Steal a gun and car. Cover every part of my body, paint my face, wear clothes that could make me look bigger then I am. Call someone else on the phone saying if they want to meet up at somewere far away from the killing point.
After the kill burn the clothes I wore and get rid of the gun and car. I would throw the gun into a river or throw it in a garbage truck. Burn the car.
Not perfect but it could get the job done with more planning.
After the kill burn the clothes I wore and get rid of the gun and car. I would throw the gun into a river or throw it in a garbage truck. Burn the car.
Not perfect but it could get the job done with more planning.
Not necessarily, if there is other physical/circumstancial evidence and motive it's very possible to be convicted.
I figure the DC snipers could have got away if they had stopped & kept their mouth shut.
Victim is somebody you have no connection to, so no motive to trace. Long distance shot. If you pick your location to be very isolated even better. Then destroy the weapon and keep your mouth shut. Bonus points if you can use a weapon that's never been associated with you. Under these circumstances, I don't think it would be very hard to get away with murder.
Victim is somebody you have no connection to, so no motive to trace. Long distance shot. If you pick your location to be very isolated even better. Then destroy the weapon and keep your mouth shut. Bonus points if you can use a weapon that's never been associated with you. Under these circumstances, I don't think it would be very hard to get away with murder.
SacrosanctFiend
Diamond Member
- Oct 2, 2004
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Delivery method? They can detect and quantitate catecholamines, so there better not be any room for suspicion.
Stab them with an icicle (which won't be needed for what you're about to do, that's just for if you want to stab someone with no evidence of a weapon 
), cut their body up into pieces, including fingers and toes, in the woods. Spread the parts a mile away so the animals here in the Pine Barrens will eat it. Make sure to crush all recognizable human body parts (like the skull) until it's just bits and pieces of bone with meat so when it's just bone, nobody would think twice (you see a lot of bones on the ground in the woods here). Crush it using a sledgehammer that you can throw in a lake (which will also get rid of the blood on it after a while, and the lakes here have a lot of rubble in them so they won't think twice about it).
Next, the clothes, obviously they'll be very "dirty", easily destroy it with chemicals or simply burn it, readying a second set of clothes to change into AFTER burning or chemically destroying (juuust in case something can get on the clothes).
Now since we have a lot of woods here, that makes it all the more easier because you can easily go 10-20 miles in the Pine Barrens here without worrying about people living nearby.
), cut their body up into pieces, including fingers and toes, in the woods. Spread the parts a mile away so the animals here in the Pine Barrens will eat it. Make sure to crush all recognizable human body parts (like the skull) until it's just bits and pieces of bone with meat so when it's just bone, nobody would think twice (you see a lot of bones on the ground in the woods here). Crush it using a sledgehammer that you can throw in a lake (which will also get rid of the blood on it after a while, and the lakes here have a lot of rubble in them so they won't think twice about it).Next, the clothes, obviously they'll be very "dirty", easily destroy it with chemicals or simply burn it, readying a second set of clothes to change into AFTER burning or chemically destroying (juuust in case something can get on the clothes).
Now since we have a lot of woods here, that makes it all the more easier because you can easily go 10-20 miles in the Pine Barrens here without worrying about people living nearby.
And have some idiot deadender roll over on you when he botches it and gets caught? Nope - gotta go it alone in every respect.
Take them back to my place, pour gasoline on clothes and throw into my fire place, then take ashes put into a bag and bury.
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well you are wrong, most murders are never solved, i think something like 70%. go look up the statistics, hopefully those shows scare people into thinking they won't get away with it, but most people do get away with murder.
HardcoreRobot
Lifer
- Nov 7, 2000
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1. Kill person at night.
2. Get on plane/boat that night to go to the Congo.
3. Party with jungle creatures the rest of your life.
*Place and party animal may be substituted.
2. Get on plane/boat that night to go to the Congo.
3. Party with jungle creatures the rest of your life.
*Place and party animal may be substituted.
