stab mad peeps.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

if they were far enough away not to shoot that acurately id be running faster than Asafa Powell did when he ran 9.77 for teh 100m

if they were like mugging me or something, id give them what ever they wanted....clothes included!

if they were still pointing the gun at me, well i dont know, i guess what i would do given no choice (ie die now, or die fighting) would be to try push the gun the side or straight up (probably in situ with a ducking motion) hoping they dont fire until its past me.

id just try wrestle with them just making sure that the gun is not pointing at me.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: TheNinja

Originally posted by: joshsquall
Did anyone read the OP? He wants to know what you'd do if just meeting their demands wouldn't stop them from shooting you.

Honestly, probably duck and try to run in a wild and zig zag pattern. Chances are the mugger does not have very good aim. Regardless of what you see on TV, if you shoot a pistol and aren't trained it is very hard to hit a stationary target the size of a human 15 feet away. I'd just pray that the guy is a crazy crack addict with the shakes.

dont forget to bunny hop whilst zig zagging, its almost impossible to get shot that way !LOL

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
I think a lot of you "e-thugs" aren't being realistic as to how you would react in such a situation.

You say, "OH I'D PULLZ OUT MY GUNZ AND GO BLADDOW TO THAT MUTHATRUCKA...!!!"

Riiight. Most of you know that the wise decision would to be to just give up what they want (assuming it's just something small, like a material knick knack.) Because there are some crazy people out there who would pull their trigger long before you're able to reach in and pull out your weapon.

That's why mine is always out...

 

[Sukhoi]

I have a question on the legality of the wallet tossing idea. Say a mugger gets you from behind, and has a gun/knife to your back. If you pull your wallet out and toss it a couple feet to the front, can you still engage the mugger as he goes for the wallet? Or is the self-defense situation considered over once the weapon is removed from your back?

 

[Stiganator]

1. Grab and break fingers
2. Hyper extend elbow
3. hyper extend knee
4. blow to the throat
5. assuming they are not disarmed already, disarm
6. restrain, limit oxygen supply so they pass out
7. rob them/profit?

 

[JDMnAR1]

Originally posted by: KrillBee
Ok, from what I understand, those who have concealed weapon permits still cannot have a weapon on them while in a vehicle, right? They have to keep it in the trunk?

This may very from state to state depending upon how their CCW laws are written, but I have yet to encounter a state where this is the case. A CCW permit allows a permit holder to carry a concealed weapon on their person - without regards to being in a privately owned vehicle. Mass transit may have different rules, but not your typical automobile.

Originally posted by: Sukhoi
I have a question on the legality of the wallet tossing idea. Say a mugger gets you from behind, and has a gun/knife to your back. If you pull your wallet out and toss it a couple feet to the front, can you still engage the mugger as he goes for the wallet? Or is the self-defense situation considered over once the weapon is removed from your back?

Again, this is going to be determined by the laws of the state you are in. Justifiable use of deadly force does not have a universally accepted (or federally mandated) definition. In some states, the use of deadly force may only be justified to safeguard the well-being of yourself or another person, while other states are more liberal as to what constitutes justification (opening it up to include protection of property).

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: KrillBee
Ok, from what I understand, those who have concealed weapon permits still cannot have a weapon on them while in a vehicle, right? They have to keep it in the trunk?

Do you have to keep yours in trunk or can you have it on you?

What else are you allowed to do with a police ID while off duty?

You'd have to check your state law on that.

I have mine on me.

What I'm saying is that a police ID goes beyond a concealed weapons permit because we can carry in liquor establishments, public gatherings, etc. where CCW holders can't.

 

[GrammatonJP]

Never been at gun point before but I do wear my body armor almost all the time out of home and out of work.. Wife has a set also..

The only problem is a pro will shoot you center mass.. where a kid will randomly fire and can hit your legs and such.. not willing to run..

 

[Tom]

whip out my ACLU card.

 

[Fraggable]

cry.

