How would this compare to a Zalman CNPS7700-CU?

Mrvile

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Nah, the Sonic Tower is too much matter for what it's worth. Stick to either the 7700 or the XP-120.
 

suszterpatt

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Originally posted by: Vegitto
Did you guys even watch the fan? 220 CFM, baby!
At 65dB? Eff that. Btw, he said he'd cool it down.


Anyway, the Zalman or an XP-120 would be better imo.
 

Vegitto

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Originally posted by: suszterpatt
Originally posted by: Vegitto
Did you guys even watch the fan? 220 CFM, baby!
At 65dB? Eff that. Btw, he said he'd cool it down.


Anyway, the Zalman or an XP-120 would be better imo.

Uhm, I'm the OP, here. Anyway, is there a pure copper version of the XP-120? I'd like that, if those exist.
 

Operandi

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Stay away from Thermaltake, Zalman, Thermalright, and the new Scythe SCNJ-1000 Ninja are better options.

Also that fan will kill most controllers pretty quick, the Zalman wouldn't stand a chance.
 

Vegitto

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Originally posted by: Operandi
Stay away from Thermaltake, Zalman, Thermalright, and the new Scythe SCNJ-1000 Ninja are better options.

Also that fan will kill most controllers pretty quick, the Zalman wouldn't stand a chance.

Hmm.. What controller do you advise for that fan? Homemade, or a brand?
 

theMan

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you could use a software controller like speedfan. just get some good noise cancelling headphones and crank that sucker up while gaming. with an xp90 your cpu will be cold as a dead man. :p
 

suszterpatt

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Originally posted by: Vegitto
Originally posted by: suszterpatt
Originally posted by: Vegitto
Did you guys even watch the fan? 220 CFM, baby!
At 65dB? Eff that. Btw, he said he'd cool it down.


Anyway, the Zalman or an XP-120 would be better imo.

Uhm, I'm the OP, here. Anyway, is there a pure copper version of the XP-120? I'd like that, if those exist.
Bloops. :p


And no, there's no XP-120Cu (as of yet). With 5 heatpipes and a ginormous heat dissipation area though, there's no real need for one either. If you really want a pure copper HSF then get the XP-90Cu.
 

JasonE4

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Originally posted by: theman
you could use a software controller like speedfan. just get some good noise cancelling headphones and crank that sucker up while gaming. with an xp90 your cpu will be cold as a dead man. :p
Never connect that fan to the motherboard. You'd be best making your own fan controller.
 

Cerb

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Based on SPCR users, it's not a bad heatsink.
However, the mounting mechanism would scare me away, regardless of performance. Scythe has proven themselves to be at least as good as Zalman, in that regard.

And no matter what you do, forget that fan!
 

Shadowknight

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Originally posted by: Operandi
Stay away from Thermaltake, Zalman, Thermalright, and the new Scythe SCNJ-1000 Ninja are better options.

Just to be clear... what are you saying? To avoid ALL of those companies, including the Ninja review link you posted?

Anyway, I have the Ninja, I get 40C/60C with a Nexus case fan at 650rpm, 40C/52C with the Nexus fan at full blast. Really good for a passive heatsink. Having a higher cfm case fan or mounting a 120mm fan directly to the heatsink should provide even better performance. FYI, SPCR declared that it replaces the XP-120 as the current cooling king, so at least one website thinks it is the best heatsink right now.

This may change when the Zalman 9500 comes out, so unless you're going to try to minimize moving parts/noise, you might want to wait on a couple of reviews. It claims to have water-cooling level performance, but most manufacturers... oversell their products, so better to wait a couple weeks for reviews before deciding if you want max cooling performancec, IMHO.
 

tw33ter

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Originally posted by: Shadowknight
Originally posted by: Operandi
Stay away from Thermaltake, Zalman, Thermalright, and the new Scythe SCNJ-1000 Ninja are better options.
This may change when the Zalman 9500 comes out, so unless you're going to try to minimize moving parts/noise, you might want to wait on a couple of reviews. It claims to have water-cooling level performance, but most manufacturers... oversell their products, so better to wait a couple weeks for reviews before deciding if you want max cooling performancec, IMHO.