I've thought about this for quite a while. I think it's good to keep your options open, and have a plan worked out ahead of time that you can fall back on if you ever need to, because after you've got a body to dispose of you probably won't be thinking clearly.
Redundancy is the word. Even if one method fails chances are the other won't. We also want the crime scene to be as clean as possible. If you make a bloody mess, you will leave evidence behind, simple as that. Once you open somebody up there's nothing you can do to get rid of everything that might be incriminating. Just as an example you could give someone some poison that won't cause them to vomit all over the place (I'm not going to make any recomendations on a family forum like this) and then when they're on the way down you could strangle them. Neither method is likely to leave a mess when you're done. If you just poison somebody they might figure it out and call for help. If you just strangle somebody they might fight back and get away, or start breathing again when you're not watching. But if you do both at the same time chances are they aren't going to get back up. It's improtant to dress well because a desperate person fighting for their life might fight back and leave mark, and we don't want that.
It's vitally important that you know where you're going to ditch the body afterwards. If you don't have a means of disposal now when you're thinking clearly, you're not going to pick a winner after the fact when you're panicking. I'm not going to offer any suggestions here, but for me all my years of wandering around in the woods might just pay off someday. There are places out there where somebody, or several somebodies, would never be found. Redundancy is also important here. There are a variety of methods one might employ. If you're burying a body you might try burying the body deep and covering with a layer of dirt and then put an animal on top and then more dirt, so that if the grave is exhumed it might be assumed to be an animal burial and left alone. A weak feint, but possibly effective. You might try cremation and then burial. If the location is far enough out of the way creamtion in-situ is probably best. Of course dental work that could lead to an identification that could tie the deceased back to you should be removed and disposed of properly. Imagination and improvisation are key.
On the way to the location that you've picked out it's important that no one be able to identify you. You could borrow someone else's vehicle, but that could still be traced back to you if there was an investigation. The easiest and cheapest way to ensure that no one can identify your vehicle on the way to disposal, is to cover every inch of it in mud. So much mud that you can't even tell what color the vehicle is. It's not illegal to drive a dirty car, and while the car is in this condition no one will be able to identify it. Afterwards you just hose it off and you're good to go.
Obviously the perfect murder is much more complicated than this, but perhaps these pointers will help someone out of a difficult spot.
Redundancy is the word. Even if one method fails chances are the other won't. We also want the crime scene to be as clean as possible. If you make a bloody mess, you will leave evidence behind, simple as that. Once you open somebody up there's nothing you can do to get rid of everything that might be incriminating. Just as an example you could give someone some poison that won't cause them to vomit all over the place (I'm not going to make any recomendations on a family forum like this) and then when they're on the way down you could strangle them. Neither method is likely to leave a mess when you're done. If you just poison somebody they might figure it out and call for help. If you just strangle somebody they might fight back and get away, or start breathing again when you're not watching. But if you do both at the same time chances are they aren't going to get back up. It's improtant to dress well because a desperate person fighting for their life might fight back and leave mark, and we don't want that.
It's vitally important that you know where you're going to ditch the body afterwards. If you don't have a means of disposal now when you're thinking clearly, you're not going to pick a winner after the fact when you're panicking. I'm not going to offer any suggestions here, but for me all my years of wandering around in the woods might just pay off someday. There are places out there where somebody, or several somebodies, would never be found. Redundancy is also important here. There are a variety of methods one might employ. If you're burying a body you might try burying the body deep and covering with a layer of dirt and then put an animal on top and then more dirt, so that if the grave is exhumed it might be assumed to be an animal burial and left alone. A weak feint, but possibly effective. You might try cremation and then burial. If the location is far enough out of the way creamtion in-situ is probably best. Of course dental work that could lead to an identification that could tie the deceased back to you should be removed and disposed of properly. Imagination and improvisation are key.