I don't know, no one really knows what they'll do unless they've had training, even then it's hard to know.

If a guy was likely to shoot me, I'd like to think I'd come up with a move that would get the gun pointed away form me and then disarm him. I'm not a big guy by any means, so my only chance would be to disarm him immediately and subdue him. With my temper, it's likely I'd end up shooting him in the foot or knee once I got the gun to keep him from getting away.

Then I'm sure I'd spend my life in jail.

 

[g8wayrebel]

I can't honestly say , but I wouldn't ever concede without trying to figure out how to take them out first.
I'm not giving a dime to one of these pricks if I can help it.
If I was alone , I may just call their bluff. At the very least , my kids would go to college.
In any case , if the opportunity presents itself in any way , I would kill them.
If not , I would most definitely make sure I could recognize them later and kill them at first opportunity if I ever found them again.
These people are of no value or concern to me whatsoever.
I admit , I have seen cases of people changing , but I am not the merciful type , I believe in people taking responsibility for their actions.
If you live that way , you die that way.
I protect my livelihood with my life.

 

[classy]

I ran, simple as that. He didn't shoot at me though.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: So
Fantasy world? Roundhouse kick them, take the gun and hold them for the police.

Reality? Assuming there is no easy escape, probably: drop jaw, give them what they wanted, hope I didn't brown my pants.

yup. sounds about accurate.

what? i've got a life to live. besides, i don't carry cash... only use plastic. all i'd have to do is cancel it.

 

[bonkers325]

fetal position.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: KrillBee
Ok, from what I understand, those who have concealed weapon permits still cannot have a weapon on them while in a vehicle, right? They have to keep it in the trunk?

Do you have to keep yours in trunk or can you have it on you?

What else are you allowed to do with a police ID while off duty?

You'd have to check your state law on that.

I have mine on me.

What I'm saying is that a police ID goes beyond a concealed weapons permit because we can carry in liquor establishments, public gatherings, etc. where CCW holders can't.

Most depts. REQUIRE their off duty officers to carry a weapon, some require the service weapon, some allow a smaller, more easily concealed weapon, AS WELL AS their dept ID, so they can be pressed into service in the case of an "incident", emergency, etc.
My step -dad hated going out in public off duty for just that reason. He's ex CHP and he would've rather have been able to be really off duty, when off the clock instead of being on "stand-by". My brother on the other hand, rather enjoys it. Probably a bit too much, imo.

Thinking about it now I'd probably toss my wallet so that he had to move to pick it up. Depending on other factors, namely location, I'd either run or try to engage him physically while he goes for the wallet.

This is exactly how we train for such a situation. Tossing the wallet before they get within point blank range, or arms reach, is probably going to buy one enough distraction to allow you to bolt or get that first kick in. Keeping a "tosser" is something I've done for years, especially when travelling. Usually the only thing in there is a note saying "SUCKER", maybe a buck or two if I need to bring it out in public.

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Most depts. REQUIRE their off duty officers to carry a weapon, some require the service weapon, some allow a smaller, more easily concealed weapon, AS WELL AS their dept ID, so they can be pressed into service in the case of an "incident", emergency, etc.
My step -dad hated going out in public off duty for just that reason. He's ex CHP and he would've rather have been able to be really off duty, when off the clock instead of being on "stand-by". My brother on the other hand, rather enjoys it. Probably a bit too much, imo.

This is exactly how we train for such a situation. Tossing the wallet before they get within point blank range, or arms reach, is probably going to buy one enough distraction to allow you to bolt or get that first kick in. Keeping a "tosser" is something I've done for years, especially when travelling. Usually the only thing in there is a note saying "SUCKER", maybe a buck or two if I need to bring it out in public.

I don't know if I'd say *most* departments require it. At this point it's like putting on my watch or carrying my wallet...it's just another thing to carry when I leave the house.

:laugh:

 

[mrrman]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Depends on the distance.
Close = attack first
Far away = run like OJ