That's my dilema, I want to get a heatsink now so i can finish my build, but with the 9500 and ninja, i wanna wait for some reviews to see if they are actually that good.
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: Shadowknight
Originally posted by: Operandi
Stay away from Thermaltake, Zalman, Thermalright, and the new Scythe SCNJ-1000 Ninja are better options.

Just to be clear... what are you saying? To avoid ALL of those companies, including the Ninja review link you posted?

Anyway, I have the Ninja, I get 40C/60C with a Nexus case fan at 650rpm, 40C/52C with the Nexus fan at full blast. Really good for a passive heatsink. Having a higher cfm case fan or mounting a 120mm fan directly to the heatsink should provide even better performance. FYI, SPCR declared that it replaces the XP-120 as the current cooling king, so at least one website thinks it is the best heatsink right now.

This may change when the Zalman 9500 comes out, so unless you're going to try to minimize moving parts/noise, you might want to wait on a couple of reviews. It claims to have water-cooling level performance, but most manufacturers... oversell their products, so better to wait a couple weeks for reviews before deciding if you want max cooling performancec, IMHO.
No, just stay away from Thermaltake. Very few of their products are really well designed, even when they perform well (look at the sonic tower's mounting!). Zalman, Thermalright, Alpha (if they ever come back with a decent one), and AC/Scythe make nice stuff.

The Ninja is basically the best thing out there for low noise, ATM. If you want to finish now, a Scythe Ninja is the best way to go. SPCR has a thread to check out for places to buy, given limited availability right now.
 

BonzaiDuck

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We don't know how the ThermalTake Sonic Tower compares to the other heatsinks until someone provides a benchmark to measure its thermal resistance.

None of these companies provide a thermal resistance measurement in their ads and hype -- not even those which have the best (lowest) value -- like ThermalRight's XP-120.

This model of ThermalTake heatpipe cooler got a decent plug in Maximum PC magazine's September '05 issue (received via my subscription two weeks ago). The data for idle and load temperature values, together with clear indication of the processor used in the test, would enable you to calculate the thermal resistance for the cooler after looking up the processor's heat leakage in Watts on the manufacturer's web-site.

The choice of a fan -- this model of Delta fan -- may be excessive (boasting 220 CFM). There is a limit of CFM where the thermal resistance of a cooler reaches a minimum, and no additional amount of air blown through the fins will improve the cooler's performance.

I use a Delta tri-blade 120mm fan on my XP-120, which will push a maximum of 142 CFM. The fan has maximum rpm of 3,700. I have it set to run at 2,800 rpm under idle or moderate CPU usage. It spins up to 90% of the top rpm when the CPU temperature exceeds 40C. At the lower fan speeds, the Delta's "bad" reputation for being noisy is a gross exaggeration: it is pretty quiet at speeds up to 3,200 rpm.

There is a prevailing opinion about ThermalTake products which is also myth and exaggeration. Their heatpipe coolers are as good as anyone else's, but not necessarily the best in terms of closing the difference between idle and load temperatures. In order to stay in the market, they have developed many different heatpipe designs. Some of those designs may have considerable value. But again -- the information you're looking for would be one number: (T[load] - T[idle]) / TDP

With T in Celsius and "thermal design power" in watts. AMD doesn't call it TDP, but they do provide a number for the maximum heat-leakage expected from any given model of their processors.
 

Cerb

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Thermaltake does not seem to want a good review of it done, but it appears to do quite well, even so. However, the clip design sucks. Even with desktop A64s having IHSs, it's a poor way to do it. The torque is worrisome, without better mounting. The other coolers appear to perform fairly well absolutely, but not by weight. Thermalright and Zalman's stuff is nice to work with, and spoils one fairly easily.