On the way to the location that you've picked out it's important that no one be able to identify you. You could borrow someone else's vehicle, but that could still be traced back to you if there was an investigation. The easiest and cheapest way to ensure that no one can identify your vehicle on the way to disposal, is to cover every inch of it in mud. So much mud that you can't even tell what color the vehicle is. It's not illegal to drive a dirty car, and while the car is in this condition no one will be able to identify it. Afterwards you just hose it off and you're good to go.
Obviously the perfect murder is much more complicated than this, but perhaps these pointers will help someone out of a difficult spot.
PingSpike
Lifer
- Feb 25, 2004
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Its actually a lot easier to get away with murder than you think, based on shows like CSI...where there's always some magic epiphany like bug turds that are x years old. IRL, I doubt that stuff would hold up in court even if some one did figure it out.
And are we talking random or some one you know (and presumably hate). Because if they are a stranger and you have no motive...its pretty unlikely they'll even find you even if it was a semi sloppy murder.
If its some one you know, its trickier. The *don't* have to have a body to convict you, they really just need some blood or evidence of foul play. And when that person turns up missing, the first thing they're going to do is start looking at people with motives. And I would have to assume if you hated some one enough to kill them...you'd probably have a few people who had at least an inkling that you had something to do with it.
I'm pretty confident that you can get an illegal gun thats not registed to you pretty easily. Thats probably the best route simply because its easy to kill some one with a gun. As far as the body? I've seen a few shows where they use acid to dissolve it, but I'm not even sure thats real or if that stuff is easy to get. Probably put it in a drum, fill the rest with rocks, seal it up tight as a bastard and push into some deep body of water nowhere near you or the crime scene. Burning the body in the drum before filling it with rocks would probably but you more rock space and destroy any evidence you missed.
The gun is gone afterwards, chuck it in a different body of water I think is the best bet.
I dunno. I think I'd only end up killing some one in self defense or if the world is overrun by zombies so I haven't thought this out fully.
And are we talking random or some one you know (and presumably hate). Because if they are a stranger and you have no motive...its pretty unlikely they'll even find you even if it was a semi sloppy murder.
If its some one you know, its trickier. The *don't* have to have a body to convict you, they really just need some blood or evidence of foul play. And when that person turns up missing, the first thing they're going to do is start looking at people with motives. And I would have to assume if you hated some one enough to kill them...you'd probably have a few people who had at least an inkling that you had something to do with it.
I'm pretty confident that you can get an illegal gun thats not registed to you pretty easily. Thats probably the best route simply because its easy to kill some one with a gun. As far as the body? I've seen a few shows where they use acid to dissolve it, but I'm not even sure thats real or if that stuff is easy to get. Probably put it in a drum, fill the rest with rocks, seal it up tight as a bastard and push into some deep body of water nowhere near you or the crime scene. Burning the body in the drum before filling it with rocks would probably but you more rock space and destroy any evidence you missed.
The gun is gone afterwards, chuck it in a different body of water I think is the best bet.
I dunno. I think I'd only end up killing some one in self defense or if the world is overrun by zombies so I haven't thought this out fully.
KoolAidKid
Golden Member
- Apr 29, 2002
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This would be best accomplished on someone that you know.
1) While at someone's house, scope their medicine cabinet, looking for containers of common OTC painkillers.
2) Go to a pharmacy, buy the exact same brand of painkiller. Alternately, steal one pill from your target's bottle.
3) Put poison on the pill.
4) The next time you have access to that person's medicine cabinet, put the poisoned pill in the target's bottle so that it ends up near the bottom.
5) Wait.
Of course, you would need to take precautions to make sure that you didn't leave fingerprints on the bottle, etc.
1) While at someone's house, scope their medicine cabinet, looking for containers of common OTC painkillers.
2) Go to a pharmacy, buy the exact same brand of painkiller. Alternately, steal one pill from your target's bottle.
3) Put poison on the pill.
4) The next time you have access to that person's medicine cabinet, put the poisoned pill in the target's bottle so that it ends up near the bottom.
5) Wait.
Of course, you would need to take precautions to make sure that you didn't leave fingerprints on the bottle, etc.
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